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Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:59 pm

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oh right, he shouldnt need hammer.
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Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:00 pm

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yeah, they should have 3 blood, and get 4 off the death today. they shouldnt need hammer.
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Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:00 pm

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that's not relevant
he uses it on n2 which resets his blood counter
he gets 1 blood for the icedragon kill, 1 for the elimination, and 1 for furtive dying to poison
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Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:01 pm

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idk how much blood they need to use, but if they could use Night 2, they should be able to use tonight without hammer no matter what it costs.

Is that a lowkey Kawaii slip?
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Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:01 pm

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FL is very smart good job I award you with :mortar_board:
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Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:01 pm

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In post 3228, Flavor Leaf wrote: idk how much blood they need to use, but if they could use Night 2, they should be able to use tonight without hammer no matter what it costs.

Is that a lowkey Kawaii slip?
no you're just reading the post wrong
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Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:02 pm

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In post 3191, KawaiiKame wrote: I need to hammer to jail someone again
this implies he needed hammer yesterday to jail someone
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Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:02 pm

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hence the usage of again
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Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:02 pm

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In post 3221, GuyInFreezer wrote: Kawaii while you’re here full claim please
Also claim your discard
I'm Rui, I jail/cage
Discard: Sanemi Shinazugawa

I have 1 blood in blood state
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Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm

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actually fuck maybe I'm the one reading the post wrong but he didn't need hammer on d2 to jailkeep enchant so I imagine he only needed hammer to reach his blood thresholds
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Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm

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In post 3233, KawaiiKame wrote: I have 1 blood in blood state
how?
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Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:05 pm

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something that doesnt add up is blood costs with Hebi role then blood cost with Kawaii role for a significantly weaker version of the role.
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Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:06 pm

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In post 3235, Klickwork wrote:
In post 3233, KawaiiKame wrote: I have 1 blood in blood state
how?
Idk, I had 2 blood in N3, now I have 1 blood in D4
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Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:07 pm

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Literally how??????????
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Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:07 pm

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In post 3191, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 3187, GuyInFreezer wrote: Also we need to wait until Kawaii to sort things out

Kawaii needed extra blood from hammer to jail Fire N3. That means Kawaii jailkept somebody N2. That can be a very important info.
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Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:08 pm

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the only way I can imagine one loses blood is if they use an ability but you made it sound like you couldn't use ability
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Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:08 pm

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So a scum team member used Kawaii's ability for them, costing 2 blood, and then they got +1'd for the death at day start.

Or scum has a blood draining move, and drained Kawaii even though they claimed they would jail.
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Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:09 pm

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In post 3238, Klickwork wrote: Literally how??????????
Idk, I'm confused too, if hebi related to mine that might be why
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Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:09 pm

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I think Enchant is the culprit
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Post Post #3244 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:10 pm

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In post 3206, GuyInFreezer wrote: Hebi claimed to target self, Fire, and Mo and say that they can’t be targeted nor make action
PB tracked Klick see Klick visited everyone except Fire and Mo.

It is definitely confirmed.
wait question does commute take place before hebis action on me?
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Post Post #3245 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:10 pm

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I'd like to specify I'll not be truly around for another 3-6 hours or so. I've a
momentary
window to share this, not a dedicated bloc of time.

I thought about my reads and
tentatively
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(NOTE: 3p not factored in. This is purely for scum; any 3p are essentially considered town for the purpose of this list.)

{Pink Ball, GuyInFreezer}
{Klickwork, hebichan, Enchant}
{Firebringer}
{KawaiiKame}
{GrandpaMo}
{Flavor Leaf}

I very strongly believe Pink Ball to be town by both claim and role. His claimed role fits perfectly since a human tracker would need either scent (Tanjiro, who flipped with a different power), hearing (Zenitsu, who flipped with a different power; Tengen Uzui), or touch (Inosuke, with Beast Breathing, Seventh Form, Spacial Awareness).
The discarded power perfectly fits Enmu's power. I knew flavor-wise Enmu would either be a commuter/BP (because of merging with a train), or a roleblocker due to Enmu's power to put players to sleep. Selecting the tracker over the roleblocker is +town.
Seeing his stances, it's clear he thought he had genuine guilties.

I strongly believe GuyInFreezer is town by play. I don't see him having claimed flavor from a skim (I'll review), so that aspect's hard to verify. The choice of doctor fits, and the targets were good ones. GIF has been consistently solving in ways I find incredibly +town.

Klickwork I believe has a genuine result, and I genuinely believe they think it was a guilty. I realize they
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have bussed; play-wise I don't think they did. Their interaction is believable and role-wise I buy it. Daki's demon art involved using her ribbons to create a network of information throughout the entire town, tracking movements similarly to how Inosuke does. An effectively passive demon art fits. In the rare instances Daki gets her head cut off (she can slay Hashira on her own), Ume comes out to avenge her (Vengeful) and cuts her would-be slayer down. Ume is notably the stronger of the two and only comes out late, so summoning him naturally would be expensive. Once he comes out, Daki doesn't use her ribbons anymore, so I buy the track being disabled.

Enchant
might
be a 3p, but he's certainly not scum. Since he's
either
town or 3p, regardless he's not someone I'd recommend voting out any time soon. I've seen Enchant react to guilties and he genuinely believes the guilty. He's not faking his belief I'm scum, which makes him town (or effectively so).

hebichan is purely for a townslip:
In post 1, Frozen Angel wrote:3.2. Demons earn blood for each death in-game (elimination or kills). If they are directly involved with the kill they earn 1 extra blood (if they hammer the elimination or they do the killing).
3.3. Blood demon arts cost a certain amount of blood to be cast. The entire blood reserve of the demon gets zeroed after casting a blood demon art.
In post 2267, hebichan wrote:
In post 2261, Ranger wrote:
In post 2230, hebichan wrote:Maybe it's a thing about choosing slayer, you don't need blood but your ability is weaker overall.
I don't recall claiming slayer.

I even specified I discarded the role which very clearly has a breathing technique.

What leads you to believe I am one? I've acted every night, sure; I've also been on every elimination.
Why is your conclusion I'm a slayer with a 1-cost breathing technique, rather than a demon with a cheap repeatable demon art?
As a demon, I get pms tracking blood every night.

They have coincided with flips, and no one used blood before night 3.

Blood count was 1, 4, 6, 1
hebichan had a fundamental misunderstanding of blood mechanics. The
only
way she would genuinely make this mistake as scum is if she were on the scumteam and the entire scumteam was human.

I don't believe the mistake was faked. hebichan assumed I am human through a wrong mechanic; that's not something scum would go out of their way to invent.
Ergo, with her genuinely having made a mechanics mistake, she couldn't have had a scumteam to compare notes on demon arts about.

She can be 3p, she can be scum on a team entirely comprised of humans. She cannot be scum if there's a demon on the scumteam.

I'd strongly recommend avoiding eliminations on the top five.

The bottom four logically should contain the remaining scum.

I believe if there was a foiled kill via protection it was either on Pink Ball or Firebringer, which is why Firebringer is on the top.
I believe there's a decent chance GrandpaMo was the killer and failed thanks to hebichan.
I believe FlavorLeaf is the most likely reason for the night shenanigans being what they have been.

None of these are definitive. I feel my PoE is good.

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Post Post #3246 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:10 pm

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Hebi and Enchant scum team?
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Post Post #3247 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:11 pm

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In post 3206, GuyInFreezer wrote: Hebi claimed to target self, Fire, and Mo and say that they can’t be targeted nor make action
PB tracked Klick see Klick visited everyone except Fire and Mo.

It is definitely confirmed.
I'm still incredibly frustrated by this cause this should not be possible.
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Post Post #3248 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:11 pm

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Ah, Ranger scum claiming and trying to make it look like they're trying to distant from me.
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Post Post #3249 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:12 pm

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In post 3213, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think it's much safer to have her not use her ability tonight.
yes finally some sense. THANK U FL. ifeel i have been ignored and now people just wanna start agreeing wit me now all of a sudden first pinkball with the no elim on day 1 then now this???


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