Mystery Mafia 2- Game Over! But who won!?


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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:31 am

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Lawrencelot 4 (Korts, Forbiddanlight, Elvis Knits, Surye)

Not Voting: Korlash, Lawrencelot, Killa Seven, Landlord

With 8 alive, 5 votes will lynch.

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Survived to the end and won - 11
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winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:37 am

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Wow... L-1 within a day...

Are we actually ready to lynch that fast? Is there nothing to talk about today Not even going to let him speak?
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:40 am

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I'm actually completely sure Lawrence is scum atm.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:48 am

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I'd like more input from surye and K7 because I feel like they're the new people who have talked the least. But I really don't want to encourage us to slow down the lynch since we've failed to lynch twice now because of people being slow.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:56 am

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Guess what, I was roleblocked tonight lol. I chose to copyblock elvis_knits. I don't know if that says anything about her alignment though. Before anyone hammers, please be
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that the WHOLE town, or at least a majority, has the same second lynch in mind.

In case this is my last post, I'll share some of my thoughts, but only on the newer players as the others are more a matter of nightkill and set-up analysis, and I suck at that.
Surye: not really liking his logic, but that might be because I'm the victim of it. He could post a bit more. 60% scum
Korlash: active, not small posts, and i really feel he's helping the town. 70% scum
killa seven: needs to be prodded or replaced
Korts: seems a bit scummy to me, I especially don't like his 7th post, it seemed a lie to me when he said bionic's kill fits my profile. Less scummy than Surye though: 50% scum

About who's the killer: I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as we thought. I can think of an endless amount of possibilities, one that's just popped up is: maybe there is a role that had a power that prevented the kill, before that player officially joined the game. Who knows what BM came up with. Then we have Landlord, who also could be a doc or something (not that likely though). Or it was forbiddan, or scum indeed did not send in a kill. It's a shame that I'm the victim of this, with this cool role, but I understand that I am the most likely solution to the problem and I accept my fate. Now give me some copycat food.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:56 am

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EBWOP: Korlash should be 70% town, not scum
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:58 am

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Were you actually told "You have been RBed"?
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:01 am

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Lawrence: is there some part of your role that you haven't yet told us?
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:02 am

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Korlash wrote:Were you actually told "You have been RBed"?
I assume choosing who to aim his copy at seems to require being told.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:10 am

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Yes but seeing as how me voting him depends on his answer I don't want to leave it to "assume".
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:13 am

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Ok, that's reasonable.
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:21 am

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K, well, if we are doing a secondary lynch, I wouldn't mind using it on
Landlord
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:49 am

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I still don't think landlord is a player.

Do you guys want me to roleclaim today?
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:53 am

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I still don't think landlord is a player.
Which is why I think he's a good choice.

Do you guys want me to roleclaim today?
Why?
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:56 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:
I still don't think landlord is a player.
Which is why I think he's a good choice.
In the event lawrence is not scum and landlord is not a player, lawrence would waste his kill.

Do you guys want me to roleclaim today?
Why?
Because landlord says he copied me last night. I know he says he was RB'd though.
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:58 am

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In the event lawrence is not scum and landlord is not a player, lawrence would waste his kill.
I don't think lawrence is not scum, and I don't get a scummy vibe from anyone really.

Because landlord says he copied me last night. I know he says he was RB'd though.
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:03 am

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Re: new players, I'm not having much of a read on them. Surye or K7 would be good kills though since they aren't trying very hard.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:05 am

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K7 is always a good kill. But also, there's the fact landlord makes things a lot harder for town to lynch. He never stays on a lynching wagon. IF law is town (big if), a landlord kill would enable town to actually only need a regular majority to lynch, and this probably help end this strain of no lynches.
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:15 am

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I really don't think it's landlord's fault we keep no-lynching.
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:16 am

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I think if lawrence is telling the truth Landlord or K7 would be the best kill. Which means probably K7 if we want to have th best chance at hitting scum, and Landlord if we just want to get rid of him.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:16 am

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I don't understand the possible motivation of you roleclaiming, elvis, since, considering the fact that from the time you joined, stabbing has been the prominent MO for the single kill, and that kill wasn't blocked last night, you aren't likely to have tried to hurt the town if roleblocked.

If Lawrence turns up town (not happening IMO) he can shoot Landlord, and we can dispose of the liability of whether he's a real player (I think he actually is a player, considering he can vote, but his contribution in that case has even been sub-k7).
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:19 am

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So, if lawrence was roleblocked, does that mean the roleblock could have come from him copying me and I was roleblocked?
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:22 am

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Were you roleblocked, then?
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:26 am

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I really don't think it's landlord's fault we keep no-lynching.
Not ALL his fault, but a contributor.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:01 pm

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Korts wrote:I don't understand the possible motivation of you roleclaiming, elvis, since, considering the fact that from the time you joined, stabbing has been the prominent MO for the single kill, and that kill wasn't blocked last night, you aren't likely to have tried to hurt the town if roleblocked.
seeing as how this is out now heres what I have...

lawrence claims to have been RBed, doesn't that then mean his "copy" ability would have been blocked as well? If so, why even bother to have him target anyone as it wouldn't work anyways? Why even tell him? If his power says "You will be told" but it was blocked, then he shouldn't have been told.

Secondly, if he was blocked AND made Elvis be blocked as well, the who stabbed? I highly doubt forbbidan and so it leaves me with no one, unless the theory of a new stabber is true. And if that's the case, then BM quickly ran out of killing methods... highly unlikely.
Elvis wrote:So, if lawrence was roleblocked, does that mean the roleblock could have come from him copying me and I was roleblocked?
Do you have evidence you weren't roleblocked? If not, no need to say anything.
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