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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 am

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havent looked at drew closely, nothing has pinged me one way or another
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 am

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Then go look

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:21 am

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Really minor mod announcement that I'm making purely because I said I would announce any changes to the rules:

Upon review, I've realized that I don't like this mod note.
Knife-Wielding Duck wrote:
NOTE:
I have made some adjustments to the setup as it is in the wiki page, namely to enable daytalk and to clarify ambiguities in the doctor role PM. If a situation arises where using the wording the wiki would create a different outcome than using the wording in this post, this post will prevail.

I will be amending it to say this instead.
Knife-Wielding Duck wrote:
NOTE:
I have made some adjustments to the setup as it is in the wiki page, namely to enable daytalk and to clarify ambiguities in the doctor role PM. Those adjustments were intentional. In any other situation where using the wording the wiki would create a different outcome than using the wording in this post, the adjustment was accidental and the wiki will prevail.

That's all.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:21 am

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im good for now maybe when im home from work
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:32 am

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In post 98, Oclaxian Empire wrote:
In post 85, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 65, Oclaxian Empire wrote: grim: dragon wagon feels bad but i have not read anything why dragon is being wagoned. bianco what did u see from dragon?

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They literally just posted their reasoning..
grim: and i feel me saying i didnt read anything related to it was p. clear, so why say this?
why would it feel bad if you didn't read anything?
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:32 am

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In post 96, The Bulge wrote:
In post 92, usesPython wrote:
In post 90, The Bulge wrote: mainly the part about mala's meta
The vote hopping is pretty out of character from Mala from what I've seen, they're not usually this flighty? I guess would be the word?

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seems a little early to make a call lke this but ok
In post 93, Kokichi Oma wrote: Mala is likely scum too. But I think opposite team from black so far is my read.
why is that?
they are both acting weird based on experience, but i think they don't seem aligned so far
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:33 am

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IceDragon70 is being prodded.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:34 am

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In post 120, Black wrote:
In post 88, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 79, Black wrote: Out of RVS on page 3. I love it

I don't have an issue with Dragon's nor do I have an issue with the wagon that formed off of it

My only issue atm is HPE's where he says he's on board to vote Dragon but doesn't want to turn it into a wagon?
Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you

VOTE: Black
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In post 88, Kokichi Oma wrote: Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you
Finally? :lol:

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Yeah what. I'm always scum
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 179, Aureal wrote:
In post 177, Black wrote: But...but...I like her

Oh no, is this the new buddying me strategy?
In post 178, Black wrote: Can't we just stick her on Nameless-translator duty instead?
... I guess not.

Black, ol' buddybuddybuddynosubliminalmessageherebuddybuddy, how could you suggest such a thing? Is Kokichi right about you? :(
I'm always right. How about you vote them

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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 181, Black wrote: Rule 1: Kokichi is never right about me

Rule 2: I am unbuddyable unless you send cat pics
This is fake meta. ACTUALLY scum.

PLEASE VOTE THIS NOW
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:37 am

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In post 194, Aureal wrote:
In post 191, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 188, Black wrote:
In post 187, HighPrincessErinys wrote: No. Tell me, both of you, why it and others should.
Talking points. Gauging how people respond to pressure. Y'know all that good stuff

I didn't think you would want to join us. You seem to holster your vote like it's going to blow someone's face off if you use it
Votes? Wagons? VCA? You want it, it's yours my friend!
VOTE: Black

I think this one is town. :lol:
I think that one is town too so far
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:37 am

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To be clear I mean HPE town
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:37 am

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In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote: I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
Black's been scum in Newbie 2111, Newbie 2113, Newbie 2116. It's basically a meme at this point that Black can't roll town in Newbie games
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:38 am

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In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote: I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
I think you might be confusing me with someone else? We only played Death Note together. I've finished 5 games on site and 3 of them were wolf games lol
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:38 am

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In post 222, usesPython wrote:
In post 166, usesPython wrote: Oh no you got Nameless to mech post :sob:

-A

It's actually optimal to lim every day. Since scum targetting the same person stops the nightkill that leaves a
G
/(
T
+
G
) chance of shooting the other groupscum, and a 1/(
T
2 + 2
T
) chance of both targetting the same townie if a townie is getting shot

The chance of limming scum is
S
/(P - 1)

Plugging in the numbers that means that for now a lim gives an expected result of 8/12 chance of limming town whereas the chance of scum nightkilling town (Ignoring any doctor plays) is 9/11 - 1/99 = 80/99

Spoiler: What the letters mean

P - number of players alive
T
- number of town alive
S
- number of scum alive
G
- number of enemy groupscum alive


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Ugh, don't do mech while tired; the math for the nightkills is off by like 0.5% because I didn't properly adjust the "same target = no nk" and didn't account for the doctor. Just listing out every possible action assuming a No Lim gives the following nightkill chances:
Town Doctor
: 240/2484 (9.66%)
Vanilla Townie
: 1760/2484 (70.85%)
Fire Mafia Goon
: 242/2484 (9.74%)
Ice Mafia Goon
: 242/2484 (9.74%)

Which when combined gives the chances of:
Town
: 2000/2484 (80.52%)
Mafia
: 484/2484 (19.48%)

Compared to the elim chances (
Town Doctor
can't get elimed because they just claim):
Vanilla Townie
: 8/12
Fire Mafia Goon
: 2/12
Ice Mafia Goon
: 2/12

Which when combined gives the chances of
Town
: 8/12 (66.67%)
Mafia
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In post 175, Black wrote: Whatever. Now it's your responsibility to translate the mech for us >:(
In post 213, Oclaxian Empire wrote: thats cool and all but can u explain it in laymans terms.
It's more optimal to get scum killed through elims instead of nightkills and the reason this math needed to be done at all is because the mechanic where scum targeting the same person stops the nightkill will only ever get triggered on a town nightkill (since if it triggers on a scum nightkill it means that scum targeted themselves)

-Nameless
Too much math. Don't like. Makes my brain hurt

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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:39 am

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In post 287, usesPython wrote:
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote: I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
Black's been scum in Newbie 2111, Newbie 2113, Newbie 2116. It's basically a meme at this point that Black can't roll town in Newbie games
I'm the self-proclaimed Newbie Scum Queen
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:40 am

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In post 288, Black wrote:
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote: I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
I think you might be confusing me with someone else? We only played Death Note together. I've finished 5 games on site and 3 of them were wolf games lol
Maybe I was. Either way, I think you're scum here
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:41 am

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Flipping scum and being scum aren't the same, lol.

But why do you think she's scum? "Acting weird" isn't much to go on. You can't even have that much experience with her if you don't even know she's the Scum Queen of the Newbie Queue. XD
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:42 am

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In post 289, Kokichi Oma wrote: Too much math. Don't like. Makes my brain hurt
smh I even removed all the actual math and just left the outcomes

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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:42 am

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Cause the time she was town in the game I played she was OBVIOUS town. And she's not that here. It's a gut feeling. And my gut feelings are right 50% of the time

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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:49 am

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In post 294, Kokichi Oma wrote: Cause the time she was town in the game I played she was OBVIOUS town. And she's not that here. It's a gut feeling. And my gut feelings are right 50% of the time
In my experience Black is obvtown even when she's scum

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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:56 am

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In post 295, usesPython wrote: In my experience Black is obvtown even when she's scum
This is kinda the vibe I get based on people's reads of me on this site so far

So what does it mean when I'm not obvtown?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:56 am

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In post 291, Kokichi Oma wrote: Maybe I was. Either way, I think you're scum here
Why? Where does your gut feeling come from?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:57 am

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In post 297, Black wrote:
In post 291, Kokichi Oma wrote: Maybe I was. Either way, I think you're scum here
Why? Where does your gut feeling come from?
my gut
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:58 am

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In post 296, Black wrote:
In post 295, usesPython wrote: In my experience Black is obvtown even when she's scum
This is kinda the vibe I get based on people's reads of me on this site so far

So what does it mean when I'm not obvtown?
Guys I think someone stole Blacks account and is impersonating her, it's the only explanation :lol:

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