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[Kokichi Oma]

[Black]

i agree with Hebi that my Porkens read could change/depend a lot on Black's alignment

-sc

What is your current read on Porkens?

Also I think you should scumcase me and explain why you are ok with Ali's vote. If you are confident enough in my alignment to try to sway others to my wagon and also discredit people that townread me, surely you are capable of explaining why I am wolf other than I am drifting?

[Black]

No need to be scared of me. Would this face lie?

*shudders*

[Kokichi Oma]

I think the Black votes are bad.

I think Porkens is suspect but I still think Kawaii is the most suspect

[Rogue]

I don’t think Black and Porkens are ever scum together, but every other alignment pairing for the two of them is still on the table

[Kokichi Oma]

I dont think Black is scum at all

[Aureal]

I see where you are coming from but did you really get this vibe from my LLD/Grey comment?

Um, a little bit, yes? Like I said? It's probably overreacting, but it gave me pause.

You asked me if hebi is a wolf and since I'm not sure I referred to the experts' opinions. In the newbie game I tried to pocket you but I do not see that here with this comment

That was pocketing? Darnit, I've now announced to everyone here now

not

to pocket me.

Wait, nobody was going to do that anyway.

I have not been able to read Aureal very well this game though. She seems to be playing more loose? than when we last played... I think is the best way to describe it. She seems less tense but I am not sure if this is AI or not

I am not a big fan of her 359 where she implies she does not know for sure how the scum PT works. Aureal, how many games have you played scum here and do you have a scum game you could link me?

I feel like I shouldn't be very easy to read, particularly early on!

But I haven't rolled scum since 2006, maybe I will be if that ever happens, who the heck knows? I don't think those games are going to be very helpful in figuring anything out about me, though they could be interesting in other ways as a testament to how much games have changed since then. We didn't have PTs then; and no I'm not 100% sure how the scum PT here works, I'm assuming they have daytalk because that's the norm but now that I look at the game rules to actually confirm, it says nothing about how PTs work. So I'm still assuming daytalk but that's just an assumption; becuse hey, maybe ffery wanted to use an encryptor role or something- this is a theme game with possibly weird mechanics.

[Black]

That was pocketing? Darnit, I've now announced to everyone here now not to pocket me.

I think? Either pocketing or buddying. I am not even really sure what the difference is tbh

But I haven't rolled scum since 2006, maybe I will be if that ever happens, who the heck knows? I don't think those games are going to be very helpful in figuring anything out about me, though they could be interesting in other ways as a testament to how much games have changed since then. We didn't have PTs then; and no I'm not 100% sure how the scum PT here works, I'm assuming they have daytalk because that's the norm but now that I look at the game rules to actually confirm, it says nothing about how PTs work. So I'm still assuming daytalk but that's just an assumption; becuse hey, maybe ffery wanted to use an encryptor role or something- this is a theme game with possibly weird mechanics.

An almost 20 year dry spell on rolling scum? What the heck...

[Black]

I think the Black votes are bad.

I think Porkens is suspect but I still think Kawaii is the most suspect

Do you have any thoughts on hebi?

[KawaiiKame]

I dont think Black is scum at all

I'm with you in this, Aureal doesn't feel scum either

[KawaiiKame]

Kawaii:

I'm kinda unfamiliar or just have played with a lot of these people in a long time. Anyone being uncharacteristic in how quiet rhey are since voting?

0nly one who fits this is Kokichi

This seems plausible. Just reading this post, the question is divorced away from the wagons, and it is just about people going quiet.

But here is Hebi:

It is vague,

I'm voicing my thoughts on what's likely/wanting to narrow down who in the Black/hepi wagons is most likely scum, making notes

I'm kinda unfamiliar or just have played with a lot of these people in a long time. Anyone being uncharacteristic in how quiet rhey are since voting?

Hebi is responding to a post that is explicitly saying that they are trying to narrow down the people voting those two. AND has made notes on those people.

Even with narrowing down on the most recent post they are responding to, I don't actually believe that Hebi switched to talking about votes in general.

VOTE: Hebi

Hebi feels to be saying what I'm saying yet you see hebi as scum and me as town, why don't you believe Hebi switched to talking about votes in general? I feel this is what happened in hebi's posts

[KawaiiKame]

I think the Black votes are bad.

I think Porkens is suspect but I still think Kawaii is the most suspect

Do you have any thoughts on hebi?

Idk why so many think hebi is scum, Ik you didn't ask me but that's what I think

[KawaiiKame]

because I just want to kill Hebi instead.

Why do you have such strong conviction that Hebi is scum? I wish you pursued this conviction with a vote instead of being merciful since you feel emotionally bad voting Hebi, nothing else makes sense to do in your pov

[KawaiiKame]

because I just want to kill Hebi instead.

Why do you have such strong conviction that Hebi is scum? I wish you pursued this conviction with a vote instead of being merciful since you feel emotionally bad voting Hebi, nothing else makes sense to do in your pov

[KawaiiKame]

I think I am wary of Kokichi due to a game we just played together but I can see how that can be interpreted as me boxing him in

No need to be scared of me. Would this face lie?

Yes

[KawaiiKame]

I don’t think Black and Porkens are ever scum together, but every other alignment pairing for the two of them is still on the table

Likely

[Lady Lambdadelta]

because I just want to kill Hebi instead.

Why do you have such strong conviction that Hebi is scum? I wish you pursued this conviction with a vote instead of being merciful since you feel emotionally bad voting Hebi, nothing else makes sense to do in your pov

Check the vote count, then try asking this again.

[Black]

Idk why so many think hebi is scum, Ik you didn't ask me but that's what I think

I did not like how hebi reacted to LLD calling her scum early on. She felt defensive and uncomfortable. She also refuses to elaborate some reads (106, 347) while openly elaborating others (118, 125) and this makes me think she is throwing out scumreads with no backing. Then she conveniently jumped on my wagon, later saying it was a pressure vote, but keeping the vote there because something I did in between those couple of pages apparently made me one of her top two scumreads? But she will not elaborate the read...so yeah, she is just playing like opportunistic scum and not really hunting/solving at all

[Wavelength]

Hebi feels to be saying what I'm saying yet you see hebi as scum and me as town, why don't you believe Hebi switched to talking about votes in general? I feel this is what happened in hebi's posts

I feel like my post fairly clearly showed the difference between the post that you were responding to vs the post that Hebi was responding to.

And to be clear, the question post was not the issue. It was soft agreeing with you about Kokichi.

[KawaiiKame]

Idk why so many think hebi is scum, Ik you didn't ask me but that's what I think

I did not like how hebi reacted to LLD calling her scum early on. She felt defensive and uncomfortable. She also refuses to elaborate some reads (106, 347) while openly elaborating others (118, 125) and this makes me think she is throwing out scumreads with no backing. Then she conveniently jumped on my wagon, later saying it was a pressure vote, but keeping the vote there because something I did in between those couple of pages apparently made me one of her top two scumreads? But she will not elaborate the read...so yeah, she is just playing like opportunistic scum and not really hunting/solving at all

All of this makes sense, I dislike,

Elaborations are scum sided. I just don't like your posts.

All greyice ever does is tell me explaining reads is scummy.

Same with seemingly randomly voting you with weak backing

[KawaiiKame]

Hebi feels to be saying what I'm saying yet you see hebi as scum and me as town, why don't you believe Hebi switched to talking about votes in general? I feel this is what happened in hebi's posts

I feel like my post fairly clearly showed the difference between the post that you were responding to vs the post that Hebi was responding to.

And to be clear, the question post was not the issue. It was soft agreeing with you about Kokichi.

Ah yeah, by the tone you feel hebi is implying discussion within the hebi/Black votes but goes onto talk about Kokichi with me?

[KawaiiKame]

because I just want to kill Hebi instead.

Why do you have such strong conviction that Hebi is scum? I wish you pursued this conviction with a vote instead of being merciful since you feel emotionally bad voting Hebi, nothing else makes sense to do in your pov

Check the vote count, then try asking this again.

Apologies, my mistake, I see the vote

[Wavelength]

Hebi feels to be saying what I'm saying yet you see hebi as scum and me as town, why don't you believe Hebi switched to talking about votes in general? I feel this is what happened in hebi's posts

I feel like my post fairly clearly showed the difference between the post that you were responding to vs the post that Hebi was responding to.

And to be clear, the question post was not the issue. It was soft agreeing with you about Kokichi.

Ah yeah, by the tone you feel hebi is implying discussion within the hebi/Black votes but goes onto talk about Kokichi with me?

Yes. Given the post that Hebi was responding to, switching to a general discussion on people going quiet does not seem real.

So, when they agreed with you, and said that they considered the same thing, I think that that is a lie. They were just agreeing/disagreeing to appear engaged in the discussion, despite not actually having been thinking about Kokichi's alignment in that way at all.

[hebichan]

Am I at e-1 yet?

[fferyllt]

Ahead warp factor one.