Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

Xtoxm · Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:01 am

Wall-E wrote:Why don't I unvote Xtoxm? Because he's 1) scum and 2) defending me in the face of an inevitable lynch, because he knows I'm town. Duh.

Mod edit
Votecount:
Wall-E (7): kuribo, Riceballtail, armlx, ThAdmiral, Surye, BlakAdder, Jebus
Xtoxm (1): Wall-E
farside22 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (6): Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby, farside22

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:02 am

armlx wrote:
However you nicely choose to avoid my speculation of scum likely aslo having protection roles. You bussed an RB and a Goon. I see no dead Mafia BD or Doc.
Again, CLEARLY the right option in that case would be the counter claim, assume no town cop counter claims, and etc. Or just, you know, protect al4xz and use him as a fake cop.

I have never seen a cop that gets guilty on an SK on this site, and find they also get NK Immunity about 50% of the time, so I don't know where you pulled that from.
The only games I can think of where the SK was cop immune are the large C9ish games. Every game I have modded the SK has been cop vulnerable, bar Random 2 where the SK was night action immune completely.

This basically sounds like an unreal reach by you as scum in some desperate attempt to get the town to deal with a protected cop for you.

If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

farside22 · Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:04 am

If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

Ummm does Xtoxm look like he has info about the mafia in that last post?
I think so.

vote: Xtoxm

armlx · Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:57 am

If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

That's the dumbest thing I've hear in a while......

farside22 · Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:01 pm

armlx wrote:
If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.
That's the dumbest thing I've hear in a while......

Really? I have some really bad jokes if it helps. Seriously though he is alluding to have some sort of inside information or asking for a CC so the group can kill the doc. I like Xtoxm as scum lots more now.

Surye · Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:03 pm

The overwhelming scummyness of them both is frying my scumdar circuits.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:06 pm

Well we're both pro-town power-roles so it might be an idea to get a new one installed anyway...

farside22 · Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:10 pm

Xtoxm wrote:Well we're both pro-town power-roles so it might be an idea to get a new one installed anyway...

Surye · Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:23 pm

Xtoxm's buddying is also pretty suspicious in this light. I wouldn't be opposed with going back to Xtoxm, I left him reluctantly (though Wall-E managed to convince me it wasn't a terrible move).

armlx · Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:41 pm

Xtoxm wrote:Well we're both pro-town power-roles so it might be an idea to get a new one installed anyway...

I lol'ed.

Riceballtail · Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:37 pm

I was going to believe the claim, at first take, but I'm only being further convinced of scumminess now.

Wall-E · Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:44 pm

Xtoxm wrote:If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

Have you ever tried this in a mafia game or were you ever in one where it was tried?

armlx · Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:57 pm

Riceballtail wrote:I was going to believe the claim, at first take, but I'm only being further convinced of scumminess now.

You were going to believe there were 3 doctors?

kuribo · Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:43 pm

Xtoxm wrote:
armlx wrote:
However you nicely choose to avoid my speculation of scum likely aslo having protection roles. You bussed an RB and a Goon. I see no dead Mafia BD or Doc.
Again, CLEARLY the right option in that case would be the counter claim, assume no town cop counter claims, and etc. Or just, you know, protect al4xz and use him as a fake cop.

I have never seen a cop that gets guilty on an SK on this site, and find they also get NK Immunity about 50% of the time, so I don't know where you pulled that from.
The only games I can think of where the SK was cop immune are the large C9ish games. Every game I have modded the SK has been cop vulnerable, bar Random 2 where the SK was night action immune completely.

This basically sounds like an unreal reach by you as scum in some desperate attempt to get the town to deal with a protected cop for you.
If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

How do you know if the scum has a GF?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:56 am

Only scum know that. My point is the scum's knowledge of whether they do or don't is what's important, and how Armlx-Scum could know to do that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:57 am

armlx wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:I was going to believe the claim, at first take, but I'm only being further convinced of scumminess now.
You were going to believe there were 3 doctors?

I think it's quite possible.

Why are you saying it's not?

armlx · Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:36 am

Xtoxm wrote:
armlx wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:I was going to believe the claim, at first take, but I'm only being further convinced of scumminess now.
You were going to believe there were 3 doctors?
I think it's quite possible.

Why are you saying it's not?

It's not QUITE possible. Its possible, but extremely improbable to the extent that the statistically correct play is to assume he is lying.

kuribo · Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:47 am

Okay, Xtoxm's retarded play is starting to adversely affect the town.

armlx · Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:09 am

I'm not sure if this is just him being scum or him being vindictive due to me calling him out for being an idiot.

kuribo · Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:33 am

armlx wrote:I'm not sure if this is just him being scum or him being vindictive due to me calling him out for being an idiot.

Yeah, but look at some of the other stuff he's tried to push.

armlx · Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:52 am

kuribo wrote:
armlx wrote:I'm not sure if this is just him being scum or him being vindictive due to me calling him out for being an idiot.
Yeah, but look at some of the other stuff he's tried to push.

True.

Still think Wall-E is the OBV lynch today.

Surye · Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:54 am

armlx wrote:
kuribo wrote:
armlx wrote:I'm not sure if this is just him being scum or him being vindictive due to me calling him out for being an idiot.
Yeah, but look at some of the other stuff he's tried to push.
True.

Still think Wall-E is the OBV lynch today.

My question is why Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby, farside22 doesn't think so.

armlx · Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:04 am

My question is why Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby, farside22 doesn't think so.

How many of those have posted relevantly since the issue came up?

Answer is 2. SL, who has agreed with the lynch and is holding off the vote, and farside, currently voting xtoxm.

Surye · Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:05 am

armlx wrote:
My question is why Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby, farside22 doesn't think so.
How many of those have posted relevantly since the issue came up?

Answer is 2. SL, who has agreed with the lynch and is holding off the vote, and farside, currently voting xtoxm.

Kinda my point

Xtoxm · Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:27 am

Half of them need replacing.