Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Alisae]

I feel like Columbo finding the final puzzle piece and putting all of the pieces together

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what's the solution then

[SirCakez]

Votecount 4.1

Stephen A Smith (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, Lady Lambdadelta
Lady Lambdadelta (1) - Stephen A Smith

Not voting (4) -

Alisae

, Wavelength, Pink Ball, Flea the Magician

(expired on 2023-03-23 13:40:00) remain until day end

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

it's not ELO. huh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

doesn't that confirm there's 1 scum inside the dream realm?

[Alisae]

LLD what alignment do you think PB is?

[Pink Ball]

@LLD would Claw resolve in MELo?

Technically if LLD is town the Claw shouldn't work or it would be the same as being at ELo: scum would coordinate and eliminate the one who's being voted. But given the shenanigans of this game, I could target scum the next night and the game wouldn't be over

[Alisae]

PB why are you posting that?

[Alisae]

wait i'm misreading the 2nd quote/not really understanding what you're doing with that post

[Pink Ball]

I’m saying that we should be wary nonetheless

[Alisae]

What's your read on LLD?

[Pink Ball]

Town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm asking Cakez

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cakez says MELO and ELO not the same for this purpose.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So we could infact be in MELO

[Lady Lambdadelta]

okay, so

My ability turns off in ELO, defined as "if Town eliminates, town no longer has majority"

I asked Cakez to define majority, it was defined as "town>not town"

I asked Cakez to define town in the case, it was defined as "the role PM in the example PM, Green Role PM = Town, all else=Not Town"

sooooooooo we have no third parties.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

because if we had a third party, were we to eliminate town today, town would no longer hold a majority

where as if town eliminated town with 4:2, they DO still hold majority, if only for a night phase moment. (3:2)

so we're either 4:1:1 rn or we're 4:2 rn.

[Pink Ball]

Let’s tread lightly then, because even if I can stop scum’s nightkill, if there’s actually a redirector I think it’s over with a town elimination today

[Alisae]

LLD what alignment do you think PB is?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD what alignment do you think PB is?

at this point the mechanics are sort of unclear.

Does scum really have THAT ABILITY which from my PoV is 100% proven

AND Maru's Janitor shot?

AND the Redirector/Rolestopper whatever thing is going on there?

Feels like too much player removal and control.

Here's the thing. Someone has been doing these things, and there are a LOT of provable roles night roles.

I wonder if PB's action stops players from doing night actions? Like, if they're in the dream can they interact with scum?

At this point PB sort of has to be town MAYBE third party but if PB is third party, we're 4:1:1 and PB has swallowed a scum for us.

Which means we never kill PB today. PB's either Third party and we don't need to worry about it or PB's town and we need to worry but not about PB.

The only argument for killing PB today would be if killing PB freed the people in the dream, but that is -1 +2 -1 for Neutral.

So we'd flip PB if that happens, PB would be third party or town, and then a townie dies and we go to 4-2 one more time but now with PP and Kokichi.

[Pink Ball]

So what you're saying is if we elim wolves today the game is over

If PP is scum, yes, it should be!

If PP is scum, yes, it should be!

Got corrected about this: if I got the last scum in my neighbor, they could technically win if I get killed or if I release them

PB,If the game does not end when there are no scum in the main thread, and you are town, how do we ever win this game if you have scum in your hood?

If the whole scumteam is not dead then the game isn’t over. We can’t know who’s scum until they flip, so if I got the remaining scum in the dream dimension, only way to win is by me killing them or releasing them and then eliminating.

Game is designed in a way that we’re not getting a draw, and we should be able to realize if I got scum caught in my PT

[Alisae]

Hey LLD and PB.
Here is a list of everyone's claims.
What stands out to you guys?

Kokichi makes someone's actions unable to be stopped or redirected
PP whom till N3 1-shot follower 1-shot fruit vendor
Wave novice 2-shot checks to see if someone can kill 2-shot flavor cop
Ali 1-shot jan vig
flea inventor bp/commute fruit vendor selfwatcher only gives out 3 inventions
Amici 1-shot whicked check, 1-shot flavor cop, 1-shot watcher
Ircher 1-shot BP Miller
Dragons 3-shot Tracker Supersaint
kuribo doctor until he saves someone then bg
PB jailor
SAS announce someone is hated along with posting a message
LLD double vote + will
Marashu rb w/ 1-shot janitor

We know there is a redirector due to night actions

[Lady Lambdadelta]

did Kokichi redirect you to Ircher N1?

[Alisae]

You think it's Kokichi?
Huh that's very interesting.

[Alisae]

If you think PB is town, can you justify his hammers?