OPEN 868 - Nobility and the Dark Angel | Endgame

[MathBlade]

Also I will give fair warning I will selfhammer if it would leave Herta as noble. I will not self vote without hammer given that scum could change plurality to another player and win. (Especially since my vote is the only one that would be counted for herta)



Should be a given but wanted to mention

This one here. You’re talking self hammering when we haven’t decided which way.

It’s very “whelp this is my last day no matter what and I have no way to achieve my win con let’s just hammer me and end it” energy

[MegAzumarill]

As DA that would be completing my Win Con? Same with town

[MegAzumarill]

The only alignment that wouldnt be a win for is if I was mafia

[MathBlade]

The only alignment that wouldnt be a win for is if I was mafia

Yeah exactly. I think you’re either A) a DA who loses no matter what so you’re having fun with it
Or B) Mafia working towards a win con by dying and trying to look like DA so you don’t lose by us elimming Herta.

[MegAzumarill]

Other way around

[MegAzumarill]

I'm a Mafia working toward my win con trying to not lose by making you elim Herta rather than noble.

Or I'm town or DA working toward my win con by being elimmed and having Herta Nobled.

[MegAzumarill]

So to clarify do you think I'm trying to be the noble vote today?

Y/N

[MathBlade]

So to clarify do you think I'm trying to be the noble vote today?

Y/N

I think you have a strategic plan of some kind and are begging for hammers. I don’t know the full plan though.

[MegAzumarill]

So to clarify do you think I'm trying to be the noble vote today?

Y/N

I think you have a strategic plan of some kind and are begging for hammers. I don’t know the full plan though.

I'll put it this way
If you think I am not trying to be noblized today, then you think I am either not mafia, or Herta is not DA. Nothing else makes logical sense.

Realistically my strategic plan is I know DA and we automatically noble him and therefore win when I am elimmed. I'd be happy to expedite that.

[MathBlade]

So to clarify do you think I'm trying to be the noble vote today?

Y/N

I think you have a strategic plan of some kind and are begging for hammers. I don’t know the full plan though.

I'll put it this way
If you think I am not trying to be noblized today, then you think I am either not mafia, or Herta is not DA. Nothing else makes logical sense.

Realistically my strategic plan is I know DA and we automatically noble him and therefore win when I am elimmed. I'd be happy to expedite that.

Incorrect. Mafia you would aim for noble if Herta is DA because scum you knows Herta is DA and making Herta noble = you loss

[MegAzumarill]

I agree. therefore if I am not aiming to make myself noble, I am either not mafia or know Herta is not DA, which is what I said

[MathBlade]

I agree. therefore if I am not aiming to make myself noble, I am either not mafia or know Herta is not DA, which is what I said

But you begged for hammers? So you do want noble?

[MathBlade]

You don’t want noble*

[MathBlade]

Which is odd…

* logs out to do some thinking *

I hate this wine

[MegAzumarill]

I agree. therefore if I am not aiming to make myself noble, I am either not mafia or know Herta is not DA, which is what I said

But you begged for hammers? So you do want noble?

You can only hammer eliminations

Nobles is plurality at time of elimination

[MegAzumarill]

Because plurality for noble is currently on Herta, the DA, if any other player was hammered town instantly wins.

[MegAzumarill]

Which is odd…

* logs out to do some thinking *

I hate this wine

You don’t want noble*

Ok so we're on the same page

I don't see what you think is odd.

[MathBlade]

You just socially feel scum to me and I don’t know why. Anytime I read your posts I just see scum.

[Herta]

I'm just going to repeat myself. Meh should be nobled. If that means me being limmed I'm good with that. The game will be over anyway. But if it is me nobled and Meg limmed, that's fine too although less preferable because I'm that case the game continues into elo.i mainly posted this to avoid a prod, but it does state my position. I think not mafia is one of the scumbos. That part where he refused to help us confirm the hidden nobles was a scum claim.

[MathBlade]

I figured out what I don’t like I think.

I don’t like Meg and Herta agree.

It makes me really want to noble Meg and elim Herta.

[MegAzumarill]

You just socially feel scum to me and I don’t know why. Anytime I read your posts I just see scum.

How so? Saying I just seem like scum isn't particularly helpful.

Motivationally if I'm not mafia I have the same goal regardless of DA/Town and we've discussed why I'm not mafia.

Honestly Math's recent posting feels less like actual thoughts and more like pushing an agenda. Logically it doesn't hold together and I feel like he came to the realization I was town someway through (probably thinks I wouldn't question someone supporting my wincon as DA) and decides to make this pivot.

An alternative explanation for this pivot is having reason to go either way as scum that still isn't sure.

Realistically town! Math has always been fairly strong and consistant in my experience but more importantly much more articulate about their thoughts than they are being now. Makes me feel like conclusion is superceding reasoning which screams an agenda to me.

[MegAzumarill]

I'm going to look back into tapioca more real quick, if there's questions I'd be happy to answer

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: eiralox
HEAL: bears

i think there's scum in eira/junko/herta and DA in PBE/toto/junko

Actually NKs make perfect sense if scum is actually working off these DA targets, substituting the scum options as what scum think is able to be mislimmed

[MegAzumarill]

Both DA targets dead/Nobled and the my slot being left alive as a more likely to frame as mafia target due to Junko being present in the prior list. Also ties in to Mathblades behavior pretty immensely assuming his partner wanted him to follow through with this for whatever reason. The claim of me as mafia when we could easily walk through why that was unlikely and the feeling of these unnatural, forced reads.

This also means mafia had DA as the least likely possible candidate which is funny af if yrue

[MegAzumarill]

Of course this is kind of irrelevant unless I do end up nobled but I joined this fame to scumhunt and that's what I wanna do