Mini Normal 2289 - Postgame

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im here to shit post with Not Mafia

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Alchemist21, Vanilla Townie, executed Day 1
Frogsterking, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
Dionysus, Town Novice 1-Shot Vigilante, executed Day 2
Cat Scratch Fever, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2

lol wow things not looking good.

Ohh right i remember seeing this game and being like "ALchemist is in this game WOAH haven't palyed with him in ages. Wonder how he is doing"
and then yall elimmed him.

Pretty rude if u ask me.

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i literally was hoping penguin was scum here so i could just troll along. Do i need to be a hero and solve this game for yall

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What are yall even doing

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Brickwall/Dionysus/Enchant/NM makes 4 PR, is that too many?

depends on what scum have.

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i literally was hoping penguin was scum here so i could just troll along. Do i need to be a hero and solve this game for yall

Please bring woof to our useless heathen hearts

i will do so.
btw cephrir obligatory terrible question i hate so much but since ur always scum in games with me i gotta ask it:
Why should i think ur town this time?

if not feel free to tell me, i won't tell anyone. Might just help u out since ur the first to talk to me.

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Not refusing. Just don’t want to be the NK tonight. I’m a PR but my contributions are nil so essentially I sit here as a VT.

r u being stubborn because POWERROLE

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i have never seen a mini normal with more than 4 pr's

U have much to see.

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I have a lot of ai content in this game honestly. I challenge you to figure me out without being told the answers, that's how learning happens

honestly telling me to learn is pretty scummy.
Ill consider this scummy answer as townie for simplicity and the fact i enjoy you.

I THINK SCUM CEPHRIR WOULD KNOW I DONT LIKE READING

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i think brickwall is weak town from this small interaction im reading.
Maybe furtive is scum.

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damn cephrir telling me he had some goodd cutting jokes/witty remarks in the game makes me want to read.

IS THIS A TRICK!?!?!?

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I guess we might as well just claim at this point since we're already most of the way there

I'm Mafia Goon

fixed that friendo <3

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I dunno about lycanfire but ceph is probably scum because he always rolls scum

VOTE: cephrir

Very townie post by STD btw

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Maybe cephrir is town lol

I voted dionysus for funzies I dunno who the scum are yet at all I'm like the anti-frogster

Now im convinced of my joke scumread of Cephrir.
Its easiest to fool your loved ones after all

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did penguin claim?

I am a JOAT with 6 different possible actions:
1 strongman for performing night kills
1 ninja so you can't see me performing night kills
1 Roleblocker to stop u pesky townies from doing anything to us
1 Jailkeep to prevent that pesky vig from killing one of my allies
1 activated bulletproof to prevent me getting shot
1 Vengeful as soon as you try to kill me, i will kill one of you

Very good role if i do say so myself.

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True. I do need a buff or two.

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Not_Mafia (1): Eiralox
furtiveglance (1): Save The Dragons
Brickwalll (1): T3
T3 (1): Brickwalll

Not Voting (5): Not_Mafia, Enchant, Cephrir, PenguinPower, furtiveglance

gonna hipfire the scum team in this game:
Eiralox, Cephrir, Furtive.

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Not Mafia could always be scum.
I hope he isn't tho

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i believe Brickwall claim

That is one firm townread

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Ohhh Enchant role claim on surface looks like the most BS to me.

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WAIT STD AND T3 ARE MASONS!?!?!?!?!

SO MY GUT READ ON STD TOWN IS RIGHT

holy shit am i becoming pro at reading STD.

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Neapolitan + Vigilante just doesn't maek sense.
Thats like putting 2 cops in ur game.

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i guess the vigilante is 1 shot.
Still scum need a lot of power for a Neap + vigilante combo

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Fine.

It starts on N and ends on eapolitan.

I don't have any results for respectable reasons.

ENCHANT I WANT TO GRILL U. EXPAND ON THIS

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Get good imo

as a member of scum team i don't need to get good.

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I don't buy Brickwall's claim

VOTE: Brickwall

do you buy mine?

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I call on the dark arts. Alisae if you can hear my summoning call from beyond the reaches of space and time.

JOIN THIS GAME

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too bad u don't have any practice in the dark arts of summoning people.

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we should lecture futrive in the scum PT to shame him for his speciesist behavior

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not mafia not saying hi to me is a scum claim btw

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Hi Firebringer!

too late u already broke my heart

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cephrir on a scale of 1 to super cerial.
How serious should i take this game tbh

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i miss enchant

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im still sus of you but you're probably right

UNVOTE:

He’s wrong about my claim being fake, so proceed with furtive with caution…

wait do u townread STD now....

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im a mason

yeah buut like 2 seconds ago brickwall was saying u and t3 is scum. i don't see why ur claims would change his mind so rapidly

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11. Firebringer (Jester)

No im the JOAT with 6 abilities, u said u believed my claim enchant.

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look how scummy enchant is being with these changes of claims.

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i don't even understand whats going on right now.

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are you both now just arguing ur both town. I am dumbstruck by this.

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VOTE: save the dragon

i think std is town.
Why r u in a dichotomy of u vs either STD/T3.
Explain this like im an idiot.

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right i guess where im confused is why you took everyone saying they are masons as fact when u had a hard scumread and switched on a dime. It didn't feel like you really thought about it and could just be switching because you saw that as a lost path for you.

I guess im not seeing why you just trusted everyone thoughts they can't be fake claiming masons until i brought it up that was something i kind of expected town you to at least question, yet you didn't.

Just kind of strange from my perspective.

I am alos not sure how even if ur town and us elimming u means STD/T3 have to be scum. Gonna have to run by me this again.

I guess where i want in ur mind is what did u think scum team was before u thought ohh STD/T3 can't be scum everyone says thats impossible to now what ur scum team is if they are scum.

I don't think theres a world where STD/T3/Furtive makes sense and ive been here five minutes their interactions the last dozen of pages don't feel alignny to me at all.

Maybe i need to read isos.

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Where did I say I doubted you are masons?

UR VOTING HIM! IF THATS NOT DOUBT WHAT IS

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STD post is way funnier than mine. I concede this time in the funny wars.

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Nah, trust your reads. Certainly don’t be following me in this game. I would be happy if STD and T3 are masons, I will happily sheep their votes for the remainder of the game.

im not looking to sheep you.
I am trying to understand your positions and thoughts better.
They feel jumbled/confused and dissonant and its hard for me to process where ur going.

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Also why is no one bothering to try to engage with me to get a read on me. Did everyone have penguin on lock town or something.

No one has once called me scum/town or anything. I am very confused on where everyones position on my own slot is at .

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STD what is ur read on me.

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That’s because they are. I did my N2 action on CSF and they were NK’d so wasted action. My D3 scum reads are T3 and STD who then end up being masons so I am back at square one. But at this is happening I am the target so trying to get the target off me? If everyone is happy that they are masons I am happy to accept it.

But everyone could be way wrong.
Is this truly how town you thinks!?!?!?!

Cause I know I don't think like this at all.

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I am VT but is that really any shocker

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Fire penguin seemed town to me. It might be worth revealing your role at this point though

What do i have to do to turn this into a scumread?

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This post confuses me now? Why do you sound shocked that my read on STD changed so quickly when now you are saying that you think they are town and a mason. Isn’t it obvious that my read would change so quickly once they claimed mason, which it did?

my read on STD has nothing to do with his masons claim it only reinforces my belief he is town.

Ur switcheroo is completely dependent on his claim which to me is baffling.

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I do find the way STD "crumbed" to be very funny though. If i was scum i have done that where i find a random post in my iso and said "look how many letters are in this sentence" and been like that was crumb when it wasn't at all.

I don't think he did that, but i just find it humorous how he crumbed.

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also btw crumbing is stupid and people should stop doing it.

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How does everyone feel on Eiralox

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Where would you like me to put it?

Eiralox

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all of brickwall behavior is because he is stoned. We must wait till he is no longer stoned.

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What is your experience in mafia

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What is your experience in mafia

cmon Fire you know me :3

i can't give you any special treatment for this job interview

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I got a townread from furtiveglance I'm printing this out to frame on my wall unless he was just bad at counting

Why not both

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i feel like this is first game in a long ass time no one is hounding me to read the game from start till now.

Its both refreshing and speaks to how low effort everyone is feeling.

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i only want to read it to see ur funny posts and witty comments.
i doubt ur going to be glowing in town radiance!

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im loyal not faithful. I cheat all the time, but im doing it loyally.

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im very bothered in every vc yesterday mod didn't replace my name with penguins.
also mod didn't put in the role pm until after day started lol

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Role PM later.

WAIT THE MOD STILL DIDNT DO IT

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Never forgiven and never forget

naah but seriously thx mod

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std died and not me which probably suggests that i had bad reads?

i know cephrir is gonna cringe but i think this means its him.

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but i really think the team is Enchant/Cephrir/Not_Mafia at this point but i think thats lazy and Cephrir and enchant are really trying to do anti association this page for some reason.

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I think Cephrir and NM are scum with either Enchant or Firebringer. I'll vote with T3 today but I think the more interesting thing will be who other players motion towards voting.

its scary when i agree with furtive

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enchant ill counter ur ask of who is ur team with a "who is scum team to u" because u don't seem to consider cephrir.

Who is scum

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also if we get scum today and Not_Mafia doesn't die tomorrow protecting t3. we have to 100% elim him tomorrow

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enchant ill counter ur ask of who is ur team with a "who is scum team to u" because u don't seem to consider cephrir.

Who is scum

You+Ceph+Furtive

u don't even seem to scumread cephrir on this page my dude. Try again.

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T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.

i disagree with u on dragoneater but i am not really barking up that tree at second.
but i didn't include u so theres that while u include me.

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Sure thing

You+Ceph+Furtive

ur really bad at this

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if ur town i want u to stop half assing it

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im not gonna townread u for this whole "ohh well im just bad" schtick ur doing.

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u don't seem to get it, in ur world ur about to lose the game. And ur doing nothing to convince anyone of those 3 being scum. Ur not even acting like that is the team or u actually scumread any of them.
Its like a picking 3 random names and thats the team.

Show ur work ur lazy bum if u actually believe it so at least u don't get misyeeted.

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i literally just said there are other townies in this game u need to prove this too if u want to convince them.

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My prediction: Everyone gonna just stale before T3 finally decides to vote someone, and everyone sheep it.

i mean yeah i think that's the correct way to play this situation

Fuck that noise. I am going to vote way before T3

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i am about to vote enchant out of annyance and that is not good gonna take a thread break and come back and do the work

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Okay Enchant is town.
GLad we solved that

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could it be furtive/not_mafia/cephrir?

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why did u kill ur husband btw.
that was awfully evil of u

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apparently not mafia can't protect power roles anyways. he has to go at some point though

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4.01

Votecount 4.01

Firebringer (1): Enchant
Enchant (1): DragonEater70

Not Voting (5): T3, Not_Mafia, Cephrir, Firebringer, furtiveglance

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-03-04 15:29:46).

well the spicy thing about this is if both me and enchant are town here than scum have their choice of picking quick hammer when they organize in PT.

If enchant and dragoneater is only town same applies would just mean i have to coordinate with a scumteam to quick vote enchant.

spicy

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in enchant world its me + furtive + cephrir.
Im not voting him, and cephrir is online. So for his theory to hold up we are holding back quick voting because furtive is afk or something?

Hey enchant whats ur theory going on that

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T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.

i disagree with u on dragoneater but i am not really barking up that tree at second.
but i didn't include u so theres that while u include me.

Can I just say one thing? On D3 somebody asked me to explain my Brickwall townread and I started writing an explanation and then Enchant hammered and I was like wtf and ended up not submitting it. I was soooo upset.

to me ur the least likely scum in this game not named t3 but that doesn't mean townie.
not even a hard bar to clear but i don't find townie easy at this point.

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I still don't like you.

Rude

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Okay Enchant is town.
GLad we solved that

Can you explain your conclusion here?

Scum never quick vote in ELO.
Basic mafia rules.

I think even dumb scum enchant would play by these basics.

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the fact cephrir wanted to wait for T3 to make a conclusion on it being the "smart play" was pretty sus to me.

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is that true? i never noticed

how could u not notice that

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I am not sure why i should prove to you that you are mafia actually.

Well, fair point but then could you prove it to me or T3?

I am not fan of selftowncasing and i am terrible in it but i am obvious town and i am not sure how you fail to see so

He asking u to case me, not urself.

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If you was town and really believed i am town, you probably would care to ask Dragon to hold on.

Why would i care if u get misyeeted when ur being a moron

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cephrir ur like the smartest person still alive.
I DONT BELIEVE UR PRETENDING TO BE BIG DUMB

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Enchant i very much disapprove of ur play but respect u as a person.

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cephrir does telling anyone that ur town convince anyone their wrong.

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I actually don't have anything but my feelings

So do you scum Fire just for feelings?
Don't you think NM is likelier scum considering their awful hammers have helped scum more than town this game?

ur new here but Not_mafia always hammers as every alignment. It doesn't mean almost anything unfortunately.
He is probably scum but everyone knows he will always hammer

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i agree that you are town as shit

But you just said he's scum!

I'm so confused.

he is saying he isn't town because town aint shit.
i got the joke.

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cephrir does telling anyone that ur town convince anyone their wrong.

theres a first time for everything

ive had better luck telling people im scum tbh

i really want to play scum with u

been too long

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tbh if not mafia was town here that would be the play to make.
all three scum vote one player and wait for Not mafia to hammer

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CEPHRIR I NEVER ROLL SCUM.
ITS ANNOYING

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what is checking in going to do for u

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enchant we are ELO, and ur reasons for the scumteam u proposed is feelings.
r u going to get something out of a check in to change ur feelings on who the scum are.

that unvote serves no purpose if ur not rethinking things

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idk i am coward

fair enough

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ill be less cowardly

VOTE: Not Mafia

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gg

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missed furtive on that but not surprised i fucked it up.
didn't want to vote cephrir in case he was legit town.

Will get u next time cephrir

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How could u just kill STD
so evil of u to kill ur spouse like that

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enchant voting me really threw me through a loop. well done on that

the page before looked such like fake anti association and then i threw that out with what i thought was a legit town enchant reaction to voting me.

again well played.

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i know this is terrible self justification on voting not mafia.
but i probably would have voted not mafia in the next day anyways even if we got cephrir today.

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Again well played,

sorry town i wasn't the replacement in this game u deserved.
hope everyone had fun regardless of my bad vote.

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4.01

Votecount 4.01

Enchant (1): DragonEater70
Cephrir (1): Enchant

Not Voting (5): T3, Not_Mafia, Cephrir, Firebringer, furtiveglance

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-03-04 15:29:46).

i should have analyzed this deeper to figure out no one quick voting meant something but i just figured not mafia isn't on so they couldn't organize quick votes.

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Brickwall play yesterday was so confusing. I wonder if he is still high

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"FB is terminally online. This is a problem"

Meanwhile: Firebringer goes to the bathroom and comes back to see there was a hammer.

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not to blame the setup
but this setup was ridiculous lol

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I WAS WONDERING WHY U REPLACED BECAUSE EVEN I COULDNT GET THAT PENGUIN

I WAS HOPING U WERE SCUM AND U LET ME DOWN

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i think u would have handled this last day better than me though. Sorry u had to replace out

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furtive where were u trying to buddy me lol

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i know this is terrible self justification on voting not mafia.
but i probably would have voted not mafia in the next day anyways even if we got cephrir today.

IDK, I think if we voted out Enchant then Ceph we might've had NM die during the night protecting one of us and then that would leave Furtive. But this quickhammer coordinated strat is fucking annoying and gamey.

True, this is my bad. I was holding out on hope that i was wrong on Cephrir. I really didn't want to elim towncephrir today

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i was ready to end it. lol

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I just thought i could unvote fast enough.
I had one prepared

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Penguin can i report the scum team for voting when i go to the bathroom. I think they used hacks to spy on me to know i was in the loo

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Penguin can i report the scum team for voting when i go to the bathroom. I think they used hacks to spy on me to know i was in the loo

I’ll investigate this immediately.

this is why ur the best bird

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Nice try enchant, but i know it was actually cephrir watching me.

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how did i legit let enchant vote me while he is claiming neopolitan slip by again.
I must be high. That looked like such a town reaction to me with his vote on me but he had zero reasons for the scum team and his scumteam looked rng

HE DIDNT EVEN TREAT CEPHRIR LIKE HE WAS SCUM

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page 82 is some of the worst scum threatre i have ever seen!!!

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how did i legit let enchant vote me while he is claiming neopolitan slip by again.
I must be high. That looked like such a town reaction to me with his vote on me but he had zero reasons for the scum team and his scumteam looked rng

HE DIDNT EVEN TREAT CEPHRIR LIKE HE WAS SCUM

The funny thing is each of the scum was accusing the other 2 scum (Enchant's scumteam included furtive and ceph, Furtive's 2128 was saying both Enchant and Ceph were scum), and they somehow got away with it.

not that shocking. thats how i played my last scum game with my teammates.
usually u would try to find the common denominator in them which i think is enchant which i didn't do.

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Anyways,
Alchemist i hope i get to play with u again sometime. Legit wish i came in when u were around on day 1. Miss playing with you.

Cephrir i will have my revenge. I hope i roll scum against u next time or we roll it together. if we are together i will buss u to high heven as my revenge

Enchant i am taking away ur wizard license
Furtive i didn't see u coming at end, good work.

STD ur posts were best

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Alianna who is in that game?

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Alianna who is in that game?

me...on my alt

Sold

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not to blame the setup
but this setup was ridiculous lol

how so?

Psychologist doesn't work with this setup.
Simple part of bg doesn't work either.

And there shouldn't have been a vanilla cop.

It was scumsided, but it wasn't the reason town lost.

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i think setup should have been like:

3 goons
novice 1 shot vigi
2 masons
1 bg
rest vanilla townies

vanilla cop given to help find prs is not needed and weakening bg serves only to weaken town for a setup that isn't very strong imo to begin with.
and i don't know what u expect pscyhologist to do

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BG is in no way good imo but w/e

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Suicide Bomber

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BG is in no way good imo but w/e

You're right, I was thinking of that role that dies but also kills the killer. What's that called here?

ive heard something like this being called elite bodyguard but i haven't seen it used in like. 8 years

ohh if he is talking about a bg who takes out the attempted killer with him, ive literally never seen that