hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.

[Titus]

Town gave up working around your spam. You won't give MariaR credit for the Pooky wagon, so we lose. You'll say Enchant whiteknighted me when he tried to get you to see reason. You'll say Toog lirking when VCA clears him.

You'll come up with something. You always do. It's never your fault.

[Titus]

Yesterday, Cape was FoSing everyone and their brother.

[Titus]

At least this time I won't have to post.

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

d5 final vote count.

Titus (4):

Lukewarm, MathBlade, Toogeloo, Enchant

Lukewarm (1):

Titus

not voting (2):

Cape90, MariaR

with 7 alive, it took 4 to blow someone up.

[schadd_]

Titus was made to explode! she was a

town 4-shot rolecop

!

night 5 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-11-13 15:06:01).

[schadd_]

Toogeloo has tragically been exploded in the night! they were a

vanilla townie

.

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 6.0 !

not voting (5):

Enchant, Lukewarm, Cape90, MathBlade, MariaR

with 5 alive, it takes 3 to blow someone up. day 6 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-11-24 15:41:45)

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[Cape90]

Alright so Titus flipped town huh? Still feel like she kinda played a bit suboptimally, like from her POV, one of Enchant/MathBlade is kind of just mafia unless the setup is completely broken, I am blaming schadd if so tbh. A lot of people that were not Enchant/MathBlade were playing scummy to be fair and to address the point that "oh cape pushed on so many people".
I think this narrative very clearly includes trying to pocket me like 3110 is so incredibly not w/w and honestly I feel like gunning for Luke's elim for these shitty comments about defending me. With Titus' flip, the agenda is real, Titus into me since Titus was easier to get MathBlade onto. Oh yes I do say comments 3143/3287/3308/3310.
I almost guarantee that Luke is just kind of doing this to win.
Oh and I also don't like Luke's treatment of the Malcolm slot, especially with the passive comment of 2996 which feels like something Luke said out loud like "if i was town i would have done this but loltown". I feel like if Luke were actually town here, he would be the person to plan out.
So who is Luke's partner?
Very clearly Enchant, duh. PEdit: was thinking this earlier on but idk now.
Why? 3112 enough said. At least the comment looks like some sort of gross TMI on Enchant. Enchant, if you are town, take note.
I would also like to highlight 1633 when it comes to StD/Pooky.
Oooh oooh how about StD's comment about how StD didn't know where BCG went in the middle of 1487.
Also gonna take up a bet that 857 contains like 4/4 town.
Something tells me StD/Maria aren't w/w. Supported by Lukewarm tbh. Though Toog would be something given Luke's longer post involving Toog.
Oh and Lukewarm/StD are confirmed vanilla.

You see Titus, you don't just tell and not show. Which was your problem tbh with a lot of your solving. AKA wish more of your posts were like the post you made looking back at Frogsterking's POE. I suppose I have taken a lot of pot shots too but I wasn't too near elim territory.

Enchant has made not just 1 bad hammer, but now add a second bad hammer to their name, hip hip horray! 2679 :vomits:. And Titus is the person you hammer?
2923 sounds like a "wolf snickering with wolf" type joke. Next post Enchant hammers Malcolm and tells PRs what to do.
Okay to get out of my confbias circle, 3010 and 3057 seem very towny actually. Now the question is, is the setup really this abnormal? Fuck me dude.
I kind of get the feeling Enchant is squeaky clean after looking (minus the little stuff I just pointed out). I could see 3349 as possibly something. Bleh, I feel better thinking the Luke slot is scum.

Toogeloo/Pooky almost seem like too obvious to be w/w. Which makes them w/w right?
Toog seems AWFULLY sure I ain't it.
I honestly have 0 clue what 3350 is supposed to mean? Perspective slip? They call Titus a scary threat but mafia killed Frogsterking because Frog had "influence" over Titus. Is this implying that Titus is town with no influence?
Pooky explains his townread of me based on 3300 and 3302 via interactions day 1 with BCG.
3096 is definitely interesting since to me Titus was the only other person besides myself to try to get pressure off the Johnny slot on his elimination day, so the theory that "Running theory is that Johnny is being cut loose by the scum team" is contradicted by the actions Titus did that same day.
Oh but Cape, what about the day 3 wagon? Toog really didn't think it was MT so Toog went Lukewarm which looks so not w/w right?
As I have stated. Wolves like to spread out their votes. Therefore I am supported. 1 scum malcolm, 1 scum luke, 1 scum enchant? Looks about normal to me.
Also look at 2479/2788/2789/2804/2886 on BCG. It it really overexplain-y I think.
I guess the smarminess is something to consider with Toog and their Pooky push and calling MathBlade's plan anti-town.

I think MariaR doesn't look partnered with the other 2 town and is probably the towniest of the town. I have already explained my distrustfall with Maria, but I also feel like those arguments are weaker then some others provided.
Okay but from his end, he is kind of partnered with Lukewarm.
2165 might just be an attempt to shove MathBlade under the bus tbh whenever Pooky flips as if Maria was perhaps prepping for it like it was Doomsday.
Pooky push does look maybe less like a bus.
1545 is weird on StD. Does that sort of talk out loud thing I don't like when it comes to voting people without voting people.

Fully expecting MathBlade to go 6 feet under tonight so.
But if Math doesn't he has just powerwolfed this whole time and will probably win, gg.

It's not good when both the PR claims are the ones I find most towny, because mech-wise, 1 of them should absolutely be scum.

I think I want to vote Luke out and just sort the rest.

[Cape90]

GDI Math it is you. Somehow

[Cape90]

Welp, I ain't pushing there

[Cape90]

I felt like voting first, but with Toog death I am inno child

Someone cross

[Cape90]

Sorry wrong words, i mean.

I don't think talking about these conclusions makes sense now, before we look at flip of Johhnny. I believe regardless what flip, we can realise what happens and make right choice, right now is kinda useless talk.

I would more likely to ask Marci about mind, because Marci will die like 99% and then move on, unless you have really strong reasoning why we should't go Johhnny.

And that’s what I am saying too.

Titus continues to push me to demand a Luke scumread now.

Which since we are elimming Johnny there’s like no reason to try to hero solve.

I can analyze based on how Johnny flips.

Notice how math calls out Titus for trying to hero solve on Johnny day but doesn't call me out when I literally pushed on Titus Johnny day

Curious

[Enchant]

I thought i was wrong.

But i was right.

But then i made self wrong.

[Cape90]

Let's start baby steps. Do you between 1-3 town reads?

Yep
Not Mafia => Town or neutralized SK (if two town deaths kill with all haste)
Cape90 => Since town nor scum visited I am okay calling Cape Town for now
You => Since Frogger flipped town my you traitor + Frog scum theory is invalid and you’re posting.

Even though this is 3 for 3, this seems like a dogwater reason for townreading me

[Cape90]

I don’t scumread Luke.

VOTE: Marci

Really feeling this instead.

So uh

I think it's Luke/Math actually

I solved the game

A bit late

Obviously Luke and Math killed Toog to make eliminating me easier. It won't be that easy ubnfortunately

Go cry in wolf chat now

[Cape90]

Okay but scumreading MathBlade does come with the territory of MathBlade bussing BCG mega early and confidently

[Cape90]

a charloux mafia flip would have cleared me like 10 years ago :shrug:. It would have been more clearing for NM technically but they got cleared by themselves and are dead

[Cape90]

Charloux would have also have had to have voted Crescent/BCG/Johnny early in the game as well. Funnily enough

[Cape90]

Charloux looks more town then MathBlade somehow so I am less sure there

[Lukewarm]

I'm gonna look through Toog's iso, Cape I see that you are super gung ho about me being scum, but I am town and this is Elo, so if you are town maybe hold for a bit.

[Enchant]

VOTE: MathBlade

I gived it enough thought, and my decision is final.

[Cape90]

I'm gonna look through Toog's iso, Cape I see that you are super gung ho about me being scum, but I am town and this is Elo, so if you are town maybe hold for a bit.

It's fine because it looks like we are solving between the claims first unless literally none of the PR claims are mafia

[Enchant]

I'm gonna look through Toog's iso, Cape I see that you are super gung ho about me being scum, but I am town and this is Elo, so if you are town maybe hold for a bit.

It's fine because it looks like we are solving between the claims first unless literally none of the PR claims are mafia

Do Maria and Luke look like team?

[Lukewarm]

Cape is damn near locktown from my PoV. MalcolmTucker was too, and I hate that I didn't push against that harder. Cape isn't in my PoE, and the only way he gets Elimmed is if I get Night Killed.

But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

I don't think that Cape kills Toog here. Toog has cape lock towned and even suspected Titus for suspecting Cape. Toog was exactly who scum!Cape would want to take into ELo I think.

I think I might be wrong on Maria. I am now leaning Titus + Enchant after BCG's iso followed by the events of Day 4.

UNVOTE:

This is the last time that Toog mentioned Enchant, as part of his solve. Enchant has been fairly widely town read up until now, so he could see Toog as a threat.

I'm supporting MariaR elim.

VOTE: MariaR

I'm dying in this hill.

Toog was fairly strong on his Maria scum read for quite a while, although he did start to relent when he transitioned into that Titus+Enchant solve. With Titus's flip, it is fairly reasonable to think he might turn back on Maria.

I think the following players are for sure town...
NM
MT
Cape

Mostly ok with the following players...
Math (with some reservation)*
Marci

Last time Toog made a read statement about math, and that means that cape+math were toog's only two living town reads left from this list.

Cape and Math should not see Toog as a threat, Maria and Enchant could.

One of the former + one of the later might still kill toog to sure up the later. Definitely not cape+math tho.

Possible scum teams:

Cape+Math

Cape+Enchant
Cape+Maria
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Cape + anyone feels less likely too, just because Cape would probably feel decent to end game with toog alive given the strength of his read. Like, even if their partner went down cape could arguably win a 3p Elo with Cape+Toog+1, either with toog leading into a cross with the other, or toog choosing cape if cape is crossed with the +1

Cape+Enchant
Cape+Maria

Math on the other hand might be concerned about answering why he is still alive at 3p, and thinks he needs to win now.


So, I am left at
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Need to find 1 town in here.

Pedit: Enchant, why are you fucking voting already in Elo?

[Lukewarm]

Pedit: Enchant, why are you fucking voting already in Elo?