Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: BBT

Lowell I’m spinning out, yes. But honest question - do you still scumread the Kenny slot? I felt confident it was Kenny and now I don’t and I feel lost. My current best guess is BBT who, when he couldn’t get the Kenny miselim anymore, started “sorting”

[Confidently Wrong]

Why does Lowell just overrule his team in terms of having to kill the person who is scum reading him. Instead of say the person who was scum reading Loft who was in a much more dangerous position of potentially being elimmed on D2.

Then, not only does he get his kill, he then starts to bus his buddy for absolutely no reason. In what world does scum!Lowell think he can get to end game here?

I think its as simple as that Lowell was designated to endgame and was in the process of bussing Loftwing and loftwing was considered a lost cause at that point.

[Irrelephant11]

If I’m scum here I let the PoE play out, I would win

[Confidently Wrong]

If I’m scum here I let the PoE play out, I would win

ur literally spewed off shoshin/loft, anyone scumreading your slot is just reaching really hard or scum(or rather both)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: BBT

Lowell I’m spinning out, yes. But honest question - do you still scumread the Kenny slot? I felt confident it was Kenny and now I don’t and I feel lost. My current best guess is BBT who, when he couldn’t get the Kenny miselim anymore, started “sorting”

What are you doing?

[Confidently Wrong]

That is to say, I may look like I am just tunneling Lowell here, but there have been moments where i have reexamined things and built upon existing arguments or scrapped old arguments and built up new ones based on new evidence. Here is where I am at now;

Enchant
Irrelephant
Eira(if vig, if not vig moves down below BBT)
BBT
MalcomTucker
Dunnstall
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Lowell

malcom prob should be higher but recency bias

actually im fucking stupid and Eira is obviously at the very top if vig bc vig is a clear role lol but i consider the top 3 essentially cleared town so thats why i didnt put them there bc the top 2's dayplay is significantly better. regardless its like from malcom down are people who i dont think are explicitly spewed town but are very close to it and have shown towniness. above the lowell line

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: BBT

Lowell I’m spinning out, yes. But honest question - do you still scumread the Kenny slot? I felt confident it was Kenny and now I don’t and I feel lost. My current best guess is BBT who, when he couldn’t get the Kenny miselim anymore, started “sorting”

What are you doing?

Spinning out

[Enchant]

Why Eira-Vig is less town than Ireelephant

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can you stop it?

[Lowell]

VOTE: BBT

Lowell I’m spinning out, yes. But honest question - do you still scumread the Kenny slot? I felt confident it was Kenny and now I don’t and I feel lost. My current best guess is BBT who, when he couldn’t get the Kenny miselim anymore, started “sorting”

By process of elimination more than anything, but yes. Fancy town for claim, eira for the way D1 played out, and you for various townish pushes at various times.

I’m mostly town reading bbt based on tone, and now slightly leaving town on CW as I’m selling myself on him just being a tunneling weirdo rather than setting up a scum endgame.

[Lowell]

Oh and Malcolm. Can’t remember why but mostly town reading him as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hi Lowell, can you look at 1803 and talk to me about what happened in those two posts?

Also, when did I become town and when did Malcolm become town?

[Lowell]

Lowell, 1803 if you could please

I’m on my phone not going to read back, but if I recall this was me misremembering the order of D1 wagons. Thought originally that Kenny slot emerged as counter to loft but was actually eira. Hence eira getting the towncred.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah but you said to switch their places and one was town and one was null.

So why were you voting a null read over 3 scum reads?

[Lowell]

Hi Lowell, can you look at 1803 and talk to me about what happened in those two posts?

Also, when did I become town and when did Malcolm become town?

Town is strong. Let’s just say less suspect than Kenny. Neither of you are in the “I’d be shocked if they flipped scum” category of fancy, eira, or irrel. And I don’t remember a specific moment for either of you, just that you’re less on my radar.

Again, if it’s really important that we do all this I can, but likely not in painstaking detail today.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It kind of is because you were scum reading me at end of D1 and nothing really happened D2 that should have changed that

[Lowell]

Yeah but you said to switch their places and one was town and one was null.

So why were you voting a null read over 3 scum reads?

Because everyone was saying Kenny and I’m not really interested in making a different case. Happy to vote elsewhere, I’m not dying on any of these hills. Tunneling is why we’re a cluster right now, I’m always fine making a good vote rather than a perfect one, especially if folks I townread are pushing it.

[Lowell]

It kind of is because you were scum reading me at end of D1 and nothing really happened D2 that should have changed that

Happy to vote you if it comes to it. Kenny and his replacement have both continued to look bad whereas your interventions today have been marginally better.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You'll pretty much vote anyone if there is a consensus.

That's what am getting.

[Lowell]

Anyone but fancy, eira, and irrel, you mean?

Honestly? Probably. There’s one scum left, I’m not that worried about being taken for a ride if other townies are on it.

[Lowell]

If your next point is “well if everyone were like you and just sheeping wouldn’t we be SOL”? Also, probably yes, but that’s not a problem this bunch has.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I see.

So if we all shut up, you'll provide something? As opposed to coasting?

[Lowell]

Outmaneuvered again. Touché bbt. Haha

[Lowell]

But just to be clear, so far my “coasting” could better be described as “being mostly right about things and productively finding scum while not burying everyone in text walls”

[BlueBloodedToffee]

And just to be clear...

The last scum is... Because....