This doesn't make any sense in reality and you know that.
huh? why is that?
Do your ass an ISO read and you'll see that StD and Vanderscamp agree like, once. Vanderscamp calls StD's reaction good and then most of their interactions are disagreements, Vander including StD in solve lists for Kira/Followers, and by the end during twilight just openly saying that he thinks StD is a Follower to a lying Kira!Mala. They have zero synergy, yet nor are they keeping distance.
which means they've been avoiding each other almost as much as vanderscamp has been avoiding you
and you're defending std which you probably have no reason to as kira
so you're either a townie or a follower and std is kira?
Do you not know the difference between avoidance/distancing and actively vouching that your Kira is scum? Vander's play makes zero fucking sense as a Follower to StD.
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In post 1955, Gimli wrote:
hpe is trying to limbat so hard here black, that's my impression anyway.
In post 1956, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Gimli is very blatantly and openly trying to do anything he can to confuse town and get them off him, how can you not see this?
This doesn't make any sense in reality and you know that.
huh? why is that?
Do your ass an ISO read and you'll see that StD and Vanderscamp agree like, once. Vanderscamp calls StD's reaction good and then most of their interactions are disagreements, Vander including StD in solve lists for Kira/Followers, and by the end during twilight just openly saying that he thinks StD is a Follower to a lying Kira!Mala. They have zero synergy, yet nor are they keeping distance.
Yeah Vander has 0 consistency with StD, flipping being town to being scum, you right in a follower engaging the most with Kira/actively distancing from Kira, flipping between engagement/distance makes 0 sense, especially when flipping reads
I think I struck a nerve when I brought up std and hpe's reaction was very telling, I don't think it reacts like that to anyone else being brought up here unless it feels the need to defend that slot. that's why I think hpe telegraphed std as kira, and I really do think std has been just scummy the entire game but I think that of him every game...
if you all prefer hpe that's fine but I don't think so atm.
In post 1959, Gimli wrote:
I think I struck a nerve when I brought up std and hpe's reaction was very telling, I don't think it reacts like that to anyone else being brought up here unless it feels the need to defend that slot. that's why I think hpe telegraphed std as kira, and I really do think std has been just scummy the entire game but I think that of him every game...
if you all prefer hpe that's fine but I don't think so atm.
Struck a nerve? Need to defend that slot? No you're just being incredibly obvious in what you're trying to do, and that's redirecting pressure on you to literally anyone else.
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In post 432, Gimli wrote:
if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:
1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right
im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
In post 1961, Save The Dragons wrote:
i kinda think hpe would have tried to strike down any slot you suggested, you just happened to pick me
either you're kira and hpe is pure and it is correct and wants to lim you
or hpe is kira and is trying hard to lim you specifically because that's its plan for looking townie
im having trouble seeing other possibilities
we can both be town, one of us can be a follower and the other town. show me your work on how you can have this POE of two people as possible kira. can't be kokichi, can't be meg, can't be not_mafia?
In post 1876, Save The Dragons wrote:
it could also be an attempt at distancing, the follower not trying to alert HPE that they're a follower, but trying to separate themselves and make it look like, in the event they got caught, that HPE wasn't kira.
This is how I feel. If we think Vander was signaling to his Kira all game then Kira is Gimli. If we think Vander tried to avoid his Kira all game then it's HPE
The whole case of HPE being Kira predicates on the assumption that Vander distances himself away from Kira
pedit: I'm with STD, it's even a town mindset to see why std as Kira when Vander is the follower doesn't make sense
I see HPE pursuing a 1 v 1 as Kira/town
If HPE is a follower then it does have an incentive to go against you to shield Kira but Gimli also has an incentive to pin the blame on someone else as Kira if he's Kira
In post 432, Gimli wrote:
if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:
1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right
im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
YOU ARE OVERTHINKING THIS SO BADLY
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In post 1962, Black wrote:
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
my idea on HPE there was specifically being kawaii's follower, cause of that post where it was defending him but it wasn't defending him that looked like crazy word salad talk, and I thought she gained a lot of equity specifically as kawaii's follower there.
I think if you wanna look at my d1 through lens of hpe being my kira you can certainly make the case for it. I do suggest you understand why I'm saying her behaviour now makes more sense as follower than as kira, because the reality is that I'm town and I'm trying to convey pure towny thoughts to you.
In post 1962, Black wrote:
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
my idea on HPE there was specifically being kawaii's follower, cause of that post where it was defending him but it wasn't defending him that looked like crazy word salad talk, and I thought she gained a lot of equity specifically as kawaii's follower there.
I think if you wanna look at my d1 through lens of hpe being my kira you can certainly make the case for it. I do suggest you understand why I'm saying her behaviour now makes more sense as follower than as kira, because the reality is that I'm town and I'm trying to convey pure towny thoughts to you.
"Pure towny thoughts" is an interesting smokescreen for the stunt you're trying to pull. It is actively driving this one insane how no one sees how so so blatant this play is.
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In post 1961, Save The Dragons wrote:
i kinda think hpe would have tried to strike down any slot you suggested, you just happened to pick me
either you're kira and hpe is pure and it is correct and wants to lim you
or hpe is kira and is trying hard to lim you specifically because that's its plan for looking townie
im having trouble seeing other possibilities
we can both be town, one of us can be a follower and the other town. show me your work on how you can have this POE of two people as possible kira. can't be kokichi, can't be meg, can't be not_mafia?
It's possible that kokichi/meg/not_mafia is Kira, but how likely? Give me a Kira case on all 3 of them
I want you to give the 3 Kira cases on what indicates them to be Kira and I want HPE to give a P0E case as to why Kira is only you/HPE