Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[kuribo]

besides, look at what he's saying

"I'm not going to help you guys, but I gotta warn you, I'm always scummy when I'm town! If I were scum, you'd never know it because I'd be so town!"

Mod edit
Votecount:
Wall-E (7): kuribo, Riceballtail, armlx, ThAdmiral, Surye, BlakAdder, Jebus
Xtoxm (1): Wall-E
farside22 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (6): Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby, farside22

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

[Wall-E]

I think he's town, but he's being horribly anti-town by refusing to even ask the mod for his actions. If he doesn't i'll vote him as policy.

Oh, I can do that?

Mod: Can I get my night actions sent to me?

In case that doesn't work, I'll also PM him.

[farside22]

Yeah wall-es definately lying.

And speaking about lies...

I was never on Slicey's wagon thank you very much.

Vote: Slicey

You're just attacking a random target, almost doing the same thing you claimed of him. Need proof? Look at Emp's posts in isolation and show me ONE place he's pushing for a lynch.

If you voted without a case, that would be one thing, but you had specific behaviors you voted for which are not even CLOSE to reality.

This is true. Also the post were Armlx ask why he hasn't voted. Slicey explains why then a post later post and votes for Empking. Just feels like someone caving to pressure.

unvote:
vote: Slicey

Middle of page 16.

Yay but at the end of the day I read the game and didn't like some peoples votes and questioned it. Which is why I changed my vote to Jebus and still think Jebus is part of the scum group.

[Wall-E]

So you're saying it was not a lie?

[Wall-E]

Got a response:


Night 1: no action taken
Night 2: protected Jebus
Night 3: protected armlx

[springlullaby]

Doc and no action taken N1?

[Surye]

And Jebus? There was so much doubt cast on him, there's no way scum would have hit him.

[farside22]

So you're saying it was not a lie?

ThAdmiral stated I was on the Slicey BW. I thought he was talking about the end of the day not a vote I placed on him and upon reading the game changed my views.

[kuribo]

why the hell wouldn't you protect someone n1?

[farside22]

Got a response:


Night 1: no action taken
Night 2: protected Jebus
Night 3: protected armlx

None of these actions make sense.
N1 no protection? you can't say you weren't around to put in a choice
N2 Jebus? Jebus? Why Jebus of all people?
N3 Armlx was one of the few players that most everyone figure that SL was going to switch. This makes the least amount of sense.

[Xtoxm]

Although I don't see the logic behind any of his actions, I do believe him and definately will not consider voting him without a CC.

I suggest you think about this before rushing the lynch of another possible power-role.

[farside22]

Although I don't see the logic behind any of his actions, I do believe him and definately will not consider voting him without a CC.

I suggest you think about this before rushing the lynch of another possible power-role.

You know Wall-E is voting for you and all this defense of one player for no reason is scummy when you don't know if the player is lying and doc is the easiest thing for scum to claim.

[Xtoxm]

Yes, and it's annoying that he's voting me, but retalliation voting should be the last course of action when you think someone is town, in such a situation.

Though thinking about it, the lack of his changing a vote here is quite possibly a scum-tell.

Why would you keep voting the only person defending you when you're about to be lynched?

[armlx]

Someone just fucking hammer now.

[Xtoxm]

See, that is why I am suspicious of Armlx. If Wall isn't scum, i'll not be happy with Armlx living to endgame.

[armlx]

See, that is why I am suspicious of Armlx. If Wall isn't scum, i'll not be happy with Armlx living to endgame.

I'm sorry, I can't help but laugh here.

Seriously, this post is a joke right? This is the same game we are reading, where I bread crumbed 2 cop results, counterclaimed a scum false claiming cop and put a guilty out on another scum?

[Xtoxm]

Only one scum is required to survive for victory.

[armlx]

Only one scum is required to survive for victory.

Yes, and if I was scum the best way to ensure this would be to cause the deaths of 2 fellow scum and make myself a major target for a potential SK.....

[Xtoxm]

And get protection for the entire game, in a game that seems to have an abnormally large number of protective roles, presumably the scum also have a Doc and BD.

[Xtoxm]

Plus, SKs never kill cops, they are cop immune, it's Mafia's job to take out the cop, so saying that is very scummy.

[armlx]

And get protection for the entire game, in a game that seems to have an abnormally large number of protective roles, presumably the scum also have a Doc and BD.

The way I see for there to be a scum doc is if Wall-E is it......

And BD?

And there was already a dead doc and bus driver. You are saying I would just assume there was a second of each with no info to suggest otherwise?

Plus, SKs never kill cops, they are cop immune, it's Mafia's job to take out the cop, so saying that is very scummy.

SK's are actually usually NK immune, and only occasionally cop immune.

[Xtoxm]

Hmm...Possibly a fair point about scum wouldn't have known about town protection roles.

However you nicely choose to avoid my speculation of scum likely aslo having protection roles. You bussed an RB and a Goon. I see no dead Mafia BD or Doc.

BD = Bus Driver.

I have never seen a cop that gets guilty on an SK on this site, and find they also get NK Immunity about 50% of the time, so I don't know where you pulled that from.

[Wall-E]

Why don't I unvote Xtoxm? Because he's 1) scum and 2) defending me in the face of an inevitable lynch, because he knows I'm town. Duh.

[armlx]

However you nicely choose to avoid my speculation of scum likely aslo having protection roles. You bussed an RB and a Goon. I see no dead Mafia BD or Doc.

Again, CLEARLY the right option in that case would be the counter claim, assume no town cop counter claims, and etc. Or just, you know, protect al4xz and use him as a fake cop.

I have never seen a cop that gets guilty on an SK on this site, and find they also get NK Immunity about 50% of the time, so I don't know where you pulled that from.

The only games I can think of where the SK was cop immune are the large C9ish games. Every game I have modded the SK has been cop vulnerable, bar Random 2 where the SK was night action immune completely.

This basically sounds like an unreal reach by you as scum in some desperate attempt to get the town to deal with a protected cop for you.

[farside22]

As far as I know cops get guilty on SK almost every game I have been part of.
I think Xtoxm is scum trying to pull a BS case on a claimed cop.