Lynching someone let's scum make a nightkill. Don't vote.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:move: d4
vote: Gorrad
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Maybe this is a ridiculous suggestion, but wouldn't d3 do more to free the bishop? Also, it takes one more center square to control. But maybe that's just me looking only at the short term?
I'm not seeing where Nd4 would go afterward, and it doesn't do anything to control the center. d4 is obviously a worthy alternative but it would block the knight and somewhat stop the bishop's movement I think.
A big downside of d3 may be that it blocks the queen, but weren't we planning to move her ahead anyway. In fact, did anyone even consider Qe3 for this turn?
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. Nd4
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Here's the 2 candidate moves. I'm actually rather underwhelmed by the original d4. It does stuff, but doesn't force black to play on our terms. Nd4 gives black a even more slack since we still can't move our king too well in the moves following and leaves us open to a check from h4 (once the pin is removed).
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. b3
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I took a look at b3, and the potential there is quite attractive. It opens up our bishop which we've been aching to free up. The bishop will be attacking from it's first move out too. Locking the pawns on the b-file will close the game stage to the center, where we are holding dominance.
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Ah yes, b3 is a very good idea too, but what does it do that d3 doesn't? d3 gives us more control of the center and opens up our bishop just as well.
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d3
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Ah. I see it now. Bd2 would be no good, it would only threaten a double pawn. So yeah, d3 is no good, sorry for suggesting it. Let's try Qe3.
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. Qe3
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The queen will take total command of the center, but she is a bit vulnerable there. I am thinking b3 is the best move for now, but we should start looking at letting our queen advance Qe3 in the near future. I'm not sure if O-O-O (or however the move that makes the king go to b1 and the rook to c1 is noted) will help us a lot, but it's an option as well.-
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...Gods I'm stupid. We don't even need to move the pawn! I was doing an unneeded setup toUnmove, Move: Qe5. I don't know why I wanted the pawn there. It made sense at the time.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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The end of day nine votecount.
Moves
d4 (5) - Pesco47, Lawrencelot, Goatrevolt, SensFan, The Central Scrutinizer
h4 (1) - Gorrad
Nd4 (1) - Indigo Heron
Not voting (9) - sirdanilot, Doomsday,
Players
Gorrad (1) - The Central Scrutinizer
Not voting (8) - SensFan, Goatrevolt, Lawrencelot, sirdanilot, Indigo Heron, Gorrad, Doomsday, Pesco47
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1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4
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I have problems with both of these plans, but I have even more of a problem with Qc4 than with Ng5. Playing Qc4 is essentially either throwing our queen away or wasting multiple moves.
I will post more extensively on this later. I want to put a lot of thought into this move, so I think I should post in my other games first."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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We should CERTAINLY not move our queen from the current spot. By moving the queen, we garuntee the unpin you claim to be trying to avoid. Not to mention that a castle would be far from impenetrable at this point and that our queen would be undefended if we allow it to, as you say, "run riot".I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Does anyone else see thatmove: g3looks very strong.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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That's absolutely terrible. g3 liberates the Bishop tremendously, while h3, g4, hampers it.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Apparently, our playing styles are very different.Gorrad wrote:We should CERTAINLY not move our queen from the current spot. By moving the queen, we garuntee the unpin you claim to be trying to avoid. Not to mention that a castle would be far from impenetrable at this point and that our queen would be undefended if we allow it to, as you say, "run riot".最愛心。。。-
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I assume you strongly undervalue how much of a boost it is to win a pawn...Gorrad wrote:Liberates it to do what? Take a pawn with no follow-up? I prefer threatening the knight.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I still think Ng5 is best, although admittedly I did not think about castling. But if they castle there's a good follow-up. Here's what Ng5 does, I probably miss some moves black could do:
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2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
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We hit their knight, and if they hit our knight back we hit the pawn and there's still a pin.
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2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
10. Ng5 O-O*/chess tag removed*
We can play Qc4+ here, and our bishop is free to move and we can attack whatever we want, like the f5 pawn or their queen/rook with our horse. Or set up an attack on h7.
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