Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[Riceballtail]

I'm beginning to agree with a possible farside SK. I do think it's possible to have her claiming SK/vig to try and survive to endgame as mafia though.

Mod edit
Official Votecount:
farside22 (3): armlx, Jebus, BlakAdder
Jebus (1): farside22

Not voting (8): Gremwell, Netlava, Zazier, RestFermata, kuribo, Riceballtail, ThAdmiral, Surye

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

[kuribo]

It should also be noted that we've only had ONE three-kill night in a game already loaded to the teeth with power roles.

I'm guessing (again at the risk of playing out-guess the mod) that the vig was one-shot and killed either Alabaska (because alot of people thought he was scum) or obvscum al4xz. Of course, the SK wants to out the mafia, too, since SKs are generally self-aligned and would get endgamed by the mafia in a 2/1/1 or 3/2/1 endgame.

[farside22]

Out guessing mod is bad. Alright armlx I will self shot. If I survive tomorrow hang me.
Sticking with Jebus as scum at this point.

[Surye]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

[farside22]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

[Surye]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

And you were clearly ignored, and yet you still took a chance on a cop? No one agreed with you, and there was still a chance for the switch. It was a TERRIBLE town move, regardless of what you said.

[Surye]

And yes you hit scum. Congrats SK, one step closer to your win condition.

[farside22]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

And you were clearly ignored, and yet you still took a chance on a cop? No one agreed with you, and there was still a chance for the switch. It was a TERRIBLE town move, regardless of what you said.

I wasn't ignored Al4 is dead because of me. Not anti town in the least giving a heads up in the game that a target of al4 to the bus drive leads to one dead scum.

[Surye]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

And you were clearly ignored, and yet you still took a chance on a cop? No one agreed with you, and there was still a chance for the switch. It was a TERRIBLE town move, regardless of what you said.

I wasn't ignored Al4 is dead because of me. Not anti town in the least giving a heads up in the game that a target of al4 to the bus drive leads to one dead scum.

You were ignored. There was a chance either way by that plan, you got lucky. You took an unnecissary risk. A very antitown one. When cream flipped scum, al4 was doomed to be lynched. You just risked armlx.

[farside22]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

And you were clearly ignored, and yet you still took a chance on a cop? No one agreed with you, and there was still a chance for the switch. It was a TERRIBLE town move, regardless of what you said.

I wasn't ignored Al4 is dead because of me. Not anti town in the least giving a heads up in the game that a target of al4 to the bus drive leads to one dead scum.

You were ignored. There was a chance either way by that plan, you got lucky. You took an unnecissary risk. A very antitown one. When cream flipped scum, al4 was doomed to be lynched. You just risked armlx.

That is a bull. I didn't risk anything by making that statment.
Also I will note that most people voting or pushing are trying to get rid of a claim vig are more likely mafia who are scared that they will be killed.

[Surye]

Busy moving, so I haven't had much time.... but was it really smart for a pro-town vig to kill al4 when we had CLEARLY established there was a 50/50 he would be busdriven with a claimed cop?


....Seriously? Sounds like an SK to me.

I stated the vig should shoot Al4 so the bus driver would not switch them.
Reading is tech.

And you were clearly ignored, and yet you still took a chance on a cop? No one agreed with you, and there was still a chance for the switch. It was a TERRIBLE town move, regardless of what you said.

I wasn't ignored Al4 is dead because of me. Not anti town in the least giving a heads up in the game that a target of al4 to the bus drive leads to one dead scum.

You were ignored. There was a chance either way by that plan, you got lucky. You took an unnecissary risk. A very antitown one. When cream flipped scum, al4 was doomed to be lynched. You just risked armlx.

That is a bull. I didn't risk anything by making that statment.
Also I will note that most people voting or pushing are trying to get rid of a claim vig are more likely mafia who are scared that they will be killed.

I didn't say the statment was a risk, the kill was. Reading is tech.

[armlx]

Just doing math.

8-3-1 right now. Worst case, we lynch scum today, Farside is SK, 2 town kills tonight

5-3-1, lynch Farside, 4-3 LyLo the next morning.

We have room for error here UNLESS farside is mafia, which I doubt.

So, thoughts on who else to lynch?

[Riceballtail]

VOTE:Jebus

If farside is telling the truth, which I do still believe is a possibility, then I think Jebus would make a good target for a lynch. Certainly hasn't contributed anything outside of a bandwagon vote today. I've been suspicious, but I'm getting more than a gut feeling.

[farside22]

Just doing math.

8-3-1 right now. Worst case, we lynch scum today, Farside is SK, 2 town kills tonight

5-3-1, lynch Farside, 4-3 LyLo the next morning.

We have room for error here UNLESS farside is mafia, which I doubt.

So, thoughts on who else to lynch?

I think there might be more the 3 mafia. In a 25 player game I could see 6 mafia members, but that is just a guess. So it is a possible
8 town and 4 mafia left in the game.
I seriously think BA and jebus are scum at this point. BA's vote after my claim reaks of scum wanting to get rid of a power role.

[armlx]

I think there might be more the 3 mafia. In a 25 player game I could see 6 mafia members, but that is just a guess. So it is a possible

Look at the kill numbers. Has to be 19-5-1 or there couldnt be 3 kills one night.

Also, if there someone else is actually the vig, don't counter claim, just shoot farside tonight.

BA's vote after my claim reaks of scum wanting to get rid of a power role.

[kuribo]

BA's vote after my claim reaks of scum wanting to get rid of a power role.

We already played that game once.

[farside22]

BA's vote after my claim reaks of scum wanting to get rid of a power role.

We already played that game once.

That is was a doc who made some really suspicious choices.
Also scum wants a vig dead. Why would the want to not lynch me I could kill them and lynching me gets rid of a problem at night.

[armlx]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

[farside22]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

And we have or had bus drivers in the game. Point?

[armlx]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

And we have or had bus drivers in the game. Point?

Only one of thos e could have feasibly targeted you, and the odds of you being a target for him assuming completely random scenario where myself and xtoxm are eliminated as targets as per my analysis your scenario is at a 1/6 chance of truth. Not to mention xtoxm had incentive to target SL last night in which case the odds of my result being tainted are 0%.

[farside22]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

And we have or had bus drivers in the game. Point?

Only one of thos e could have feasibly targeted you, and the odds of you being a target for him assuming completely random scenario where myself and xtoxm are eliminated as targets as per my analysis your scenario is at a 1/6 chance of truth. Not to mention xtoxm had incentive to target SL last night in which case the odds of my result being tainted are 0%.

Obviously looking at who is dead xtoxm did not target SL. SL is dead if you didn't notice. So please try again if you aren't paying attention to who is dead or alive in this case. Xtoxm obviously didn't do what he should have done last night unless you think the scum targeted me instead. Are you really going to say that?

[Surye]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

And we have or had bus drivers in the game. Point?

Point is, there's a guilty SOMEWHERE. No busdrivers are stepping forward as targetting you. Should we mass claim "Not-Bus-Driver-That-Targeted-Farside"? Or do we think a mafia BD is that likely?

[Surye]

Oh yea... kills come after targets, forgot about that. Sorry, MC on that is pretty pointless.

[farside22]

YOU HAVE A GUILTY ON YOU.

Just making sure we are all in reality land.

And we have or had bus drivers in the game. Point?

Point is, there's a guilty SOMEWHERE. No busdrivers are stepping forward as targetting you. Should we mass claim "Not-Bus-Driver-That-Targeted-Farside"? Or do we think a mafia BD is that likely?

I would not want to see a BD outted to save me. Either I die today by lynch or tonight by self vigging. I just think Armlx keeps missing the point that xtoxm didnt' do anything as he is predicting.

[kuribo]

Also scum wants a vig dead.

scum want the SK dead too, but most of the time, SK's are NK immune