In post 488, kuribo wrote:
But sure you can pretend otherwise if it gets you out of this
This is what I mean kuribo
That's not fence sitting, I catch scum by waiting for them to come at me and then interacting with them. And I've been wondering if you and SAS was you being scum caught for the wrong reason
Of course you'll probably claim OMGUS but that's because you've never seen how many times I've caught scum by waiting for them to turn their attention to me.
In post 496, Alisae wrote:
PB what does Kuribo have to gain by doing that play? What makes the potential gains of making this play better than the potential gains of like, not posting. If he's a wolf I doubt he even cares about the information he's asking for.
Why would Kuribo need to make a stance mid investigation.
Placing his vote in case the wagon gets to E-1 and nobody finish the job; calling them town in case the wagon staggers/lose traction.
kuribo doesn't read the future, he couldn't know both Wave and me would vote Amici.
In post 492, kuribo wrote:
"I want your reads" was a demand under threat of my vote. I wanted their reads on record.
Yes, but you had your chance for asking for their reads before
Sure, and so did anyone else but for some reason nobody thought to
You're throwing shade at me because I asked a player about to be eliminated for their reads so that we'd have them if they flipped scum? That's so weird.
I'm not throwing shade, I said that you were part of my scumreads and you asked why.
In post 496, Alisae wrote:
PB what does Kuribo have to gain by doing that play? What makes the potential gains of making this play better than the potential gains of like, not posting. If he's a wolf I doubt he even cares about the information he's asking for.
Why would Kuribo need to make a stance mid investigation.
Placing his vote in case the wagon gets to E-1 and nobody finish the job; calling them town in case the wagon staggers/lose traction.
kuribo doesn't read the future, he couldn't know both Wave and me would vote Amici.
Fencesitting, that's what I'm saying.
but...no???
I think if Kuribo was going to place a vote he would place a vote. I don't think he would even bother I think he would just find a reason to get on and go for it I think. I mean even if he did this it doesn't really help him w/ wincon. Maybe if he it plays it well and looks townie for it but like idunno I'm not sure I buy this
In post 496, Alisae wrote:
PB what does Kuribo have to gain by doing that play? What makes the potential gains of making this play better than the potential gains of like, not posting. If he's a wolf I doubt he even cares about the information he's asking for.
Why would Kuribo need to make a stance mid investigation.
Placing his vote in case the wagon gets to E-1 and nobody finish the job; calling them town in case the wagon staggers/lose traction.
kuribo doesn't read the future, he couldn't know both Wave and me would vote Amici.
Fencesitting, that's what I'm saying.
There was literally someone stating intent to hammer, an E-1 is essentially an elimination at that point
You have the wrong idea about me if you think this is a bad game of mine. We have played together one time before this one and it was probably my best town game ever. And it was 2 years ago.
I would be embarrassed for you if you were actually town here
I really want to agree here.
What I really think sells me on this hammer coming from a wolf is that it contradicts what PB said earlier as well as it also just came out of nowhere. Not to mention the crickets afterwards. Usually the way wolves hammer is they do it out of nowhere with no hint of even wanting to do it.
UNVOTE:
I don't want to be responsible for day end.
In post 505, Stephen A Smith wrote:
quickhammering Amici when most of the game hadn't even expressed a read one way or another is atrocious
Like, I think Amici was going to get hammered regardless ya. If it wasn't PB it was probably Kokichi (whom I TR). PB's hammer to me just screams wolf and I feel obligated to seek out PB's flip not only because of it as well as the fact he was cw
ok so it's not like impossible for pb and kuribo to be wolf v wolf here. Like this could be a planned bus. Kuribo and PB are definitely capable of planning something like this.
Do I think it is?
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
No, not right now.
I would much rather want to clear Kuribo until F5 if PB flips wolf.
In post 505, Stephen A Smith wrote:
quickhammering Amici when most of the game hadn't even expressed a read one way or another is atrocious
Like, I think Amici was going to get hammered regardless ya. If it wasn't PB it was probably Kokichi (whom I TR). PB's hammer to me just screams wolf and I feel obligated to seek out PB's flip not only because of it as well as the fact he was cw
Ali at this point you're just over explaining yourself.
Why would I as a wolf quickhammer if Kokichi already stated intent? Your defense on kuribo is applicable to me as well but you just want to justify a wolfread on me.
And I wasn't a real counterwagon, I had two RVS votes on me.
In post 520, Pink Ball wrote:
And I wasn't a real counterwagon, I had two RVS votes on me.
not true.
I think you would want to quickhammer to try to end day as soon as possible and why wait on someone else when you can do it right. It's not like if you didn't go for the quickhammer and let kokichi go for it the pressure is completely off of you going into the next day phase.
-- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
