Micro 1071: MafiaInFreezer v2023 (Game Over)

[Wavelength]

VOTE: Cakez

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[SirCakez]

I think that Cakez's last page of posts was markedly worse then the rest of the game, and I no longer have any qualms about killing him.

How?

[Wavelength]

Three most egregious, imo are:

Please don't hammer me without letting me claim ty

Why would I make this game so difficult for myself if I was scum here
I could have literally just RVSed like normal and jumped on the Kilga train or some shit

Is this implying that Kilga is town

Idk but anyone else limmed > me no? I learned that in that break the chain game where I let myself die to save a strong townread who ended being scum >.>

Why did you make it "difficult" as town then?

I wanted to try something different and see what would happen

You know I am not going to survive to LyLo I will surely be limmed or vigged by then.

[That last one is missing the possibility of being night killed at some point before Elo for being a claimed tracker lmao)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Wavelength

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i got cold feet what can i say

[Lady Lambdadelta]

watch me chirp

[Wavelength]

Come on, at least let me bus first, smh

[SirCakez]

Three most egregious, imo are:

Please don't hammer me without letting me claim ty

Why would I make this game so difficult for myself if I was scum here
I could have literally just RVSed like normal and jumped on the Kilga train or some shit

Is this implying that Kilga is town

Idk but anyone else limmed > me no? I learned that in that break the chain game where I let myself die to save a strong townread who ended being scum >.>

Why did you make it "difficult" as town then?

I wanted to try something different and see what would happen

You know I am not going to survive to LyLo I will surely be limmed or vigged by then.

[That last one is missing the possibility of being night killed at some point before Elo for being a claimed tracker lmao)

The last bit - I did think about that and I discarded it because I really don't think I'm going to actually survive to the point scum would NK me bc people do not trust me

[SirCakez]

Don't even know what your other issues are

[notscience]

You know what I’ll just cut to the chase

You are saying that you were busy and that’s why you weren’t playing the game like you weren’t doing the same shit to me lmao

And you claim you’ve been pushing me but you just like, haven’t lol

[notscience]

I’m also confused by the wavelength vote bc I thought you were saying they were partnered LLD

[Kilgamayan]

Uh oh it's bedpost (lol get it) time

UNVOTE: Wavelength

Don't feel remotely comfortable leaving that there. The actual verbal posting comes across very much like a townie that feels they're on to something.

VOTE: Ydrasse

Looking back on it now, post 134's content and timing doesn't square at all with what appears to be a serious vote for me in 35. There was more to talk about regarding me by the time 134 rolled around - why not spend any time chiming in on it when you're already voting me?

i barely paid attention to this game so far and the cakez thing was the most recent posting

This implies that you didn't care about the state of your vote, which is Townless Behavior

Like I can understand and appreciate not having much time to play but I feel like a town player in your slot would be prioritizing "hey, that person I placed a serious (or at least semi-serious) vote on has been tussling with some other peeps, what's up with that" over responding to someone completely unrelated to your serious (or at least semi-serious) vote

[SirCakez]

You know what I’ll just cut to the chase

You are saying that you were busy and that’s why you weren’t playing the game like you weren’t doing the same shit to me lmao

And you claim you’ve been pushing me but you just like, haven’t lol

Okay but you didn't say you were busy you just made illogical posts that didn't convey anything

And yes I need to put some evidence together and I will

[Kilgamayan]

Cakez if you are town you should probably focus on casing !science like you said you were going to because the longer you spend responding to new posts instead of casing !science the more it looks like you're struggling to case !science

Normally I wouldn't post something as explicit as this but it's been long enough that even now producing a case against !science is not going to make me discount that it took at least this long to get there

[Wavelength]

I watched you go from Hinting at a PR, to Claiming a PR, to actively leveraging the idea that you should live in order for your PR to go off tonight in the span of a page.

Spoiler:

You're just going to waste a PR

In 196 - your response to the first of Dunn's questions, your answer goes abstract instead of actually talking about this game.

Your second response to 196 Dunn appears to be that you were purposefully acting scummier early on, to "See what happens" which I find hard to believe to be true.

There is no room in your engagement with LLD that she might be scum here. Like, this is the language you use to talk to someone you know is town.

Spoiler:

Okay but what is killing me here accomplishing? You know I am not going to survive to LyLo I will surely be limmed or vigged by then. Right now you aren't even giving me a chance to get going in this game you just decided I was scum from three posts and haven't really done anything else since. You're just going to waste a PR and be no closer to solving this game.

That's why I called it a lame read because it doesn't even feel like you're trying

And sure, I guess it is reasonable to think you might not be a night 1 priority given the reads on you. But you are supposedly a town invest, who just had to announce that you are a town invest Day 1, and you have discounted whole cloth that scum might kill you at some point before elo. When that is the reason town invests don't claim Day 1.

I find it hard to see a real tracker not having a hint of "well shit, they forced me to claim" rattling around in their mind not even 20 minutes after being forced to claim.

[SirCakez]

I'll be back later on my comp I've been posting on my phone this whole time so that's why the notsci stuff hasn't come back yet

[SirCakez]

Also Kilga you're not even going to bother to respond what I wrote about your posts?

[Dunnstral]

Why would I make this game so difficult for myself if I was scum here
I could have literally just RVSed like normal and jumped on the Kilga train or some shit

Is this implying that Kilga is town

What I actually meant with this post is that it seemed SirCakez was under the assumption that Kilga was town here.

I read it as if SirCakez was mafia, they would have joined the Kilga wagon, and I am wondering if this is assuming that Kilga is a member of the town that would be a miselimination in SirCakez scenario.

Shortly after I made this post I reconsidered and thought that the above was a bit of a stretch. With that said I'm not sure what scenario SirCakez is speaking from when they respond to me: them as hypothetical mafia or them as town. That is to say, are they saying anyone over them if they were mafia or just in general.

I think that SirCakez not considering that they could be killed is a bigger strike against them.

[Dunnstral]

Coincidentally PYP just ended so I can talk about how I pushed a tracker claim day 1 in that game and they ended up being town. However, the argument for leaving them alive was that they would self resolve somehow, and that never happened - they ended up being miseliminated on day 4 or so while the town spent the time until then thinking they were mafia the whole time, And I think it would have been better to have eliminated them earlier in that game.

Maybe this being a micro makes things different. Tracker is a stronger role in a smaller setup. A mafia tracker isn't impossible though.

[SirCakez]

I can't even remember the last time I was night killed. It literally never happens unless it's like a vig.

[Dunnstral]

Do you not think claiming tracker will get you killed?

[SirCakez]

No because I think I'm going to get limmed at some point anyways
You literally just talked about a day 1 tracker claim that ended up getting limmed because everyone thought they were mafia
Sounds like the exact same situation here

[Syryana]

Still pretty happy with my vote. Cakez never dies in this setup if scum have any kind of blocking power.

i got cold feet what can i say

why

[notscience]

My kingdom for a notsci case

[GuyInFreezer]

Bump