Mini Theme 2290: Open ChatGPT - Game Over

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.07

Grandpa Mo (2)-

Menalque, Dei Ex Machina

KittyTacky (0)-

Morning Tweet (0)-

Dei Ex Machina (0)-

Defective Agency (1)-

imaginality

Doctor Drew (1)-

narrow parking

narrow parking (0)-

Titus (0)-

Porkens (2)-

KittyTacky, Titus

Menalque (1)-

Bloodb0t

imaginalty (2)-

Defective Agency, Doctor Drew

Bloodb0t (2)-

Grandpa Mo, biancospino

biancospino (0)-

Not Voting (2)-

Porkens, Morning Tweet

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2023-02-27 02:00:00)

- Feb 27th 02:00 GMT

[Doctor Drew]

Spoiler: 1

@BloodB0t, the way that chess game shows pieces in the wrong places is like some demonic incestuous offspring of chess, checkers and time travel. If the intent is to gain advantage by making everyone else's heads ache then job done!

@

Drew not sure I'd go as far as policy limming a hydra

, but I do like the idea of putting hydras under pressure early as I always find them hard to read.

VOTE: Defective Agency

Positioning himself as reasonable

Spoiler: 2

My vote on the hydra was rvs in that I didn't have any reason to vote them based on play (it was page 1!) but motivated in that I dislike playing with hydras. I just find them hard to read (also because I generally don't know the meta of the players in them) plus some of them post too much.

So I figure seeing how they react to a wagon on them could help with reading them plus given the choice between catching a scum solo player and a scum hydra I'd rather the latter.

Never heard of Doctor Drew or the running joke.

I don't see posting chatGPT answers as copying Porkens' gimmick in this particular game (if Porkens does that in other games then it would be if someone does it there).

I am also staggered Defective Agency thought I was being serious with that chatGPT post or in general (until now).

I have a hard time believing they genuinely believed that. My vote stays.

Incredibly safe position to take as scum with the omgus. We're already opposing him, so he just accepts and cements that.

Spoiler: 3

The subplot where on one side, ChatGPT/Porkens says its suspicious for players to cast doubt on ChatGPT -- and on the other, bloodb0t finds Porkens suspicious for practically assimilatign with the AI, seems notable. I don't like bloodbot's repeated insistence against ChatGPT which feels ultimatley like a distraction to me. Like it mostly goes without saying that ChatGPT isn't exactly sherlock holms yet bloodb0t seems to feel the need to discredit it anyway. Poor learning model

On that front, some musings:

Do you think 96 is a direct neutral chatGPT output or is it
Porkens' own content in chatGPT style (perhaps rephrased by chatGPT), or chatGPT told to argue a specific view?

If it's the latter:

Do you think continuing to mix chatGPT and their own content (if Porkens were to continue to do so) is scummy, towny or NAI?

Bonus thought: compare and contrast playing using chatGPT as support (either for private discussion or for content generation) with playing in a hydra


Not really directed at anyone, just musing.

You could have these thoughts in an MD thread or pre-game. Much easier content to put out than your thoughts on other players.

Spoiler: 4

How many scums are we thinking because if it's 3 I've already found them all
Maybe not but I've got it down to [Dei Ex Machina, imaginality, narrow parking, Menalque, Porkens]

Should be 3 and one 3p, at least per the queue post.
Also, I somewhat disagree with that list. Are Dei there chiefly just because of their KT vote?

PE: god, that rap was awful

This was already clarified earlier in the thread (119). And Defective Agency has been following the thread, so the "how many scums are we thinking" in the post bianco quoted here seems like a deliberate attempt on DA's part to appear uninformed.

This is an attempt to get us for 'fake townslipping' which is a really superficial and reachy thing to push us for. I hadn't checked the setup or seen anywhere that it was 9/3/1.

So yeah, bit of a scumcase for you Dei Ex Machina.

My vote stays

-Mr. Glance

Not in the mood to wagon imaginality day 1 as that leads to people doing stupid shit

How so?

See last large theme. Too exhausted to explain.

So you can't be bothered to look up someone's meta that was conveniently linked to, but I have to find meta you allude to on my own?

Might have to put this sheep out to pasture.

[Titus]

Spoiler: 1

@BloodB0t, the way that chess game shows pieces in the wrong places is like some demonic incestuous offspring of chess, checkers and time travel. If the intent is to gain advantage by making everyone else's heads ache then job done!

@

Drew not sure I'd go as far as policy limming a hydra

, but I do like the idea of putting hydras under pressure early as I always find them hard to read.

VOTE: Defective Agency

Positioning himself as reasonable

Spoiler: 2

My vote on the hydra was rvs in that I didn't have any reason to vote them based on play (it was page 1!) but motivated in that I dislike playing with hydras. I just find them hard to read (also because I generally don't know the meta of the players in them) plus some of them post too much.

So I figure seeing how they react to a wagon on them could help with reading them plus given the choice between catching a scum solo player and a scum hydra I'd rather the latter.

Never heard of Doctor Drew or the running joke.

I don't see posting chatGPT answers as copying Porkens' gimmick in this particular game (if Porkens does that in other games then it would be if someone does it there).

I am also staggered Defective Agency thought I was being serious with that chatGPT post or in general (until now).

I have a hard time believing they genuinely believed that. My vote stays.

Incredibly safe position to take as scum with the omgus. We're already opposing him, so he just accepts and cements that.

Spoiler: 3

The subplot where on one side, ChatGPT/Porkens says its suspicious for players to cast doubt on ChatGPT -- and on the other, bloodb0t finds Porkens suspicious for practically assimilatign with the AI, seems notable. I don't like bloodbot's repeated insistence against ChatGPT which feels ultimatley like a distraction to me. Like it mostly goes without saying that ChatGPT isn't exactly sherlock holms yet bloodb0t seems to feel the need to discredit it anyway. Poor learning model

On that front, some musings:

Do you think 96 is a direct neutral chatGPT output or is it
Porkens' own content in chatGPT style (perhaps rephrased by chatGPT), or chatGPT told to argue a specific view?

If it's the latter:

Do you think continuing to mix chatGPT and their own content (if Porkens were to continue to do so) is scummy, towny or NAI?

Bonus thought: compare and contrast playing using chatGPT as support (either for private discussion or for content generation) with playing in a hydra


Not really directed at anyone, just musing.

You could have these thoughts in an MD thread or pre-game. Much easier content to put out than your thoughts on other players.

Spoiler: 4

How many scums are we thinking because if it's 3 I've already found them all
Maybe not but I've got it down to [Dei Ex Machina, imaginality, narrow parking, Menalque, Porkens]

Should be 3 and one 3p, at least per the queue post.
Also, I somewhat disagree with that list. Are Dei there chiefly just because of their KT vote?

PE: god, that rap was awful

This was already clarified earlier in the thread (119). And Defective Agency has been following the thread, so the "how many scums are we thinking" in the post bianco quoted here seems like a deliberate attempt on DA's part to appear uninformed.

This is an attempt to get us for 'fake townslipping' which is a really superficial and reachy thing to push us for. I hadn't checked the setup or seen anywhere that it was 9/3/1.

So yeah, bit of a scumcase for you Dei Ex Machina.

My vote stays

-Mr. Glance

Not in the mood to wagon imaginality day 1 as that leads to people doing stupid shit

How so?

See last large theme. Too exhausted to explain.

So you can't be bothered to look up someone's meta that was conveniently linked to, but I have to find meta you allude to on my own?

Might have to put this sheep out to pasture.

I'm a) not using meta to explain alignment and b) what I'm saying requires no thought or belief in meta. It's just facts that happened.

How did you go from sheeping me to "putting out to pasture"?

[Doctor Drew]

You vaguely say the Imaginalty wagon will lead to people doing stupid shit.

You don't say it because you believe they are town, but also don't offer up even a tiny bit of explanation to hate the wagon besides 'hey go look over there or something'.

And then when I have an an issue with this double standard, you redirect the heat to me?

[Titus]

You vaguely say the Imaginalty wagon will lead to people doing stupid shit.

You don't say it because you believe they are town, but also don't offer up even a tiny bit of explanation to hate the wagon besides 'hey go look over there or something'.

And then when I have an an issue with this double standard, you redirect the heat to me?

I didn't vaguely said it. I outright said it. That is explanation. I know he gets picked on as town. Does that make him town? No. So I didn't say that. I just don't give a shit for easy.

There is no double standard. One is a comparison of meta. The other is fact.

[Titus]

You also did a 180 which is frankly odd and telling.

Maybe Drew + Porkens.

[Doctor Drew]

You also did a 180 which is frankly odd and telling.

Maybe Drew + Porkens.

*eyeroll emoji*

Who, in their right mind, would believe that someone(me) would blindly follow someone(you) in all seriousness and not a joke. A joke I made in a previous game a few years back as well, about sheeping you(I don't expect you to remember every game we played in, but I thought you would at least understand the joke, or that at the very least I was being a bit cheeky).

And even with that, I said someone better make a damn good case on you, but you went ahead and exposed yourself now, and made the case for yourself.

VOTE: Titus

And who is picking on Imaginalty? And this is coming from someone who gets misread all the time, every game is different, they got unfairly attacked I assume from the large game you mentioned, how does that pertain to this game? You even said it was fact but not meta, so does that mean you slipped and actually know they are town here?

[Defective Agency]

Defective Agency (hydra of furtiveglance and Nancy Drew 39) - really cool, love the pfp
Dei Ex Machina (hydra of Aisa, Alianna, and RH9) - town
Doctor Drew - town
biancospino - town
Bloodb0t - town

GrandpaMo - towny energy so far, keep it up
Porkens - townlean
Menalque - townlean
KittyTacky - just bordering on +town contribution, but only just

Morning Tweet - muted so far, expecting more
Titus - sus but I'm not as sure as before

narrow parking - scum
imaginality - scum

I found the 4 scum guys, the game's over. Someone get the mod

-Mr. Glance (tired edition). Hydras rule

[Doctor Drew]

I mean, I do love the pfp

[Defective Agency]

Porkens is town. Unsure on Mo and Menalque so far

Grandpa go and read this game for some scum!Porkens

-Furtive G. Lance

No. Not doing meta. Sorry. Too tired in one game.

@Titus, you were in that game and it was relatively recent.

~Ms Drew

[Defective Agency]

I mean, I do love the pfp

I selected it.

~Ms Drew

[BloodB0t]

Titus sussing drew this way is so weird.

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

@DA why do you sus imaginality so hard? I'm still null on him atm.

I still haven't done my reread yet, starting now.

[GrandpaMo]

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

can we vote this?

[BloodB0t]

88 DEM +town

102 Imaginality +scum

I'm at p200 right now and I am starting to see why people were so sus on porkens. I was blinded by lulz. And yeah, porken's first nonGPT post 205 does look pretty scummy like just trying to see what sticks.

****

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

can we vote this?

+ town

my town is DEM, bianco, Drew, DA, Mo

[BloodB0t]

UNVOTE: Menalque

[GrandpaMo]

88 DEM +town

102 Imaginality +scum

I'm at p200 right now and I am starting to see why people were so sus on porkens. I was blinded by lulz. And yeah, porken's first nonGPT post 205 does look pretty scummy like just trying to see what sticks.

****

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

can we vote this?

+ town

my town is DEM, bianco, Drew, DA, Mo

can we pls vote this. this sounds like flailing scum

[GrandpaMo]

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

[BloodB0t]

can we pls vote this. this sounds like flailing scum

I knew you were gonna say that.

[biancospino]

Then why did you see the need to say that?

Can you name your top SRs?

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

Really theatrical statement right there, quite the suspense. Is there a reason you actually need to wait till the end of the day?

[BloodB0t]

I agree that I look like flailing scum and that it makes sense for Mo to think that.

I wanted to hear from imaginality on TRing me but he's my top scum right now, followed by Porkens. Slight scum on titus and narrowparking.

[Dei Ex Machina]

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

Really theatrical statement right there, quite the suspense. Is there a reason you actually need to wait till the end of the day?

I think Grandpa is probably reaction testing or luring the scum.
I don't really think that he'd do that as scum.
UNVOTE: Grandpa
~Janus

[GrandpaMo]

Then why did you see the need to say that?

Can you name your top SRs?

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

Really theatrical statement right there, quite the suspense. Is there a reason you actually need to wait till the end of the day?

lol i said my reason-- it will progress the game. Im just waiting for people who haven't talked since my prod

[GrandpaMo]

I agree that I look like flailing scum and that it makes sense for Mo to think that.

I wanted to hear from imaginality on TRing me but he's my top scum right now, followed by Porkens. Slight scum on titus and narrowparking.

so ur town reading people who scumread u and scumreading people who Townread u . got it

[BloodB0t]

I'm townreading the 2 people who started getting on my case after I started posting in a distracted/lazy state. That's also why I was saying my posts were bad, because I felt I wasn't giving this game enough attention. I'm probably not the best judge of what is a good or bad post but I felt bad about them.

I'm also townreading Drew and DA who were townreading me right? So your characterization isn't entirely accurate.

[GrandpaMo]

I'm townreading the 2 people who started getting on my case after I started posting in a distracted/lazy state. That's also why I was saying my posts were bad, because I felt I wasn't giving this game enough attention. I'm probably not the best judge of what is a good or bad post but I felt bad about them.

I'm also townreading Drew and DA who were townreading me right? So your characterization isn't entirely accurate.

so people u are twmownreading because u agree with their consensus on you that you aren't posting . thats ur being scumresd in the first place lol