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[Flavor Leaf]

Flyer wise,

Enchant couldn’t have done it.

Aisa couldn’t have.

Furt couldnt have.

I didn’t, and Ice couldn’t.

This leaves Keeper, Hugir, and ActionDan.

how do we know feysal didn't do it?

I just forgot about Feysal. She could have done it.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Feysal’s like so obviously Green Scum I almost don’t want to believe it.

[Abnegation]

do we even need to execute furtive? is there any reason malediction doesn't take the 2f1 if he's invocation?

Well, what if only Furt’s scum team has a kill tonight?

Spoiler: math

worst case scenario is this:
we're currently 2v1v6 (most likely). assuming a town execution, that puts us at 2v1v5, and furtive's kill brings us to 2v1v4. then we execute furtive for being alive and that's 1v1v3 going into night. okay that's kind of bad.

compared to:
2v1v6 ---> we execute furtive and he's red ---> 1v1v5 ---> the 1 nk puts us at 1v1v4, so it's the same going into night if we execute town.

both of these are better if we yeet a scumbucket (duh).

in that scenario, the numbers are the same if we execute furtive today or tomorrow. unless i screwed up my math.

[Abnegation]

VOTE: feysal

[Hugir]

I’ll tell you I have better stuff to do than sending flyers at folks.

I’m going to bed now today has been a rough day (moving day)

[Flavor Leaf]

Is that Hebi or GIF?

[Hugir]

The “FL-must’ve-nexused-at-N2” head

[Flavor Leaf]

@Enchant - Would you be willing to Parity Cop Action Dan?

I think the idea of ActionDan and Furt being partners, and them almost forced to kill you off is kind of hilarious

You don’t have to, do what you like, of course.

[Flavor Leaf]

The “FL-must’ve-nexused-at-N2” head

[Flavor Leaf]

Keeper didn’t send the flyer imo.

That means it’s Feysal or ActionDan, unless it’s a scum role and one of them are lying.

I’m inclined to believe Hugir at face value right now, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Feysal

That’s probably where I was ending up today since Furt Loverizer will be dealt with eventually, and ActionDan I’m not comfortable pushing with the amount I have right now, and would like to wait anyways in case they are town.

[ActionDan]

Hi boonskies!

Nice to see you here! we probably aren't town together this game but I'll be able to properly read your posts tomorrow night

[Flavor Leaf]

Spicyy

[Feysal]

By the way, who sent me that mysterious flyer?

Feysal, was that you?

You figured out my crumb, did you? I was wondering if anyone was ever going to say anything about them, the Keeper never did.

I suppose it is time to claim then. I'm Propagation. I hand out flyers. I'm basically a fruit vendor with a different flavor. I've given out two, one to the Keeper, the second to you.

I think Feysal's like so obviously Green Scum I almost don't want to believe it.

Then don't, because I'm not. I mean, if you had accused me of being Malediction, that I could have understood, but this?

I wrote the original case against Rautherdir at a time when he was widely townread. If not for that, Rautherdir would not even have been an option at the end of the day. Yes, he managed to fool me because he was playing to his town meta, making me think we had two rival wagons on town, and I did not like having to hammer him. Look at my post 589 and tell me if that looks like I would know he was about to flip Benediction?

[Narration]

Day 3 Count II

Feysal (3) - Enchant, Abnegation, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1) - furtiveglance

Not Voting

- The Keeper, ActionDan, Feysal, Hugir, IceDragon70

Notes

• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Keeper is V/LA to Sunday.
  
• I am V/LA to Monday.

Day 3

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-25 11:44:00)

[IceDragon70]

Fuck this.


I am Relation, basically parity cop of variant where i check relationship with previous target. My targets are:
N1: IceDragon. Nothing.
N2: Aisa. Shares alignment with IceDragon.

Furtive just loverised me with self for fucking no reason so my chances to survive next night nosedived anyway.

Wow! Thanks for clearing me but like why are you claiming???

EBWOP

You either failed to understand the claim or are actually trolling me.
You are not clear.

Wasn't Aisa town???

[IceDragon70]

Fuck this.


I am Relation, basically parity cop of variant where i check relationship with previous target. My targets are:
N1: IceDragon. Nothing.
N2: Aisa. Shares alignment with IceDragon.

Furtive just loverised me with self for fucking no reason so my chances to survive next night nosedived anyway.

Wow! Thanks for clearing me but like why are you claiming???

EBWOP

You either failed to understand the claim or are actually trolling me.
You are not clear.

I just re-checked. She was. If I share alignment with Aisa, who is town, then by definition I am town. Aka clear.

[IceDragon70]

I stand by Furtive being today's better option

That kills 2 town for the price of 1

Sounds like it.

[IceDragon70]

Also for the sake of Feysal’s theory we should at least massclaim whether we can roleblock or not

Agreed

[IceDragon70]

I read the D2 finally and… really all I saw was nigh-unanimous “kawaii obv greenscum kthxbye xoxo”

I’ll have to go back to D1.

Yeah we all f'ed up there.

[IceDragon70]

I read a bit more last night.

I'm pretty on board with ice/furtive/enchant town with a small caveat that enchant might have been redirected n2. Not likely enough to worry about.

Red scum candidates:

ActionDan, Abnegation, Hugir, Feysal, FL, Keeper.

I was thinking before kawaii was erased and coming into today before enchant reveal that ice and the keeper had a good chance to be partners for a lot of reasons one of which was ice's scum cop theory's "major flaw" when attempting to clear the keeper. There was no reason in the theory that red scum couldn't use it on themselves. In any case ice very likely isn't scum at all, so this is shot otherwise i would have been distracted by it. However I do remember keeper and snakelet's interaction D1 and at the time it sounded to me something along the lines of "back off we're masons" (or similar) but with a parity cop out that's definitely not the case. Of the pool above those 2 strike me as much less town than the rest and that's currently my working theory. A more through rereading for me is in order though.

Green scum candidates:

ActionDan, Abnegation, Hugir, Feysal, FL

Sadly unless more roles come out to explain the lack of kills two nights in a row, the possibility of abnegation being green scum is quite plausible as feysal suggests. My heart doesn't agree but head does. Interactions with rauth and D1 wagonomics don't preclude this either (in fairness they don't preclude anyone aside from me, objectively).

If I were to vote right now, I think I'd vote FL just because that's probably the one person with the most scum equity to me of any color.

But will need to reread and I'll only have time Thursday night so 1.5 days away. If we make it to the weekend that would be great too

Cut: I cant roleblock

Good analysis, I also think Keeper has some scum equity, but as I am seeing the Feysal votes piling am gonna have a look at what's driving those.

[furtiveglance]

I read the D2 finally and… really all I saw was nigh-unanimous “kawaii obv greenscum kthxbye xoxo”

I’ll have to go back to D1.

Yeah we all f'ed up there.

I disagree, Kawaii was really scummy.

[IceDragon70]

Could be a Weak role, or some way to light investigate you.

I am leaning town on Ab after the last couple pages. That’s good.

Strong town reads on Enchant, Keeper, Ab, and Hugir based on a mix of things. Ice Dragon by Mech, and likely not Green anyways.

VCA, actions, happenings, vibes, setup.

I do understand the Arsonist paranoia now, but I figure just accept it if so, and play as if it’s not until something shows us otherwise.

Care to explain Keeper townread? I don't see it.

[IceDragon70]

Aisa was townreading me.

Also, scum will obviously kill Enchant tonight and any claim otherwise is kind of outting.

True.

[IceDragon70]

Flyer wise,

Enchant couldn’t have done it.

Aisa couldn’t have.

Furt couldnt have.

I didn’t, and Ice couldn’t.

This leaves Keeper, Hugir, and ActionDan.

And Feysal?