no nk could also happen as the result of a successful heal by reliable, weak, or cpr doc though. i admittedly haven’t thought enough about the setup myself, but i think the point of it is that it’s hard to discern the cause of whatever happens at night. i’m just not understanding how a no-nk will give us that much info.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 49, Elements wrote:Does that not work because the no kill could be from a doctor saving someone or the night kill could be a doctor killing someone?
That's the purpose of the two groups, we would know who was the potential protect and it would always be the Nurse that is conftown vs a suspect.
In post 51, Abnegation wrote:no nk could also happen as the result of a successful heal by reliable, weak, or cpr doc though. i admittedly haven’t thought enough about the setup myself, but i think the point of it is that it’s hard to discern the cause of whatever happens at night. i’m just not understanding how a no-nk will give us that much info.
Maybe when I explain the group thing it will be easier to understand my thought process
In post 49, Elements wrote:Does that not work because the no kill could be from a doctor saving someone or the night kill could be a doctor killing someone?
That's the purpose of the two groups, we would know who was the potential protect and it would always be the Nurse that is conftown vs a suspect.
-Aether
can you explain how this works/what it would look like? you’ve lost me.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 42, Abnegation wrote:how does our jk become a cop if they don’t know they’re the jk?
By dividing ourselves in two groups. We don't need to know who is the jailkeeper, we would just need to get a no NK night with one scum remaining. Even if they do no night kill to falsely incriminate someone, it's not as good as it may look in the paper because we can gain extra eliminations if they keep no night killing.
Jailkeeper is a very powerful role on one scum standing.
-Aether
yessss steal my intellectual idea!!! jk but that was my thought process before. we can also have everyone do no night action that or do circular save
Hmm no offense but I don't think I stealer anyone idea. Dividing us on 2 groups of 4 was always the plan I was hinting on, from what I understood your idea was for docs to target each other or for to form groups 5that target each other. My plan is two groups that alternate on protecting the nurse and targeting a common suspect.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 49, Elements wrote:Does that not work because the no kill could be from a doctor saving someone or the night kill could be a doctor killing someone?
That's the purpose of the two groups, we would know who was the potential protect and it would always be the Nurse that is conftown vs a suspect.
-Aether
can you explain how this works/what it would look like? you’ve lost me.
Yeah I will eventually, it's just hard to do so in the phone but I will try. Please bear with me.
In post 42, Abnegation wrote:how does our jk become a cop if they don’t know they’re the jk?
By dividing ourselves in two groups. We don't need to know who is the jailkeeper, we would just need to get a no NK night with one scum remaining. Even if they do no night kill to falsely incriminate someone, it's not as good as it may look in the paper because we can gain extra eliminations if they keep no night killing.
Jailkeeper is a very powerful role on one scum standing.
-Aether
yessss steal my intellectual idea!!! jk but that was my thought process before. we can also have everyone do no night action that or do circular save
Hmm no offense but I don't think I stealer anyone idea. Dividing us on 2 groups of 4 was always the plan I was hinting on, from what I understood your idea was for docs to target each other or for to form groups 5that target each other. My plan is two groups that alternate on protecting the nurse and targeting a common suspect.
-Aether
oh i thought u meant 2 people in each group. then nevermind. and no docs wouldn't target each other. they would target like u hinted at, "common suspect" but instead of 2 groups like u said i meant multiple groups of two which would be more eh but yk
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Wait until I fully explain to dismiss it if you're town please.
only scum would like dislike it because scum is forced to choose a target and have to get lucky not to either get killed during the night or solved during the day
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In post 51, Abnegation wrote:no nk could also happen as the result of a successful heal by reliable, weak, or cpr doc though. i admittedly haven’t thought enough about the setup myself, but i think the point of it is that it’s hard to discern the cause of whatever happens at night. i’m just not understanding how a no-nk will give us that much info.
that can be solved with the groups not performing any action. if that wasn't included in the meta then all the docs will be compulsive
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This early game discussion topic is very out of my field so i'm just gonna leave the mech strategizing to Aether and focus on my own solving and just being adorable.
In post 13, Tabibitos wrote:I have already an early idea about how we could try to optimally play the setup perhaps but not only I'm in the phone atm so it's a pain to write long posts, as much as I want to do lol strategies on a semi-bastard games, I don't know much about the player list here and their opinion on trying to play a wonky setup optimally versus enjoying the wonkiness of it. I would need everyone cooperation on the mech plan so before we argue how good of a mech plan it is, does anyone oppose the very idea of trying to minimize the wonky aka "fun" (be it good or bad) nature of the setup?
Very very happy to sacrifice "fun" in the name of win %!
I guess Abnegation feels like scum. No reason, just a feeling.
In post 66, Tabibitos wrote:This early game discussion topic is very out of my field so i'm just gonna leave the mech strategizing to Aether and focus on my own solving and just being adorable.
- Lumine
Where is NorwegianBoy? I want to talk to them.
In post 68, Vanderscamp wrote:Very very happy to sacrifice "fun" in the name of win %!
Same. If possible, I prefer we win through attrition.
I have no read on Enchant in either direction. I might use Enchant as a baseline to compare everyone else because I don't think Enchant could be more null if they tried.
In post 42, Abnegation wrote:how does our jk become a cop if they don’t know they’re the jk?
By dividing ourselves in two groups. We don't need to know who is the jailkeeper, we would just need to get a no NK night with one scum remaining. Even if they do no night kill to falsely incriminate someone, it's not as good as it may look in the paper because we can gain extra eliminations if they keep no night killing.
Jailkeeper is a very powerful role on one scum standing.
-Aether
yessss steal my intellectual idea!!! jk but that was my thought process before. we can also have everyone do no night action that or do circular save
Yeah this seems really pockety. I'm getting bad vibes from you, GrandapaMo.
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