Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[geraintm]

also his "i become readable over time" is kind of bullshit since he literally won at endgame viewtopic.php?p=13483106#p13483106

by barely playing the entire game.

I am 90% sure if people take time to look at my posts over a game I can easily be spotted as scum. I know my posts (and votes) are different as scum and I can't help it.
I have zero idea why people struggle to spot me as scum.

There is no way I should ever be allowed to get to an end game any more without being checked, last game I begged and begged for people to look over me early doors so I wouldn't be a problem later.

[Herta]

the inane comments thing also applies to geraint/basically everyone who has shitposted at any point so I don’t really see how that’s unique to herta

They don't have a lot of more serious content to even out their posting

What on earth are you even talking about?

[geraintm]

geraint - I believe you can logically believe that town is < rand to flip scum on D1 but still attempt to play the game seriously regardless.

I know my d1 reads personally probably aren’t all that much better than rand if at all. I might even agree with you that on average scum flips < rand d1, not totally sure. I think that has little to do with not trying on D1 regardless, however

Just my 2c

I am.pkaying seriously, what makes you think I am not? I am noting behaviours I think are suspicious, and once day 2 comes around and we have more info, I'll be able to make better informed decisions than right now

[geraintm]

i am of the opinion that people who are run up and/or voted out day 1 are more likely to be town than scum

Okay. Gotcha.

Now, putting the wagon aside, do you think he is more likely town or not?

I think they are no more likely to be town than the rest of you

[geraintm]

i am of the opinion that people who are run up and/or voted out day 1 are more likely to be town than scum

Okay. Gotcha.

Now, putting the wagon aside, do you think he is more likely town or not?

Your view that D1 is pants and is basically random is acknowledged; but even if it is totally random, sometime those dice roll in our favour and we do land on scum.

Pooky is theorising you are going anti-spew here, and your answer to us both isn't doing much to prove that incorrect.

I'm not sure I know what anti spew means, sorry

[Herta]

also his "i become readable over time" is kind of bullshit since he literally won at endgame viewtopic.php?p=13483106#p13483106

by barely playing the entire game.

I am 90% sure if people take time to look at my posts over a game I can easily be spotted as scum. I know my posts (and votes) are different as scum and I can't help it.
I have zero idea why people struggle to spot me as scum.

There is no way I should ever be allowed to get to an end game any more without being checked, last game I begged and begged for people to look over me early doors so I wouldn't be a problem later.

How is your play in this game different from

Subject: Mini 2273: SDTLLSP 2 | Mafia Hideout

Hi.
I've never played with a traitor before either, so this is going to be weird.
I don't think we've played together before.

I will be useless day 1, I will sit there and moan and about pointless it is. My vote is very, very unlikely to be on the final wagon

People will hate me day 1, and at some point either day 1 or day 2 there will be a push to eliminate me, but I can usually count on enough people I've played with to go "oh, that's just the way he plays" for it not to matter

[geraintm]

i am of the opinion that people who are run up and/or voted out day 1 are more likely to be town than scum

Okay. Gotcha.

Now, putting the wagon aside, do you think he is more likely town or not?

Your view that D1 is pants and is basically random is acknowledged; but even if it is totally random, sometime those dice roll in our favour and we do land on scum.

Pooky is theorising you are going anti-spew here, and your answer to us both isn't doing much to prove that incorrect.

why would i want o vote for someone today i think is mor elikely to be town than now?

Is that your actual read on Scol? More likely town than scum?

i am of the opinion that people who are run up and/or voted out day 1 are more likely to be town than scum

What happened to just voting for the Most Popular Wagon at any given point on d1?

I did that in a few games, but once it was noticed it became less interesting to do. I did it to see if anyone started calling me out as scum for my actions, but I can't remember anyone doing so so it got dull and once known, it couldn't really be done anymore

[geraintm]

How is your play in this game different from

Subject: Mini 2273: SDTLLSP 2 | Mafia Hideout

Right now, probably no different. It's day 1, to do something now would be so out of my abilities I would assume someone had hacked my account
It is day 2 onwards when I am scum that I am different to town me. I panic once partner's start going down, get wildly optimistic when we aren't. My votes will 'accidentally ' be on town way more often than they should be and I don't vote my partner except in truly bizarre circumstances

[Toto]

Yo, close your eyes, IMAGINE its day two:

Scenario A) 99.9%: we murdered Scol, he was scum. Poor Toto got shot.

Scenario B) 0.1% we murdered Scol, he was town. Poor Toto got shot.

Who is scum now?

[Freedom]

Yo, close your eyes, IMAGINE its day two:

Scenario A) 99.9%: we murdered Scol, he was scum. Poor Toto got shot.

Scenario B) 0.1% we murdered Scol, he was town. Poor Toto got shot.

Who is scum now?

I don't SR Scol though.
His confidence reads as Towny.

[innocentvillager]

Confidence is NAI for Flavor if it’s him

[Toto]

whats your read if it was not flavor leaf?

[Ydrasse]

i be around tomorrow feeling nasty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hope you feel better soon ydra

[Scoliosis]

From my point of view there’s no doubt that geraintm will flip scum. He is active now that his slot is on the line, and as soon as attention drifts elsewhere he will disappear again. I have nothing to add except that I urge anyone who is conflicted about geraintm to review some of his scum games and see for yourself that this is a very surface level iteration of his usual scum tactics.

[geraintm]

Yo, close your eyes, IMAGINE its day two:

Scenario A) 99.9%: we murdered Scol, he was scum. Poor Toto got shot.

Scenario B) 0.1% we murdered Scol, he was town. Poor Toto got shot.

Who is scum now?

No idea. I will look at who was on the wagon, when they got on and why and take from there. I say repeatedly there is no point speculating day 1 when we don't have any info, why am I going to alter now just because you asked?

[Dannflor]

VOTE: geraintm e-1 i think

[geraintm]

From my point of view there’s no doubt that geraintm will flip scum. He is active now that his slot is on the line, and as soon as attention drifts elsewhere he will disappear again. I have nothing to add except that I urge anyone who is conflicted about geraintm to review some of his scum games and see for yourself that this is a very surface level iteration of his usual scum tactics.

Back in my 572 I said I strongly disliked your playstyle day 1.

This post just merely confirms it. "No doubt I will flip scum"!

I don't have you as scum though, I think I have you as town leaning, as scum you would not burn youtself this much trying to eliminate me. I'm not worth the effort.

[Toto]

[Val89]

I don't have you as scum though, I think I have you as town leaning, as scum you would not burn youtself this much trying to eliminate me. I'm not worth the effort.

I dislike that it's taken going into hammer range to drag this out of you. I'm also not convinced you don't know what anti-spew is given I've seen discussions on spew with you without challenge when looking at previous games; but that's a start.

I think a claim is in order.

[Dannflor]

claim claim claim

[innocentvillager]

UNVOTE: Geraintm I don’t care enough to rush this but I wouldn’t mind a claim either

Spiritually my vote is here though.

[Toto]

Yeah, I need to release my

mod confirmed info

before someone gets hammered, very important.

[Val89]

Are you sure taking your foot off the gas is the best idea here?

I've been less than impressed with geraintm's play today but I do think they are perfectly capable of playing this "I hate D1 and refuse to participate in it" strategy as both alignments. Being both less cagey with the read on Sco and a quick claim might have pushed me to give them benefit-of-the-doubt and on to the Sco wagon since my vote isn't doing much on a vanity wagon presently, but this feels like wanting to take some time to confer.

[innocentvillager]

I’m totally fine with a claim