Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

[Dunnstral]

I feel it is pretty uncharitable to say I focus solely on your roleplaying when I have tried to move away from it and focus on the core of my issues with you instead, and as I have explained I have had to ask you multiple times to get you to answer the questions I was asking you. In fact I'd say that I have never been focused on your roleplaying at all, but on the content which I found in poor taste.

[Dunnstral]

What specifically do you like Dunn?

108, 116, 122, 125, 133, 154, 181

These are posts that I liked

[Titus]

Why? What is being pushed aside from semantics?

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Dunnstral Scum Case By Sir Firebringer

Okay, so my primary thoughts are that Dunnstral is not acting in this game in a sorting capacity, I think this is best seen in the early questions he came in with. The way he handled interactions with me was also weird and I try to wrap my brain around it because they don't make sense to me much completely in a town or scum dunnstral world but the focus to me wasn't figuring out my alignment and I think overall distraction.

lets go into his "solving questions"

-town points for spelling Mississippi wrong

Wish I could blame it on chatgpt but i wrote it all myself.

I am going to intermittently continue the scene because i didn't get the role pm i wanted and i am going to have to fun somehow

What does this mean? Did you read the setup?

Okay so I don't see the purpose in this question at all. The idea here i guess from Dunnstral is he thinks I didn't read the setup, I don't know what this tells a town or scum dunnstral if I did or didn't. I have not read setups beforea s both alignments. Dunn might or might not be aware of me favoring scum (i would think he should know with all our games together) but lets say he doesn't.

So what does this serve? To me this looks like seeing if he can see what i know of the setup to push me for it depending on the response. It doesn't look like sorting because what knowledge of my setup would help him sort as town, we are amnesiacs, we don't know the setup. So its either role fishing or psuedo trap to see if he can push me possibly under pretense of a 'scum slip', that last part might uncharitable here. But to me this question serves nothing of hunting. I don't think this is dunn trying to sort me unless magically he thinks scum me knows the full setup or something and i outed something about not getting the PRs (which i think are probably mostly hidden from scum too..again what does this serve)

Wait is this going to be the first game where I am being consensus townread on page 2?
Rather than consensus scumread on that page, that is.

Hold up, who is townreading you on page 2? I went back and checked and didn't see it.

I think the concern on who is townreading who is more of a scum concern. More mental notes taken of who is reading each other what for purpose of knowing where people stand. I also think this shows a lack of attention to the details here which I think is more easily to happen with scum. This one felt a bit less scummy because not paying attention can happen to anyone but the focus of who is reading u like that seems more of a scum concern.

I think that BlueSnakelet looks awkward here.

Their first post, 28, gives me that feeling. After that they banter for a bit and then in post 44 seem to say "what's the point of theme games" in response to someone else not liking roleplay. I feel this is a weird stance to have as usually this kind of thing is not present in theme games. I'm not sure where BlueSnakelet is coming from here.

This was after my vote but was pretty damning and most content dunn has made. I have yet to bring it up. I thought snek was the easiest person to push in this game and feel like scum Dunn took the bait here going for him. But even the way its argued doesn't show me hunting beyond someone is being awkward. The weird stance that someone is making about themes? How is this a scum mindset Dunnstral? He also ends it with saying not sure where snek is coming from but yet doesn't pursue it to ask Snek questions of what he is thinking or where thoughts are. Theres no curiosity there. Its not hunting. Its X is awkward and here is a weird take.


Okay thats it for me now. Now i go play more mad games tycoon 2

[Thestatusquo]

BlueSnakelet Mafia; my thoughts are in post 75
Pink ball Town; I like that they are going after Dragoneater early in post 56 as I find them a little weird at this point too, I like that their few posts recently are taking stances instead of continuing to banter.
Black Town; I like how they are questioning/pushing things

What things is black actually questioning and pushing in a non-generic way?

[Thestatusquo]

I want to vote fb for spoilering like 3 paragraphs.

[Titus]

@Fire, I am resetting on Dunn for you boo.

[Dunnstral]

Why? What is being pushed aside from semantics?

I'm not sure how to answer this. I don't agree with you, though; I'd need you to show me how they are only pushing semantics in order for me to explain how it's not, or if it matters at all. I generally like what they are doing, and can point to those posts.

[Thestatusquo]

titus will you give some thoughts of your own. I'm not loving this neutral thread interrogator role you seem to be trying to position yourself into.

[Titus]

Why? What is being pushed aside from semantics?

I'm not sure how to answer this. I don't agree with you, though; I'd need you to show me how they are only pushing semantics in order for me to explain how it's not, or if it matters at all. I generally like what they are doing, and can point to those posts.

I too can select posts from someone's ISO and claim they are "questioning/pushing things". If I am going to go to bat for you with my biggest townread, I need more.

[Dunnstral]

So what does this serve? To me this looks like seeing if he can see what i know of the setup to push me for it depending on the response.

So what does this serve? To me this looks like seeing if he can see what i know of the setup to push me for it depending on the response.

But I didn't push you for that when you finally answered me, right? In post 189.

[Titus]

titus will you give some thoughts of your own. I'm not loving this neutral thread interrogator role you seem to be trying to position yourself into.

When the time is right. I'm awaiting Black here specifically.

I will tell you know that I had concerns about you first but waffling. Fire is obvtown btw.

[Thestatusquo]

titus will you give some thoughts of your own. I'm not loving this neutral thread interrogator role you seem to be trying to position yourself into.

When the time is right. I'm awaiting Black here specifically.

I will tell you know that I had concerns about you first but waffling. Fire is obvtown btw.

This claim will only offend him.

[Titus]

titus will you give some thoughts of your own. I'm not loving this neutral thread interrogator role you seem to be trying to position yourself into.

When the time is right. I'm awaiting Black here specifically.

I will tell you know that I had concerns about you first but waffling. Fire is obvtown btw.

This claim will only offend him.

Him being Fire? Well I can only work with him so much. I don't care what others think of me but I can't fake reads that well as town, even to obscure. I'm a shitty mason (that's not a claim).

[Dunnstral]

Why? What is being pushed aside from semantics?

I'm not sure how to answer this. I don't agree with you, though; I'd need you to show me how they are only pushing semantics in order for me to explain how it's not, or if it matters at all. I generally like what they are doing, and can point to those posts.

I too can select posts from someone's ISO and claim they are "questioning/pushing things". If I am going to go to bat for you with my biggest townread, I need more.

You asked me for 3 reads, the black read is a little strained in order to fit the quota of 3. I didn't want to include Firebringer and I didn't want to Include Feysal because while I don't agree with the reason to scumread on them the only reason I have to think they are town is that they are slightly going to bat for me, which isn't strong reasoning, so they are more neutral for me right now still.

Would it clear things up if I said I was leaning town on Black but wasn't sure based on what we have seen so far, instead of saying "town". I'm also not voting for snake right now as I'm not sure they're not just looking awkward right now.

[Dunnstral]

I've never played with Black before, if that is what you are looking for

[Dunnstral]

Wait is this going to be the first game where I am being consensus townread on page 2?
Rather than consensus scumread on that page, that is.

Hold up, who is townreading you on page 2? I went back and checked and didn't see it.

I’ll scumread you too just to make you feel comfortable

Thanks! Not used to being townread before page 10.

I see now that Klick is townreadin you, but why are you acting like everybody is?

Basically I saw 46 as Titus saying she townread me. Maybe I misinterpreted her post.
Anyhow, I didn't mean to imply that EVERYONE was townreading me, but I was sincerely surprised to see 2 townreads (or so I thought) by page 2.

I think that is a fair interpretation that I missed

[Feysal]

Maybe Dunnstral is town and Fey is just giving free town points to Dunn for some reason. That take on Dunns questions is just baffling to me.

Okay, you want my attention? You have it now.

I did not think I would need to explain game basics to someone who has been around as long as you, but apparently I was mistaken. As town you ask questions, you receive answers, you evaluate the answers to see where they are coming from and whether the thought process behind them makes sense for town. Sometimes it results in nothing, sometimes you get a better read on someone, but you keep trying. That is one way to scumhunt, and that is what Dunnstral appeared to be doing. So what did you think of those questions then?

I'm also noticing a weird pattern here. First Dunnstral questions you, and you vote them without answering. Dunn says they did not like your post 26, and you accuse Dunn of being scum. I like Dunn's questioning and also dislike how you brazenly declared you did not get a scum role like you wanted, and you accuse me of being scum with Dunn. And then... suddenly you drop the scumread on Dunn, but I'm still scum in your eyes, because why? How is this read progression supposed to make sense? And after all this, you go back to accusing us of being scum together.

What are you smoking? Seems like you believe offense is the best defense, and attacked the two players who had voiced suspicion of you.

[Titus]

Nope. I'm Investigator!Titus. The wrong answer is like pornography. I know it when I see it.

And with that note, I'm off to bed.

[Dunnstral]

On page 3

He also ends it with saying not sure where snek is coming from but yet doesn't pursue it to ask Snek questions of what he is thinking or where thoughts are. Theres no curiosity there. Its not hunting. Its X is awkward and here is a weird take.

I did ask Snake a question in 54 and they haven't posted since.

[Dunnstral]

That's not blaming Snake, but it is incorrect to say that I am not questioning them

[Dunnstral]

And in fact the question I asked Snake is exactly what I am talking about in that other post where I say I don't know where they are coming from.

[Thestatusquo]

Dunn why are you completely and utterly ignoring me?

[Thestatusquo]

titus will you give some thoughts of your own. I'm not loving this neutral thread interrogator role you seem to be trying to position yourself into.

When the time is right. I'm awaiting Black here specifically.

I will tell you know that I had concerns about you first but waffling. Fire is obvtown btw.

This claim will only offend him.

Him being Fire? Well I can only work with him so much. I don't care what others think of me but I can't fake reads that well as town, even to obscure. I'm a shitty mason (that's not a claim).

this is...a weird response.

I was just saying fb always gets mad at me when I town read him.

[Dunnstral]

I missed your post because I was spending time replying to the 2 above it.

It is not really of concern to me whether Black is "generic" or not... again, I would need somebody to show me why that is scummy instead of asking me to do the reverse, because I don't even see that as scummy or a bad thing in the first place without explanation.

I want to say that this is more of a tone read than one based on the strength of their arguments. I think that they are trying to push things in a town direction, at least, in the questions they choose to ask feeling at least a little important rather than being busy work.