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[Dannflor]

I feel like the finding my suspicious due to the CSF was garbage personally.

why

[fireisredsir]

Trust: scamper, Ausuka,

Aristeia, xofelf

, ydrasse, fireisredsir,

marcistar

Middle ground: DeasVail, Firebringer,

Nero Cain

,

VP Baltar

, Dannflor, GuiltyLion, Irrelephant11
Distrust:

ConManMick

, Datisi,

humaneatingmonkey

, Frogsterking, obscure

is this 4 or 5 scum?
does Gamma put at least 1 buddy on each line? If yes who is the scum from the top line?

I'm tentatively onboard with a mena flip if his content is lacking. I still think GL/Relly slot is scummy lol

I'd say probably 1-1-1 or 0-2-1 or 0-1-2

probably not all 3 on one line lol

I think this is probably true, and we know its not 0-2-1.

So with the assumption that its probably not 0-0-3 that makes frogsterking unlikely.

also its not 0-0-3

it's 5 scum, so it's 1-1-2, 0-2-2, or 0-1-3

[Thestatusquo]

I feel like the finding my suspicious due to the CSF was garbage personally.

why

Because i think the literal exact opposite about every single part of it

[Thestatusquo]

Trust: scamper, Ausuka,

Aristeia, xofelf

, ydrasse, fireisredsir,

marcistar

Middle ground: DeasVail, Firebringer,

Nero Cain

,

VP Baltar

, Dannflor, GuiltyLion, Irrelephant11
Distrust:

ConManMick

, Datisi,

humaneatingmonkey

, Frogsterking, obscure

is this 4 or 5 scum?
does Gamma put at least 1 buddy on each line? If yes who is the scum from the top line?

I'm tentatively onboard with a mena flip if his content is lacking. I still think GL/Relly slot is scummy lol

I'd say probably 1-1-1 or 0-2-1 or 0-1-2

probably not all 3 on one line lol

I think this is probably true, and we know its not 0-2-1.

So with the assumption that its probably not 0-0-3 that makes frogsterking unlikely.

also its not 0-0-3

it's 5 scum, so it's 1-1-2, 0-2-2, or 0-1-3

This feels incredibly pedantic. I thought it was pretty obvious we were referring to the three remaining scum other than the ones flipped at the point of the post?

[fireisredsir]

no, dann wasn't, so i thought it was worth clarifying

his post was with the assumption of 4 scum

[Dannflor]

this is true

[Datisi]

feeling like garbage today, i'll be useful after i sleep

[T3]

VC 5.4
fireisredsir (3): Thestatusquo, Dannflor, Ausuka
Frogsterking (1): Frogsterking
Not voting (5): Datisi, Titus, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, DeasVail
Day 5 will end in (expired on 2022-10-19 11:56:00). With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

[DeasVail]

The more I read gammas iso the more I don't think fireisred makes a lot of sense with gamma buddy.

Or at the very least if they are buddies gamma played extremely different towards fireisred than she did with all her other buddies.

Are there any examples of why you think this?

The more I read gammas iso the more I don't think fireisred makes a lot of sense with gamma buddy.

Or at the very least if they are buddies gamma played extremely different towards fireisred than she did with all her other buddies.

Are there any examples of why you think this?

I already posted them.

Your post implied that there was more. “The more I read gammas iso” etc

[DeasVail]

Also I think I’m ready to vote fire? But that would be l-1 so if anyone has things they want to look at more let me know. I do see that Dann is planning to re-look at frog

[DeasVail]

Also shea is your uncertainty on fire enough to unvote or not really?

[Titus]

Trust: scamper, Ausuka, Aristeia, xofelf, ydrasse, fireisredsir, marcistar
Middle ground: DeasVail, Firebringer, Nero Cain, VP Baltar, Dannflor, GuiltyLion, Irrelephant11
Distrust: ConManMick, Datisi, humaneatingmonkey, Frogsterking, obscure

coming back to this though

I think in a list of 5 scum reads

Gamma always puts a buddy in there

ConManMick was town. Datisi is town or we are getting fucked by scamper + Datisi and that seems like an unlikely nightmare I don't want to contend with. HEM slot is basically confirmed town.

Ergo, *at least* one of Frogster or obscure is scum.

I doubt Gamma puts three scum in don't trust so Frogsterking should be town.

Probably a 1 1 split in the other two categories.

[Titus]

VC 1.9
Eiralox (4): humaneatingmonkey, fireisredsir, Irrelephant11, Gamma Emerald
Irrelephant11 (4): scamper, Datisi, Nero Cain, Aristeia
Firebringer (2): Ydrasse, VP Baltar
GuiltyLion (2): skitter30, DeasVail
VP Baltar (2): GuiltyLion, Ausuka
skitter30 (1): Firebringer
Not voting (5): ConManMick, marcistar, xofelf, Dunnstral, Eiralox

VC 1.10
Gamma Emerald (4): Irrelephant11, fireisredsir, Frogsterking, Nero Cain
GuiltyLion (3): skitter30, DeasVail, Dannflor
Dannflor (2): humaneatingmonkey, GuiltyLion
Irrelephant11 (2): Datisi, Aristeia
Firebringer (1): VP Baltar
VP Baltar (1): Ausuka
obscure (1): Firebringer
ConManMick (1): scamper
Aristeia (1): ConManMick
Frogsterking (1): Gamma Emerald
Not voting (3): marcistar, xofelf, Ydrasse

I need to see what happened here. Irrelephant11 might just need to be flipped, even if they're likely scum adjacent.

I don't like fire as scum anymore

[Titus]

Eiralox is only scum with Irrelephant11 most likely. I can't see Eiralox scum and Irrelephant11 town as that would mean scum overloaded on bussing with an available buddy.

[Titus]

VOTE: Dannfloor

I changed my mind.

[Datisi]

i'd love if you were explaining these thoughts as you have them, titus

mostly bc i cannot follow (eg. fire town dann scum)

[Dannflor]

no...

[Thestatusquo]

Also shea is your uncertainty on fire enough to unvote or not really?

I don't really have a better idea.

[Dannflor]

titus can you full claim

[Thestatusquo]

God i hate vca.

[DeasVail]

Also shea is your uncertainty on fire enough to unvote or not really?

I don't really have a better idea.

Fair

[GuiltyLion]

I dunno my heart is really not in fireisred, I think he's genuine and I think he's right about frog

it feels like a lot of stuff people are clearing Frog on amounts to singular Gamma posts and reasoning that "he wouldn't group his buddies this way" or something similar. And those types of points are far less substantial reason to think he's town than it's being credited. Whereas I feel fireisred has a lot more believable trajectories and doesn't feel like he's enacting an agenda with them. I know I've gotten pushback but it just feels bizarre to me that fireisred would write several posts of a giant ass solve & case on me (7651, 7652, 7653, and 7657) and then just immediately drop it when CSF gets CC'd. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I don't sense any kind of contingency plan for if CSF dies, I feel like actually fully reversing on his scumread on me when there was an unexpected buddy going down just isn't necessary and is kinda bad play when he's scum, it's ceding ground exactly when he needs ground. the biggest benefit would be if he did it with intent to exactly pocket me like this, but then I don't feel like he's appealing to me to save him now either

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Frogsterking

H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T

Rolling Mason is such a negative utility because it makes guys play like total brick heads

have fun winning D9 or whatever when you FINALLY kill all the scum

Thank goodness Menalque got fucking shot and Gamma exited so you guys stopped hard defending scum

Frog, have you ever self-voted as town before?

@Frog - This was a serious question, can you link me a time you've self-voted as town?

[GuiltyLion]

The responses to me in 8082 and 8083 actually give me the impression of real thought behind his read on me and I think that if scum-Frogster had successfully fabricated that sort of thought process, then he would have just come out with it straight away instead of the initial 8078

I think this is maybe the best point in Frog's defense, but I don't put a ton of stock into it because ultimately Frog is giving reasons for a townread in 8082 and 8083 and it's not always difficult to fake real-sounding thought processes for fictional townreads as scum, cause you know everybody's town

[GuiltyLion]

actually @Frog nvm I just went back and checked and I had forgotten you self-voted in KTANE. Which was maybe a slightly different situation since you knew you had just done an extremely anti-town play, but I guess does give a basic precedent to being willing to sac yourself under fire.

still, I'm having a hard time understanding why you had the reaction you did. Why did Datisi suspecting you cause you a reactive response like that?