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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:10 pm

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In post 2672, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2669, Nero Cain wrote:its d2.......and its been less than 24 hours...
I meant the football game my guy.
makes more sense. Diggs got me 22.20 fantasy points.
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:11 pm

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You do not understand the town motivation behind me asking you to explain a scum read which I, during my catchup had this to say about
I just want to say I am extremely not understanding the dann scum reads. It feels like a whole bunch of people just simultaneously said “DEEP WOLF” in one voice and then all of a sudden it became common wisdom somehow. It’s possible I’m missing something in the skim but I thought his entrance was fine and I think the slot he replaced was non-existent (and I do not think, as someone who has modded a fuck ton of games, that replacement is at all +scum equity
Are you joking? You're asserting that a player is trying to lurk out the pressure without ever explaining why there ought to be pressure in the first place. This is important for me sorting both dannflor AND you.

Like what? Are you serious?
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:12 pm

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In post 2670, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2665, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2660, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2641, Thestatusquo wrote:My understanding is that it's a pain in the ass to do.
Why not just create a new account and ask for it to be made your new main?
Why are you talking about this instead of literally anything else
Because I don’t see much else worth poking rn
You didn’t respond to my comment to you before, I noted
You're right, because I didnt really know how to respond to you dismissing my points like that and I figured we'd get to it later.
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13 pm

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In post 2673, Nero Cain wrote:all my scumreads keep pushing each other...
I’m not pushing anybody
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13 pm

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In post 2678, DeasVail wrote:
In post 2673, Nero Cain wrote:all my scumreads keep pushing each other...
I’m not pushing anybody
prob why you are scum. :lol:
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14 pm

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In post 2674, scamper wrote:
In post 2662, Thestatusquo wrote:Because I am unsure.
i'm not sure why u want my opinion on it? i dont think the stuff u pointed out about her doing is particularly scummy, it reads like very minor things to me and she did a lot of odd fluff posting stuff in her last game as town too. i had her as town on day 1 and havent had reason to re-evaluate most of my reads yet.
Because I want peoples opinions on everything and that happened to be what had just come up?
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14 pm

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is a scum AI response because I asked Shea to redirect the conversation in real time and Shea repeated the old question in order to stall for more time.
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:15 pm

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In post 2677, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2670, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2665, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2660, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2641, Thestatusquo wrote:My understanding is that it's a pain in the ass to do.
Why not just create a new account and ask for it to be made your new main?
Why are you talking about this instead of literally anything else
Because I don’t see much else worth poking rn
You didn’t respond to my comment to you before, I noted
You're right, because I didnt really know how to respond to you dismissing my points like that and I figured we'd get to it later.
It’s a point others have made and I’ve acknowledged already. You trying to dig it back up gives bad vibes.
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:17 pm

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In post 2633, fireisredsir wrote:ok baltar iso thoughts:
- maybe the easiest take here, but i don't think his interaction with datisi felt like partners to me? he felt a little like... worried. like he was kinda poking from a distance out of a sense of obligation but not really fully engaging. it didn't feel like they were on the same page or matching each other's energy
- irrel slot is believable as a partner here. nothing too bad tho
- same goes for firebringer slot
- i don't really see the marci read as clearing @scamper?
- the GL thing ehh i kinda am leaning town GL now, don't find the S/S take as compelling as i did originally
- i kinda get the feeling the way he interacted with the major wagons of the day means that one of them was on scum but im not really sure which. v helpful i know. he just felt slightly uncomfortable at times later in the day when he was sorting out which direction to go, like he needed to do some sort of action beyond what he would normally just do to get townread
I hard agree with Datisi town yeah

Leaning town on GL too because it felt like he was trying to stir up suspicion on GL by piggy-backing on my (likely incorrect) read.
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:20 pm

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In post 2678, DeasVail wrote:
In post 2673, Nero Cain wrote:all my scumreads keep pushing each other...
I’m not pushing anybody
although...you started off the game by pushing town (me) and then you pushed GL (town?) you wound up voting conman (town) the only other vote in between was on Gamma. Just in general I feel like your "scumhunting" has been very limited and safe.

your 3 scumreads yesterday were gamma, con, and marci. So why aren't you pushing Gamma or Mari?
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:21 pm

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In post 2683, DeasVail wrote:I hard agree with Datisi town yeah
why hard agree
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:22 pm

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I think I'm somewhere around here.

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Ordered into tiers and then tiers ordered by townieness. The people in the 2nd to bottom tier are mostly people who I want to poke more because I have not decided they're town yet and the people in the third from the top tier are people who I think are mostly town but I'm not willing to bet on it.

I think I want to start by poking the firebringer slot.

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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:22 pm

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guys help i like shea lets not pressure him
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this clown has a gtkas unfortunately
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:23 pm

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In post 2499, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2495, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2486, GuiltyLion wrote:last thoughts before thread lock - I kinda like VPB's reply to me there? assuming Con is scum, I'm prob still SRing Fire and Dan, but VPB might be town and I might be snowed by a scum elsewhere
this is not the reaction i had, would be interested in more explanation of why you like it
I guess I am thinking scum!VPB knowing scum!CMM would be doing a bit more agenda/manuevering off this CMM flip

whereas I made the point in that it felt like his first jump from CMM->GL was directly in response to me fighting with him, rather than something he premeditated or planned

and then again here I thought he may have been trying to set me up to look bad on CMM by asking me about why I was finding him town, but then he kinda just dropped it and didn't express much explicit suspicion in .
ok so ive been thinking about this little interaction a good amount

and im p sure i now think GL is town off it

originally it set off alarm bells for me and just felt like a weird reaction to have. but the thing is, this was preflipping a scum CMM. CMM was town

and i think it's just really awkward to jump in with this kinda contrived townread on a partner that will immediately become moot once the flip comes through? i just have a hard time seeing scum GL do that
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:23 pm

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In post 2682, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2677, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2670, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2665, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2660, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2641, Thestatusquo wrote:My understanding is that it's a pain in the ass to do.
Why not just create a new account and ask for it to be made your new main?
Why are you talking about this instead of literally anything else
Because I don’t see much else worth poking rn
You didn’t respond to my comment to you before, I noted
You're right, because I didnt really know how to respond to you dismissing my points like that and I figured we'd get to it later.
It’s a point others have made and I’ve acknowledged already. You trying to dig it back up gives bad vibes.
I clearly don't find your "acknowledgement" compelling and today you don't seem particularly interested in finding scum either.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:23 pm

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shea is pushing gamma

gamma is pushing marci

marci is/was pushing gamma

you were pushing gamma/marci
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:24 pm

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like the way sheas doing his read on me its like
down up down

isnt scum usually more conscious of that type of shit
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this clown has a gtkas unfortunately
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:24 pm

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I think you're probably Town by the way monkey
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:24 pm

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In post 2690, Nero Cain wrote:shea is pushing gamma

gamma is pushing marci

marci is/was pushing gamma

you were pushing gamma/marci
i dont think gamma scum anymore ngl but i dont remember when i started thinking that
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:25 pm

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In post 2691, marcistar wrote:like the way sheas doing his read on me its like
down up down

isnt scum usually more conscious of that type of shit
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:26 pm

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What made you stop thinking Gamma was scum?
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:26 pm

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In post 2694, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2691, marcistar wrote:like the way sheas doing his read on me its like
down up down

isnt scum usually more conscious of that type of shit
Savage
I don't think this was an insult so much as it was an acknowledgement that my progression on her felt genuine? But maybe thats hard to see from the middle of a tunnel.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:27 pm

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But maybe I shouldn't expect too much from someone who "sees no motivation for a town player to ask them why they scum read someone"
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:33 pm

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In post 2681, Frogsterking wrote: is a scum AI response because I asked Shea to redirect the conversation in real time and Shea repeated the old question in order to stall for more time.
literally what?
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:35 pm

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In post 2685, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 2683, DeasVail wrote:I hard agree with Datisi town yeah
why hard agree
They would have been having a lot more fun with each other as scum imo

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