Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 5.03

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2023-01-09 14:00:00).

yeet

Herta [2]:

skitter30, Firebringer

Firebringer [2]:

KittyTacky, innocentvillager

Val89 [1]:

Val89

Ydrasse [1]:

Herta

not voting [2]:

Ydrasse, MathBlade

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[MathBlade]

2 things:

First, Mathblade says he is fine with today being a gladiate, and will result in a town win. Both his solves have me as scum. He has other people willing to vote me. He has voted for me to day - but then unvoted, and in doing so made Herta, someone he says is obviously not scum, the leading wagon. We know given the lines drawn today that at least one person, maybe more, is going have to compromise. He makes my own wagon less viable, and the Herta one more likely to end up the compromise, while complaining about that state of affairs.

Secondly:

By saying Herta is the only viable lim today, he implies Ydra is not viable. That's one that looks like it might be a viable compromise too, but not to math - despite math arguing - TODAY - that we always flip Ydra on the day before ELO. Isn't that today?

No I don’t have anyone willing to vote you.

Literally everyone is defending you.

And no I don’t think Ydrasse is viable.

Anytime anyone discusses another slot Herta comes up

I feel like I have explained Herta town to death and it just keeps coming up and no one refutes the idea of scum having to want the elim and Herta being scum. It’s just really illogical to me.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: FB

Maybe?

[Firebringer]

Fire can you talk to me about your general thoughts rn? How do you feel about how the game has progressed, who is scum, where is your headspace at?

No.
Stop playing this game like its page 5.

[innocentvillager]

?

[Val89]

so why is going you-Herta any different than Herta-you? You might not die tomorrow also?

You might still end up flipping Herta tomorrow, but I think with my green card on the table, and the "Well, Val is just scum" excuse off the table, and KT dead, which lets be honest, is the most likely outcome overnight, town has better chance of making the right play in ELO than if Herta flips green with me alive.

Me into Herta is a possibility, as I've acknowledged, but is much less likely: for a start, Mathblade has every excuse in the world to jump on and stay on me after a Herta misflip ("See? fucking told you. Can I have the lim of the 'slimy' slot I've been asking for since D2 now?); but how does he justify moving to Herta after mine?

I mean, this is what is playing out in front of your very nose right now - ask yourself why mathblade is voting Firebringer now, and only now, after you have voted there - remind yourself than in the last 48 hours, mathblade has said that he is happy with today being a gladiate, because (presumably) he will win and my lim will lead to town victory, gg, and that from his point of view, I am scum, but I could be partnered with KT.

[Firebringer]

im in favor the plan of flipping me then mathblade tomorrow.
Then blaming town lose on mathblade for all of this.

[Firebringer]

?

there should be nothing confusing about my response.
u are asking questions as if i have not been in this game for the last dozens of pages giving thoughts and expressing opinions. U continue to do this several times in this game. Its very annoying and im not here to entertain u. Do the work or don't. But stop asking questions.

If there is anything that u dont get about my positions thats fine. But at least show ur reading my posts. U know, like make the vaguest notion of effort into figuring out where i stand. Ur questions are like page 5 as in "this person hasn't done anything, lets just ask him general question so i can get footing on him"

[Val89]

No I don’t have anyone willing to vote you.

Including yourself, apparently.

There is not a single wagon at the moment that has enough support to go through without compromise right now: I wont vote Herta. KT says he won't vote Herta. Skitter and FB already have; IV and Ydra might, but then, absent a self-hammer, that's 4, and that lim still only happens with your help.

Town!you has no valid reason not to use the most powerful tool you have to push my lim forward. Scum!you has a massive reason - when the deadline ticks closer, and IV, or KT or skitter or whomever, has to decide between a wagon that they don't really want and a no lim, you don't want any extra votes on mine that might push them on the a wagon you say you want, but don't really.

[Firebringer]

i mean at this point im pretty sure scum want to save herta either because he is scum or they think it looks bad to lim town him for....reasons i guess

[innocentvillager]

Noted that super general questions like that at this stage are annoying, thanks for the feedback. I do feel like the vast majority of my questions are pointed but I can see how that was annoying.

I just got a weird vibe from some of your recent posting and I wanted to see if your headspace made it make sense for me. If I feel something similar in the future I will find a more pointed way to ask my question.

[innocentvillager]

I do recent isos of everyone, to be clear, including you. Im sorry I made you feel like I want you to entertain me, im totally chill with you just saying something is in your iso and being done with it

[innocentvillager]

It also doesn’t explain the no kill either.

it actually perfectly does.

Scum tried to kill Skitter because she was most adamant on scum herta.
Ydra went to perform the kill.
I jailkept skitter, so ydra decided to immediately claim a "possible inno" in the event i jailkeeped her so she could win out in anyway that it occured that she wouldn't be instant guiltied. If i claimed i jailkept Ydra, she oculd say skitter is unconfirmed. If i claimed jailkeep on skitter, she can pretend she has a good inno.

It makes so much sense to me.

So you are thinking Ydr + Herta for the team.

It feels too level zero to me that they would kill skitter, who was heavily heavily suspected, and her only real strong read being Herta scum. I think Herta would look incredibly bad at that point, and no other team realistically makes that kill when skitter is an easy mis elim.

[innocentvillager]

pictured: me, waking up and somehow still alive

(not feeling It today, will be around tmrw)

I know this was a meme but ngl this is kind of a scummy reaction…? Only scum would be that elated, as town seeing another green flip instead of your own green flip would absolutely not give me that reaction

[Firebringer]

i think ydra has not been playing in the scum pt because she has not been involved.
Herta been picking kills is my theory of this game actually.

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

if ur to the point where me posting thyt is somehow scum and thinking i wouldn’t even contribute 2 team discussion s pls kill me now lol

[Ydrasse]

icould breathe at thisnpoint and be called scum i thinki

[Firebringer]

i can't prove ur breathing so i guess ur null then

[Herta]

i think ydra has not been playing in the scum pt because she has not been involved.
Herta been picking kills is my theory of this game actually.

The subtext here is insulting.

[Firebringer]

i actually don't know ur position on me.
So why don't u think im scum or want to vote me

[innocentvillager]

if ur to the point where me posting thyt is somehow scum and thinking i wouldn’t even contribute 2 team discussion s pls kill me now lol

ok why did you post that then

Did it actually reflect how you felt when you woke up…?

[Ydrasse]

because i was alive despite leaving thhread at e-1 and it was just like “lol i lived”
i laughed when ichecked even if it was another town dead because it the last votes were goofy

[Ydrasse]

like ik ur trying to use snything here but my memes arent going to bear snything fruitful i’m sorry

[Firebringer]

can we at least demand more memes