OPEN 868 - Nobility and the Dark Angel | Endgame

[MathBlade]

Lol. I’m a hidden noble. Enchant tried to push me really hard as DA last day. Hmmmm

~Nancy

I take it then you’re suggesting NM is trolling?

I didn’t mentioned NM in this post but both he and Eiralox claimed hidden noble yesterday. If Eiralox was telling the truth, than DA would have to be Mega unless I’m wrong about Herta..

HEAL: Mega

Maybe better.

Is there a list somewhere of who has been noble?

Everyone other than Mega, Herta have either been elected or claimed noble. Enchant claimed HN and wasn’t CC’d but both NM and Eiralox claimed HN yesterday.

~N

Why do you say claimed? Are you not sure of it?

No one CC’d Enchant but that’s obviously not the same as an elected noble, which you and NM are. But I think he’s probably telling the truth about that since he wasn’t CC’d. With Eira and NM it’s less clear. But because it’s NM, the odds of Eira telling the truth about being HN are higher because NM trolls.

~N

I honestly would love a direct list.

Because it might be to DA’s advantage to claim nobled when they weren’t.

Then compare against VC totals and see which claims are verified.

Then actual DA pool is in not verified and never claimed

We probably still elim in never claimed but always trust but verify,

[Not_Mafia]

Herta's kinda obvscum here

[MathBlade]

Herta's kinda obvscum here

Care to explain why?

[MegAzumarill]

So PBE, Eira, ?NM? and Enchant claim to be hidden nobles?
And hidden nobles must be town?

[Polar Bear Express]

Lol. I’m a hidden noble. Enchant tried to push me really hard as DA last day. Hmmmm

~Nancy

I take it then you’re suggesting NM is trolling?

I didn’t mentioned NM in this post but both he and Eiralox claimed hidden noble yesterday. If Eiralox was telling the truth, than DA would have to be Mega unless I’m wrong about Herta..

HEAL: Mega

Maybe better.

Is there a list somewhere of who has been noble?

Everyone other than Mega, Herta have either been elected or claimed noble. Enchant claimed HN and wasn’t CC’d but both NM and Eiralox claimed HN yesterday.

~N

Why do you say claimed? Are you not sure of it?

No one CC’d Enchant but that’s obviously not the same as an elected noble, which you and NM are. But I think he’s probably telling the truth about that since he wasn’t CC’d. With Eira and NM it’s less clear. But because it’s NM, the odds of Eira telling the truth about being HN are higher because NM trolls.

~N

I honestly would love a direct list.

Because it might be to DA’s advantage to claim nobled when they weren’t.

Then compare against VC totals and see which claims are verified.

Then actual DA pool is in not verified and never claimed

We probably still elim in never claimed but always trust but verify,

If you can figure out the VCs, I think there’s a way to tell because HN vote counts but isn’t listed.

~N

[MathBlade]

Lol. I’m a hidden noble. Enchant tried to push me really hard as DA last day. Hmmmm

~Nancy

I take it then you’re suggesting NM is trolling?

I didn’t mentioned NM in this post but both he and Eiralox claimed hidden noble yesterday. If Eiralox was telling the truth, than DA would have to be Mega unless I’m wrong about Herta..

HEAL: Mega

Maybe better.

Is there a list somewhere of who has been noble?

Everyone other than Mega, Herta have either been elected or claimed noble. Enchant claimed HN and wasn’t CC’d but both NM and Eiralox claimed HN yesterday.

~N

Why do you say claimed? Are you not sure of it?

No one CC’d Enchant but that’s obviously not the same as an elected noble, which you and NM are. But I think he’s probably telling the truth about that since he wasn’t CC’d. With Eira and NM it’s less clear. But because it’s NM, the odds of Eira telling the truth about being HN are higher because NM trolls.

~N

I honestly would love a direct list.

Because it might be to DA’s advantage to claim nobled when they weren’t.

Then compare against VC totals and see which claims are verified.

Then actual DA pool is in not verified and never claimed

We probably still elim in never claimed but always trust but verify,

If you can figure out the VCs, I think there’s a way to tell because HN vote counts but isn’t listed.

~N

So PBE, Eira, ?NM? and Enchant claim to be hidden nobles?
And hidden nobles must be town?

I believe they are only confirmed not DA.

[MathBlade]

Lol. I’m a hidden noble. Enchant tried to push me really hard as DA last day. Hmmmm

~Nancy

I take it then you’re suggesting NM is trolling?

I didn’t mentioned NM in this post but both he and Eiralox claimed hidden noble yesterday. If Eiralox was telling the truth, than DA would have to be Mega unless I’m wrong about Herta..

HEAL: Mega

Maybe better.

Is there a list somewhere of who has been noble?

Everyone other than Mega, Herta have either been elected or claimed noble. Enchant claimed HN and wasn’t CC’d but both NM and Eiralox claimed HN yesterday.

~N

Why do you say claimed? Are you not sure of it?

No one CC’d Enchant but that’s obviously not the same as an elected noble, which you and NM are. But I think he’s probably telling the truth about that since he wasn’t CC’d. With Eira and NM it’s less clear. But because it’s NM, the odds of Eira telling the truth about being HN are higher because NM trolls.

~N

I honestly would love a direct list.

Because it might be to DA’s advantage to claim nobled when they weren’t.

Then compare against VC totals and see which claims are verified.

Then actual DA pool is in not verified and never claimed

We probably still elim in never claimed but always trust but verify,

If you can figure out the VCs, I think there’s a way to tell because HN vote counts but isn’t listed.

~N

It’s more look at the last day’s VCs.

If there were enough people to hammer without hidden noble then it’s possible hidden noble is lying if off wagon.

Mainly it’s math I have to do after work.

But if day 6 needed for elim and 5 were on wagon and player was elimmed hidden noble is in those 5.

[Polar Bear Express]

So PBE, Eira, ?NM? and Enchant claim to be hidden nobles?
And hidden nobles must be town?

No not IC but since it’s in mafia’s interest to HN DA, it’s likely they were looking for them. Since I was HN’d, it makes me think that Eira was also probably likely telling the truth, because mafia clearly didn’t know.

Enchant’s push on me looked really fake but maybe I just talked myself out of Enchant being mafia and just bad town? \_0_/

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

Lol. I’m a hidden noble. Enchant tried to push me really hard as DA last day. Hmmmm

~Nancy

I take it then you’re suggesting NM is trolling?

I didn’t mentioned NM in this post but both he and Eiralox claimed hidden noble yesterday. If Eiralox was telling the truth, than DA would have to be Mega unless I’m wrong about Herta..

HEAL: Mega

Maybe better.

Is there a list somewhere of who has been noble?

Everyone other than Mega, Herta have either been elected or claimed noble. Enchant claimed HN and wasn’t CC’d but both NM and Eiralox claimed HN yesterday.

~N

Why do you say claimed? Are you not sure of it?

No one CC’d Enchant but that’s obviously not the same as an elected noble, which you and NM are. But I think he’s probably telling the truth about that since he wasn’t CC’d. With Eira and NM it’s less clear. But because it’s NM, the odds of Eira telling the truth about being HN are higher because NM trolls.

~N

I honestly would love a direct list.

Because it might be to DA’s advantage to claim nobled when they weren’t.

Then compare against VC totals and see which claims are verified.

Then actual DA pool is in not verified and never claimed

We probably still elim in never claimed but always trust but verify,

If you can figure out the VCs, I think there’s a way to tell because HN vote counts but isn’t listed.

~N

It’s more look at the last day’s VCs.

If there were enough people to hammer without hidden noble then it’s possible hidden noble is lying if off wagon.

Mainly it’s math I have to do after work.

But if day 6 needed for elim and 5 were on wagon and player was elimmed hidden noble is in those 5.

Well yesterday was the only day so far with two HN claims, unfortunately one is NM though. But if he’s telling the truth not trolling, then wouldn’t look good for Eira.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

Herta's kinda obvscum here

Care to explain why?

+1

Think I was probably right about NM being town. Sounds like town!NM to me.

~N

[MathBlade]

Herta's kinda obvscum here

Care to explain why?

+1

Think I was probably right about NM being town. Sounds like town!NM to me.

~N

I am just shocked NM gave a read.

[MegAzumarill]

I mean we just noble me today and herta tomorrow and win?

[MegAzumarill]

Unless we are worried about DA not being between us

[MathBlade]

I mean we just noble me today and herta tomorrow and win?

Assuming DA is the one we don’t noble we might lose. Scum hidden noble the other if I follow the setup right?

[MathBlade]

I think we have to think things through and focus on elimming scum too.

If we don’t hidden noble the da today then odds are scum will do it tonight. We might be in danger of losing here so let’s go slow.

[Polar Bear Express]

I mean we just noble me today and herta tomorrow and win?

Unless we are worried about DA not being between us

Hmmm . . . if Mega isn’t posturing with this and DA isn’t Herta, maybe one of the HN lied. Still can’t tell if NM was trolling, so Eira could have been telling the truth?

Still suss on Enchant. I didn’t like his interactions with me yesterday.

So far:

PBE

Math

NM

I feel are probably all town.

Mega’s reaction to being healed makes me think maybe DA could be Herta then or possibly Eira?

I still like Herta but if NM’s town which I think he probably is then I shouldn’t ignore his reads. I’m still kicking myself for that last game for limming him > Dannflor at elo.

~ N

[Enchant]

so let's elim and noble remaining two?

[Polar Bear Express]

Eiralox PBE or Meg.

Can you go into why you suspect these players so I can check my notes later?

Everyone else has been a noble other than me and I'm a vt. So with PBE claiming that narrows it down to Eiralox or Meg (Junko). I'm not healing outside of those two today.

While I obviously know I’m telling the truth, you were very quick to lock me in before anyone had the chance to fake CC me.

Who do you think is mafia?

~N

[Enchant]

MathBlade - Noble
Herta
Eiralox - Noble
Polar Bear Express (Noraa & Nancy Drew 39) - Noble
Not_Mafia - Noble
Enchant - Noble
MegAzumarill


Herta or Meg are DA.

[Polar Bear Express]

MathBlade - Noble
Herta
Eiralox - Noble
Polar Bear Express (Noraa & Nancy Drew 39) - Noble
Not_Mafia - Noble
Enchant - Noble
MegAzumarill


Herta or Meg are DA.

Who’s mafia? We know that three players are scum.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

I think we have to think things through and focus on elimming scum too.

If we don’t hidden noble the da today then odds are scum will do it tonight. We might be in danger of losing here so let’s go slow.

Another reason, Math and NM are my highest trs. Both Herta and Enchant are only looking for DA.

~N

[Enchant]

MathBlade - Noble
Herta
Eiralox - Noble
Polar Bear Express (Noraa & Nancy Drew 39) - Noble
Not_Mafia - Noble
Enchant - Noble
MegAzumarill


Herta or Meg are DA.

Who’s mafia? We know that three players are scum.

~N

I don't want to talk with you.

[MathBlade]

so let's elim and noble remaining two?

Let’s assume DA between Meg and Herta. I believe this is the common assumption. Late night will verify this later.

Assume we noble Meg and the DA is Herta and we miselim. Then scum likely DA Herta. Mafia gets a one shot dayvig.

We are at 8 alive. Into night 7 alive. DA Herta, they leave. NK someone. 5 alive into day, scum dayvig, we lose.

If you like swap Meg and Herta. If wrong same consequence.

So if we aim to win the game with DA we absolutely have to be sure on scum.

Mainly I am trying to figure out how to proceed in the safest manner possible.

It might be that we don’t try to win via DA. Or if we do try to win via DA we understand and acknowledge the risk as a group.

[Enchant]

We must elim+noble Herta+Meg.


If we elim wrong and noble DA we win.
If we noble wrong, and elim DA, we atleast prevent mafia from receiving Dayvig.


Issue is who is who. I have no idea.

[Polar Bear Express]

MathBlade - Noble
Herta
Eiralox - Noble
Polar Bear Express (Noraa & Nancy Drew 39) - Noble
Not_Mafia - Noble
Enchant - Noble
MegAzumarill


Herta or Meg are DA.

Who’s mafia? We know that three players are scum.

~N

I don't want to talk with you.

Well too bad because I want to solve this game and you not engaging with me is antitown on your part whatever you are.

~N