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[Shirou]

Fire my entire town lean pool has been confirmed/flipped town

sorry I meant 3/4

[Firebringer]

I want to check penguin the most.

Fire my entire town lean pool has been confirmed/flipped town

It could be but am I really just wrong on PP I don't think so

I think a check on [freedom/herta/kowah] helps

everyone

the most. To be substantially useful your checks kinda need to be someone that we all suspect...

im going to do it randomly. i would have to be very comfortable with penguin to completely take him out. if u want ot try to convince me he is super unlikely scum. I am all ears.

[redFF]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

[Shirou]

if u want ot try to convince me he is super unlikely scum. I am all ears.

Hmmm

"super" may be too much, but I'll think about doing it or not in the weekend, now gotta sleep.

goodnight.

[PenguinPower]

I want to check penguin the most.

Stahl…You’re going to make the others jealous.

[PenguinPower]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I feel like you aren’t actually reading the game if you have me in there.

[Shirou]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

[Firebringer]

okay well im going to sleep

i agree with shirou on elimming in the PRs.

[Firebringer]

I want to check penguin the most.

Stahl…You’re going to make the others jealous.

U better have snacks inside when I visit you. Or else!

[Shirou]

There's basically at least one confirmed scum in the PRs in my view

Does anyone believe the setup is something like (removing all loud/announcing stuff just for the raw idea of power)

Town Actionable Innocent Child
Town JOAT (1-shot Neapolitan + 1-shot Tracker)
Town Lazy Hider
Town Novice Follower
Town Loyal Visitor
Town Watcher
Town Motion Detector
Town Voyeur
VT (Me)
VT (Andante)
VT (Gryff)

Mafia Ninja
Mafia ??? (PP?)
Mafia ??? (Kowah?)

That's...in fact 14 people, so there's gotta be scum in the PRs no matter what if Andante/me are both town. Even if we try to assume both Kowah and PP are scum, it still gives us that there's at least one scum in the PRs.

[PenguinPower]

I want to check penguin the most.

Stahl…You’re going to make the others jealous.

U better have snacks inside when I visit you. Or else!

I have roasted garlic triscuits and homemade hummus.

[Kowahbunga]

I think there's 2 scum in the PRs, and 1 is claiming VT. I think it's very likely the loud is the key to it all. Like they're probably compulsive and have to visit so they can't risk being VT. Plus I think it's like 6 VTs to 7 PRs, and that Neapolitan shot that Klick had makes me think there's a large pool of VTs.

[Freedom]

That's...in fact 14 people, so there's gotta be scum in the PRs no matter what if Andante/me are both town. Even if we try to assume both Kowah and PP are scum, it still gives us that there's at least one scum in the PRs

True.
TBH I feel like gera has the highest chance out of the PR claims due to his eod interactions with Klick.
VOTE: gera

[Andante]

Hey Freedom, what made you watch Klick last night?

[redFF]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

ok

[Freedom]

Hey Freedom, what made you watch Klick last night?

I answered in 1719.

[Andante]

Hey Freedom, what made you watch Klick last night?

I answered in 1719.

What about Klick felt particularly town? It's easy to look at a dead town and call them obv town, I'd like more on this, since it sounds like Klick was your *strongest* TR??

[Andante]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

why do we HAVE to lim in PRs? This feels like an odd way to start the day, like "here's the claims" "ok now we HAVE to lim in the PRs"

[Freedom]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

why do we HAVE to lim in PRs? This feels like an odd way to start the day, like "here's the claims" "ok now we HAVE to lim in the PRs"

Are you suggesting we eliminate in VTs instead?
Because you know that at least one PR has to be scum if Shirou and you are trueclaiming.

[Freedom]

And if Firebringer is trueclaiming.

[Freedom]

Hey Freedom, what made you watch Klick last night?

I answered in 1719.

What about Klick felt particularly town? It's easy to look at a dead town and call them obv town, I'd like more on this, since it sounds like Klick was your *strongest* TR??

His posts felt genuine and conveyed an intention to scumhunt.

[Andante]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

why do we HAVE to lim in PRs? This feels like an odd way to start the day, like "here's the claims" "ok now we HAVE to lim in the PRs"

Are you suggesting we eliminate in VTs instead?
Because you know that at least one PR has to be scum if Shirou and you are trueclaiming.

I’m suggesting that we don’t focus solely on claims, but rather how these people have been playing, my gut reaction is “cool, just ignore PRs, they’ll sort themselves out” I just find it odd others are having the gut reaction of “MUST LIM IN PRS TODAY” like hello? if this ninja does exist, do we really think it’s an existing PR claim? “hello I’m ninja and I announce my visits!!” cause our watcher is useless if we have a ninja, I’m surprised you’re supporting the lim in PRs cause you’re the only one ninja is confirmed to? like based on your reply to me you don’t seem interested limming in VTs?

[Andante]

I don’t think I got to my point, I think it’s dumb to divide this into PR/ not PR, like certain people have just been significantly scummier than others, and if your slot hasn’t done anything all game, you’re in the scum pool too, until you seem towny

[Freedom]

feel like its penguin or kow for lim today

I'm sorry but there's

no way

we aren't limming in the PRs. It can't be all town. It's literally a broken setup no matter how much you try to balance if those claims are all town.

It's a question of who is lying to me...

why do we HAVE to lim in PRs? This feels like an odd way to start the day, like "here's the claims" "ok now we HAVE to lim in the PRs"

Are you suggesting we eliminate in VTs instead?
Because you know that at least one PR has to be scum if Shirou and you are trueclaiming.

I’m suggesting that we don’t focus solely on claims, but rather how these people have been playing, my gut reaction is “cool, just ignore PRs, they’ll sort themselves out” I just find it odd others are having the gut reaction of “MUST LIM IN PRS TODAY” like hello? if this ninja does exist, do we really think it’s an existing PR claim? “hello I’m ninja and I announce my visits!!” cause our watcher is useless if we have a ninja, I’m surprised you’re supporting the lim in PRs cause you’re the only one ninja is confirmed to? like based on your reply to me you don’t seem interested limming in VTs?

I don't think I've ever said I'm unwilling to vote VTs?
It's just that as Shirou pointed out, the PRs can't all be pure.
Even if we assume majority of scum are in the VT claims, that still leaves at least one non-VT slot being scum.
That is unless you don't trust Firebringer and you're saying that you/Shirou aren't confirmed in the slightest.

[geraintm]

I believe there's one additional thing in favor of scum!Geraint aside from the fact he at some point assumed you got no movement on him and then changed it:

Voyeur is the role that makes the most sense to be scum here in my opinion. With so many Loud roles, it's easy to get a sense of who visited who from dayplay, so for example:

If a voyeur had targeted me at night 1, and assuming Fire is telling the truth, by N2 they should know that Fire is a investigate PR as long as I said a simply "Fire visited me" or so commentary. It's relatively easy to hunt PRs here with voyeur due to announcing/loud modifiers.

I at no point thought he got no movement on me. I knew he would have, hence me saying early day 2 when he thought I could be scum that I knew why he would think that.