Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I think that the town prs maybe aren't massively powerful/can be messed with. I also still don't 100% understand this attuned thing, but having 'burn' instead of kill, and rr's role if he's being truthful, does suggest that their could be more than one factional ability,which i'd decided earlier probably wasn't true and that Mmr just used their factional ability on drapion.

Ugh.

B x

I did kinda agree with toog, t bone hasn't claimed anything afaik, whereas lots of people have claimed or softed...

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm willing to leave rat alone today because I believe t-bone is town and telling the truth.

What rat said about the burn being another factional ability in addition to the kill could make sense. In which case i think there is a good chance scum tried to kill mastina last night

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I especially find Enchant grating, but that quality of being obstinate favors a town who literally does not fucking care. It's not the same as scum pretending not to care, because it's extremely unfiltered.

Did you follow Not Quite Normal Multiball 2 at all? I'm not seeing very many differences between Enchant's play here and his play in this game (he was scum). Though anyone who was in that game I'd love another opinion on Enchant's play here.

I think he's doing more here than in nqn2, but I'm not sure he's actually outside his scumrange and there's been one or two things that's pinged me

[Radical Rat]

I’d like a list of everyone you claim you saved from burning please RR.

Can you elaborate why you are surprised by either of those choices?

Why would scum “burn” you over a cop or day vig?
Why would RR protect you over a cop or a day vig?

T-Bone was my only target, as this has been the first time I could act.

I did not target mastina/Meuh because I thought she had a decent chance of being Solar, and I'd rather have healed a townread, plus being a common scumread is usually decent protection already if I was wrong about her.

I did not even consider targeting you because you claimed to have been immune to burns, so why would I need to?

[MathBlade]

I’d like a list of everyone you claim you saved from burning please RR.

Can you elaborate why you are surprised by either of those choices?

Why would scum “burn” you over a cop or day vig?
Why would RR protect you over a cop or a day vig?

T-Bone was my only target, as this has been the first time I could act.

I did not target mastina/Meuh because I thought she had a decent chance of being Solar, and I'd rather have healed a townread, plus being a common scumread is usually decent protection already if I was wrong about her.

I did not even consider targeting you because you claimed to have been immune to burns, so why would I need to?

I did not claim immune

I said I personally do not burn

[Past Present Future]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

[Radical Rat]

I’d like a list of everyone you claim you saved from burning please RR.

Can you elaborate why you are surprised by either of those choices?

Why would scum “burn” you over a cop or day vig?
Why would RR protect you over a cop or a day vig?

T-Bone was my only target, as this has been the first time I could act.

I did not target mastina/Meuh because I thought she had a decent chance of being Solar, and I'd rather have healed a townread, plus being a common scumread is usually decent protection already if I was wrong about her.

I did not even consider targeting you because you claimed to have been immune to burns, so why would I need to?

I did not claim immune

I said I personally do not burn

I interpreted that as immunity, like you'd say asbestos doesn't burn.

[Past Present Future]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

I thought you wanted my thoughts on claims.

I'll shut up I guess.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

I’d like a list of everyone you claim you saved from burning please RR.

Can you elaborate why you are surprised by either of those choices?

Why would scum “burn” you over a cop or day vig?
Why would RR protect you over a cop or a day vig?

T-Bone was my only target, as this has been the first time I could act.

I did not target mastina/Meuh because I thought she had a decent chance of being Solar, and I'd rather have healed a townread, plus being a common scumread is usually decent protection already if I was wrong about her.

I did not even consider targeting you because you claimed to have been immune to burns, so why would I need to?

I did not claim immune

I said I personally do not burn

I interpreted that as immunity, like you'd say asbestos doesn't burn.

….

My dayvigs don’t burn

Says nothing about the human behind the dayvigging

[MathBlade]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

I thought you wanted my thoughts on claims.

I'll shut up I guess.

~Titus

I do.

That wasn’t input

That’s “wahhh I am in Math’s PoE for shooting” and not input

[T-Bone]

Can you elaborate why you are surprised by either of those choices?

Why would scum “burn” you over a cop or day vig?
Why would RR protect you over a cop or a day vig?

I'm asking Toog why they think this. Asking why unknown players would do something is a pretty unproductive response.

[Past Present Future]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

I thought you wanted my thoughts on claims.

I'll shut up I guess.

~Titus

I do.

That wasn’t input

That’s “wahhh I am in Math’s PoE for shooting” and not input

Ugh. This is why I feel you have it in for me. I view everything in a strategic lens. That's why my feedback as it is. Tbone's townreading us. He gets attacked. Makes sense. The only thing that doesn't is Meuh as that’s too much negative utility.

Meuh scarf and furtiveglance are where I'd look.

~Titus

[furtiveglance]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

[MathBlade]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

I thought you wanted my thoughts on claims.

I'll shut up I guess.

~Titus

I do.

That wasn’t input

That’s “wahhh I am in Math’s PoE for shooting” and not input

Ugh. This is why I feel you have it in for me. I view everything in a strategic lens. That's why my feedback as it is. Tbone's townreading us. He gets attacked. Makes sense. The only thing that doesn't is Meuh as that’s too much negative utility.

Meuh scarf and furtiveglance are where I'd look.

~Titus

Your feedback ignores a good chunk of the claims Eg RR TBone and CSF.

It doesn’t explain why you do and don’t want to look at those people related to mechanics

I am viewing things through a strategic lens as well but when most of your post is “but Math’s kill is wrong” when I haven’t typed it makes me think you aren’t being strategic and are Ateing

[Toogeloo]

To rephrase, I guess it wouldn't be improbable for any person on the player list to be target by scum for any reason, but from what I personally viewed yesterday, you did not make yourself a big target. So while I guess it it's possible to see you getting burned, I find it odd that not only did you get burned, but just so happened to be protected from the burn as well when there are definitely bigger persona's in the game.

RR, tell me your reads?

You said you didn't want to protect Math because you thought he was already, and you didn't want to protect Meuh/mastina because you think they are scum as well, but I don't remember you ever even talking about T-Bone, let alone town reading them. Why not the next more vocal players who shared your opinions, like unwnd or furtiveglance?

[MathBlade]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

For me it’s imho possible traitor crumbs and overall play

[furtiveglance]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

For me it’s imho possible traitor crumbs and overall play

My opening post was an obvious joke, Enchant and RR made similar posts. Overall play is obvious town, I opposed a vote on town and eventually voted out scum

[Past Present Future]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

Because Math's wrong vig is guaranteed not to hit scum. With mastina/CSF not clearing us, they get a free vig, keep attention on mastina/CSF and protect Scarf.

~Titus

Can you please let me ask questions? I am literally debating shooting someone else.

I thought you wanted my thoughts on claims.

I'll shut up I guess.

~Titus

I do.

That wasn’t input

That’s “wahhh I am in Math’s PoE for shooting” and not input

Ugh. This is why I feel you have it in for me. I view everything in a strategic lens. That's why my feedback as it is. Tbone's townreading us. He gets attacked. Makes sense. The only thing that doesn't is Meuh as that’s too much negative utility.

Meuh scarf and furtiveglance are where I'd look.

~Titus

Your feedback ignores a good chunk of the claims Eg RR TBone and CSF.

It doesn’t explain why you do and don’t want to look at those people related to mechanics

I am viewing things through a strategic lens as well but when most of your post is “but Math’s kill is wrong” when I haven’t typed it makes me think you aren’t being strategic and are Ateing

I addressed that I believe RR and Tbone by the fact I said Tbone getting harmed makes sense. I addressed CSF by stating mastina getting fucked with makes sense.

~Titus

[Past Present Future]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

For me it’s imho possible traitor crumbs and overall play

My opening post was an obvious joke, Enchant and RR made similar posts. Overall play is obvious town, I opposed a vote on town and eventually voted out scum

You're a weaker read due to popularity.

Scarfmanship is the play. I'd eat my hat if they're town

~Titus

[furtiveglance]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

For me it’s imho possible traitor crumbs and overall play

My opening post was an obvious joke, Enchant and RR made similar posts. Overall play is obvious town, I opposed a vote on town and eventually voted out scum

You're a weaker read due to popularity.

Scarfmanship is the play. I'd eat my hat if they're town

~Titus

Popularity? Wtffff????

[Past Present Future]

How is everyone saying me. I'm baffled

For me it’s imho possible traitor crumbs and overall play

My opening post was an obvious joke, Enchant and RR made similar posts. Overall play is obvious town, I opposed a vote on town and eventually voted out scum

You're a weaker read due to popularity.

Scarfmanship is the play. I'd eat my hat if they're town

~Titus

Popularity? Wtffff????

You're a popular SR...too easy.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

How would you feel about an unwd shot Titus?

[Past Present Future]

How would you feel about an unwd shot Titus?

Not my favorite. I have them as a lean town.

Brb

~Titus

[Ydrasse]

Am i a shot candidate