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[Vivax]

Like, your only scumread all game is because someone posted a votecount three times at the bottom of a page and you have no intention of putting in work to move away from that opinion.

YOU GUYS AREN'T GIVING ME THE OPTION TO ACTUALLY PLAY THIS FREAKING GAME

Wrong, you could join the push on Owen, Prince or Crescent, though I haven't called the latter mafia.
Y'know, those who look like they're shielding you.

[Enchant]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

wow so scummy die

[Enchant]

VOTE: AnduntiVOTE: AnduntiVOTE: AnduntiVOTE: AnduntiVOTE: AnduntiVOTE: AnduntiVOTE: Andunti

[Crescent]

and like, no one else has a major issue with how Fred started off with THREE BACK TO BACK VCs like, hello?? how is no one else seeing this as Fred is spamming just to spam?

To be frank my issue with Fred is more how awful his shade on Owen looked. The early fakespew is kinda whatever at this point. He mostly stopped after getting yelled at.

[Andante]

and when the only other thing I see is bugspray "DUEL!!!" "CHESS!" It's just like, I look at it and go, ok, guess yall are still doing RVS, I hate RVS, I'm not participating. Like yeah I Town lean crescent. scum lean malcolm, but that's it. no one else is doing anything related to the game. malcolm has the scum lean cause ALL HE IS DOING IS TUNNELING ME.

[MalcolmTucker]

So if I vote people cause I find what they're doing highly annoying. that automatically makes me scum? I'm not SRing whoever. I'm saying Fred isn't doing ANYTHING game related and talking in this matter of fact tone, it's annoying as heck, yet I guess all yall are totally fine with fred??

By voting someone because you find them annoying, you base an entire case around your vote basically being based on frustration, which stops us on from moving onto fresh ideas/thoughts. I'm finding that more suspicious than the initial annoyance itself.

Like, if a reasonably high post count and little to show for it is a good reason to vote for Fred, I fail to see why the same doesn't apply to you.

Do you have any thoughts/views not related to players currently annoying you?

[Andante]

whatever, vote me out. not like I care

[MalcolmTucker]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

[Andante]

I seem to be like the only one here wanting to play the game (a few others too, but majority doesn't want to do anything) so you know what, if voting me is the solution... go for it. I'm stepping away, and hopefully I'm not voted out by the time I'm back, but if I am? whatever

[Andante]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?

[Crescent]

I seem to be like the only one here wanting to play the game (a few others too, but majority doesn't want to do anything) so you know what, if voting me is the solution... go for it. I'm stepping away, and hopefully I'm not voted out by the time I'm back, but if I am? whatever

I would agree with the sentiment that there's already been too much shitposting. The Chess stuff was particularly noxious and I'm glad that got curbed quickly.

[MalcolmTucker]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?

Do you expect to go through an entire game without any pressure being put on you at all? You're evading my question.

It's D1, this is an early read, more than happy to move elsewhere if someone else strikes me as more scummy down the line.

[Andante]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?

Do you expect to go through an entire game without any pressure being put on you at all? You're evading my question.

It's D1, this is an early read, more than happy to move elsewhere if someone else strikes me as more scummy down the line.

So because I'm the only one actually doing crap, and calling stuff as it is, that means we have to "pressure" me??? what kind of logic is this? why not actually try and engage in a freaking conversation with me instead of "WEAK PUSH. ANDANTE MAF" whatever

[geraintm]

The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.

im voting fred, do i not get a read too?

[Vivax]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?

Do you expect to go through an entire game without any pressure being put on you at all? You're evading my question.

It's D1, this is an early read, more than happy to move elsewhere if someone else strikes me as more scummy down the line.

So because I'm the only one actually doing crap, and calling stuff as it is, that means we have to "pressure" me??? what kind of logic is this? why not actually try and engage in a freaking conversation with me instead of "WEAK PUSH. ANDANTE MAF" whatever

There's a ton of scummy people but what we got instead.
A circus of four power rangers with you in the middle showed up and tried to get a huge wagon going at the same time on.
Someone who is actually playing this game and spammed VCs for reactions which was the bone he threw you and you gladly bit.

[Vivax]

The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.

im voting fred, do i not get a read too?

Pinhead

[Crescent]

The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.

im voting fred, do i not get a read too?

They were specifically pointing at the 4 people in that cluster, and you weren't in that cluster. Gonna be honest, I kinda totally forgot about you. I wouldn't say you've done anything to ping me in any specific way yet. Your vote's probably in a good place though.

Anyways, watching Andante emotionally implode as she's pressured for awful reasons feels like I'm looking in a mirror to when I'm under consistent pressure for awful reasons. It's like a "So this is what it looks like when I get emotional in a mafia game" moment.

Gut says she's a VT.

[Vivax]

The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.

im voting fred, do i not get a read too?

They were specifically pointing at the 4 people in that cluster, and you weren't in that cluster. Gonna be honest, I kinda totally forgot about you. I wouldn't say you've done anything to ping me in any specific way yet. Your vote's probably in a good place though.

Anyways, watching Andante emotionally implode as she's pressured for awful reasons feels like I'm looking in a mirror to when I'm under consistent pressure for awful reasons. It's like a "So this is what it looks like when I get emotional in a mafia game" moment.

Gut says she's a VT.

Thanks, gut. What are Owen, Prince and geraintm?
Here's a new avatar for you:

[Crescent]

Prince is probably town regardless of Fred's alignment.

Owen and Gera are probably town if Fred is scum. My intel so far on Gera is he doesn't bus, though his ISO is... Super lacking. I'd look at Gera if Fred is town, though. Owen is on pace to do way more here than he did in 2273.

I'm seeing so much of myself in her and the way you especially are treating her right now that I'm being psychologically triggered by it.

[Vivax]

I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance

Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?

have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?

Quoting GLaDOS, someone I truly look up to:

"Did you know that people with guilty consciences are more easily startled by loud noise--

[train horn]

I'm sorry, I don't know why that went off. Anyway, just an interesting science fact."

The sound version is worth looking up.

[Vivax]

Prince is probably town regardless of Fred's alignment.

Owen and Gera are probably town if Fred is scum. My intel so far on Gera is he doesn't bus, though his ISO is... Super lacking. I'd look at Gera if Fred is town, though. Owen is on pace to do way more here than he did in 2273.

I'm seeing so much of myself in her and the way you especially are treating her right now that I'm being psychologically triggered by it.

The point of the game is to find people who play like a team and elim them.
That you are actively working to only elim outside of your team, and that goes for all of you on that flashwagon, makes all of you look worse.

If any of you feel triggered, I suggest taking a break, and coming back not just looking at the front pages.
Andante can deflect her elim by finding a townie to compromise with on someone that isn't her. And that someone should preferrably be one on the power rangers squad.

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