Open 876 - Fire and Ice - Postgame

[furtiveglance]

Bulge is very likely scum, I'm gonna move back.

VOTE: The Bulge

[Black]

Bulge is very likely scum, I'm gonna move back.

I'm not getting these vibes...can you elaborate?

A quick look at his ISO and he seems kinda townie to me. He's definitely putting in some effort to solve

[furtiveglance]

Bulge is very likely scum, I'm gonna move back.

I'm not getting these vibes...can you elaborate?

A quick look at his ISO and he seems kinda townie to me. He's definitely putting in some effort to solve

I agree that he's pushing, but I see an agenda.

[Black]

Python getting a little defensive over the mech talk kinda stinks

Cause like it's pretty blatantly obvious you're still scumhunting like it's regular mafia without ever reconsidering why the tells you're using worked there in the first place.

I wish you would stop assuming that everyone is some mechanical wizard that can hop into any format and just know the optimal play. You keep alluding to these secret strategies of multiball and jumping on people for not knowing them. It's borderline condescending

[Black]

I think Ice's catchup is ok so far, but:

So I am just gonna ISO the 3-4 players that stuck out the most for me and see whichever of them I wanna vote now.

I'm curious if you'll be able to get around to the other 2-3 players?

[Kokichi Oma]

Do not get distracted, Black is scum. don't let her get away with it

[Black]

Do not get distracted, Black is scum. don't let her get away with it

Yeah, I think we get it

Spoiler: I wonder if Kokichi thinks I'm scum?

Out of RVS on page 3. I love it

I don't have an issue with Dragon's 45 nor do I have an issue with the wagon that formed off of it

My only issue atm is HPE's 54 where he says he's on board to vote Dragon but doesn't want to turn it into a wagon?

Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you

VOTE: Black

Out of RVS on page 3. I love it

I don't have an issue with Dragon's 45 nor do I have an issue with the wagon that formed off of it

My only issue atm is HPE's 54 where he says he's on board to vote Dragon but doesn't want to turn it into a wagon?

Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you

VOTE: Black

Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you

Finally?

-A

Yeah what. I'm always scum

I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.

But...but...I like her

Oh no, is this the new buddying me strategy?

Can't we just stick her on Nameless-translator duty instead?

... I guess not.

Black, ol' buddybuddybuddynosubliminalmessageherebuddybuddy, how could you suggest such a thing? Is Kokichi right about you?

I'm always right. How about you vote them

Rule 1: Kokichi is never right about me

Rule 2: I am unbuddyable _{unless you send cat pics}

This is fake meta. ACTUALLY scum.

PLEASE VOTE THIS NOW

I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.

I think you might be confusing me with someone else? We only played Death Note together. I've finished 5 games on site and 3 of them were wolf games lol

Maybe I was. Either way, I think you're scum here

Cause the time she was town in the game I played she was OBVIOUS town. And she's not that here. It's a gut feeling. And my gut feelings are right 50% of the time

Vote black today. If they don't flip scum, you can vote me tomorrow. that's how strong my gut feeling is

That's not a town reaction to that post btw

Vote black, guaranteed scum here.

This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me

No it's not? Where did I say I would've SRed you if StD didn't fake claim?

Also why do you seem so upset all the sudden?

Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone

Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone

Because you know I'm right about you

Town doesn't make a gambit with their life halfway through D1 on a pure gut meta read

You changed you're reaction after I said it wasn't a town reaction. Easy scum move.

Sorry you rolled scum when I was town actually

Do not get distracted, Black is scum. don't let her get away with it

[usesPython]

Python getting a little defensive over the mech talk kinda stinks

Cause like it's pretty blatantly obvious you're still scumhunting like it's regular mafia without ever reconsidering why the tells you're using worked there in the first place.

I wish you would stop assuming that everyone is some mechanical wizard that can hop into any format and just know the optimal play. You keep alluding to these secret strategies of multiball and jumping on people for not knowing them. It's borderline condescending

Properly scumhunting d1 in multiball has nothing to do with mech. To state the real obvious, the only mech you need to know to scumhunt d1 in multiball is:

• Ice Mafia's
  preferred elims today are:
  Fire Mafia
  ,
  Town
  ,
  Ice Mafia
  
  
• Fire Mafia's
  preferred elims today are:
  Ice Mafia
  ,
  Town
  ,
  Fire Mafia
  
  
• Town's
  preferred elims today are:
  Mafia
  ,
  Town

[Kokichi Oma]

I think in this situation if I was scum I would want to get rid of town first because you can rid of doc

[usesPython]

I think in this situation if I was scum I would want to get rid of town first because you can rid of doc

How? You can't lim the doc and trying to nightkill the doc runs the risk of no-killing that night.

-A

[usesPython]

Like there's a theoretical way to guarantee scum can nightkill doctor but it shouldn't be in play this game so the chances of nightkilling the doctor shouldn't be greater than 50%

-A

[Black]

@Python - ok...so how is that different than normal mafia? Everyone is looking for scum D1 and there's no real way to tell the motives yet. The people on my wagon could be townies pushing possible scum, scum pushing a possible townie, or scum pushing possible opposing scum. How do you tell the difference?

[usesPython]

@Python - ok...so how is that different than normal mafia? Everyone is looking for scum D1 and there's no real way to tell the motives yet. The people on my wagon could be townies pushing possible scum, scum pushing a possible townie, or scum pushing possible opposing scum. How do you tell the difference?

Yeah everyone's trying to lim mafia, but who are people trying not to lim

-A

[Kokichi Oma]

I think in this situation if I was scum I would want to get rid of town first because you can rid of doc

How? You can't lim the doc and trying to nightkill the doc runs the risk of no-killing that night.

-A

If you out doc, you can kill doc? or is there some mechanic i'm not aware of

[usesPython]

If you out doc, you can kill doc? or is there some mechanic i'm not aware of

If both groupscum target the same person then the kill doesn't go through

-A

[Black]

If you out doc, you can kill doc? or is there some mechanic i'm not aware of

If both mafia teams hit the Doc, there's no kill

[Kokichi Oma]

That's so funny. I wish I was scum this game, I'm sad. I would have had a ball

[Black]

That's so funny. I wish I was scum this game, I'm sad. I would have had a ball

That's a weird reaction to learning about the mechanic

"I wish I was scum so I could potentially waste a NK on the Doc"

[Kokichi Oma]

It makes the game more exciting. If I was scum, I wouldn't be pushing you Black. You should know this since you're scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

Black, don't you think Mala is scum here?

[usesPython]

Did Kokichi skip the mech posts? Scum limming other scum is the best possible outcome for them d1, it brings their winrate up from like ~1/3 to ~1/2

-A

[usesPython]

Mala's kinda just existing this game

-A

[Black]

If I was scum, I wouldn't be pushing you Black. You should know this since you're scum.

What?

[Black]

Black, don't you think Mala is scum here?

No, and I don't think you do either tbh

[Alianna]

Malakittens is being prodded.