TM 2023 | Mini Normal | Endgame

[Shirou]

I also went "HMMM" on you being so seemingly uninterested on the development of me vs Koba

You posted exactly 2 minutes after Xof first popped in, so it implies you were around following the game, but to me you didn't give a clear stance on what you think of it while everyone else that posted in that time-frame (Kowah, DeasVail, Ydra and Xof) all did.

You questioned me a bit early on but you were more exploring potential explanations for Koba behavior rather than pushing forward how you see it

[Ausuka]

Your argument was surprisingly boring and based on the idea that 180s are scummy. Like, I don't care about Koba's meta, they aren't scummy period.

I don't see why you expect me to engage with your points when you have totally ignored mine the entire time

[Ausuka]

Like I tried to think about you or koba independently but the argument itself just wasn't interesting

[Shirou]

maybe because if I'm doing more than other slots that implies I'm not doing nothing and you said I was doing nothing

I never said "nothing". Now that's twisting/exaggerating my words. I even recognized you were putting more effort than some other slots.

do you disagree with my take that you've done a lot of questioning but

hasn't given

a lot

of stances/explaining your stances in the game so far?

Also, I said you were doing a lot of something (questioning) but not a lot of something else

[Shirou]

I don't see why you expect me to engage with your points when you have totally ignored mine the entire time

I don't think I ignored you at all? Perhaps you found my answers lacking, but I tried to reply everything you/others threw at me in some capacity.

I feel you're once again exaggerating what I said or did to establish false narratives right now...

I do admit to have done it towards Koba a bit as well but I do think this is more interesting coming from you than from me considering how we're

[Ausuka]

maybe because if I'm doing more than other slots that implies I'm not doing nothing and you said I was doing nothing

I never said "nothing". Now that's twisting/exaggerating my words. I even recognized you were putting more effort than some other slots.

do you disagree with my take that you've done a lot of questioning but

hasn't given

a lot

of stances/explaining your stances in the game so far?

Also, I said you were doing a lot of something (questioning) but not a lot of something else

That's just nitpicking. It's obvious what the idea of "not solving" implies and I think I've easily solved more than most slots in the game. I'm trying to actually push someone, which you have totally ignored all this time, while half of the game is just not voting.

[Shirou]

Like, I may have missed one but tell me one of your questions that I didn't try replying

When did I ignore you?

[Ausuka]

The italiano thing? You didn't respond to anything I said, you just said "town for ate lol"

[Ausuka]

Maybe I should do that too

Koba is town for ate

There I've made a stance

[Shirou]

The italiano thing? You didn't respond to anything I said, you just said "town for ate lol"

I think that still doesn't count as ignoring, but I'll admit on hindsight I thought I had given a more in-depth reply than this

Shirou are you mad at me
Also I think you said you were going to read over italiano, did anything come of that

Oh sorry I forgot to reply your question, no I'm not mad at you why would I be?

about italiano...did I actually promise that? I read his AtE posts and felt it was genuine and DGB backed off (I saw her as the one giving the most credibility to the push because I don't remember exactly which games, but I've the mental image of her as a very capable town player), I'll probably do it at some point but I'm afraid not today

I don't think this is really

ignoring

but eh, I confess it was definitely lower effort compared to some of my other replies to Ydra or pocketing for example.

[Shirou]

Maybe I should do that too

Koba is town for ate

There I've made a stance

I did just expand to you about Italiano though as well

Is any other answer than "I also scumread Italiano and wanna lim him" like most of the game so unacceptable?

[Ausuka]

Oh most people want to lim italiano? that's news to me considering most people have also refused to vote for him

[Ausuka]

your "elaboration" was completely without depth. It was basically just accusing me of being scum without any substance and therefore Italiano is in the right, without actually substantiating your statement that he is "struggling to understand me" (with a three word dismissive reply)

[Shirou]

I'm not sure anyone has been as monotone about their read on Italiano as much as you

I think a lot of people second-guessed themselves with their AtE and in general have been interested in more slots rather than just him, but after a brief spat with Ydra, you conclude she's scum but isn't as interested on her as Italiano as far as I can see

One of the big reasons I'm so hesitant about Italiano is that this a large part of this game has revolved around shading/voting him by slots that I'm not comfortable with.

[Ausuka]

Also the irony of your read on me vs your read on Italiano is pretty palpable.

Despite giving reads, participating and pushing people throughout the game for some reason you don't elaborate on it's not enough and therefore I must be scum.

italiano just says i was always going to vote him, refuses to elaborate when i ask, sorts people in broad strokes by their activity level and then dips and that isn't even worth mentioning or talking about

[Ausuka]

I'm not sure anyone has been as monotone about their read on Italiano as much as you

I think a lot of people second-guessed themselves with their AtE and in general have been interested in more slots rather than just him, but after a brief spat with Ydra, you conclude she's scum but isn't as interested on her as Italiano as far as I can see

One of the big reasons I'm so hesitant about Italiano is that this a large part of this game has revolved around shading/voting him by slots that I'm not comfortable with.

What do you even want at this point? Like I have to townread the ate, or I have to be interested in pushing other slots just as much? Literally why?

[Shirou]

actually substantiating your statement that he is "struggling to understand me"

What does "substantiating" could even mean then to you?

I quoted a post that made me feel like he was puzzled about your engagement with him, sending an emoji expressing that and all.

What else can I even do to "substantiate" other than quoting the exact post that made me think something? Write a P.h.D thesis about a interaction that lasted a few posts?

[Ausuka]

I don't think you actually believe that an emoji amounts to "struggling to understand" someone in a way that is relevant to reading them

[Ausuka]

Whatever I will dip for now so the thread isn't spammed too much I will respond to anything else you have to say later ^.^

[Shirou]

Also the irony of your read on me vs your read on Italiano is pretty palpable.

In your own words:

come on the guy just is not here that's different.

But also, you're dismissing his read list as "activity bases sorting" at the same time he has Aisa/Malakittens (not inactive but not that active) as top town reads over me, by far the most active one.

You can say his ISO is bad without trying to dismiss everything he has done, I feel he has pushed a gamesolve including town reads in far less time than you've been here for.

[Shirou]

Whatever I will dip for now so the thread isn't spammed too much I will respond to anything else you have to say later ^.^

Bye-bye~

[DrippingGoofball]

CONFIRM

VOTE: Arko

I am NOT satisfied at all with the lazy catch up. It barely qualifies as a catch up.

[DrippingGoofball]

koba:

i have a very strong sense of Doom right now like that I am wrong about everything

also koba:

kowah is just my little pet townie thats gonna get carried and realize they kinda were being silly when they see my name as one of the nightkills

From impending doom to I'm so good I'll be night killed. Like I said, that is fake paranoia.

That is a clever observation that I agree with.

[DrippingGoofball]

LOCKTOWN Shirou

[Shirou]

[] - just town
[] - townlean
[Mastina, DrippingGoofball, Aisa, ItalianoVD] - nulltown
[DeasVail, Kowahbunga, , Xofelf, Ydrasse, Arko] - null
[DkKoba, Malakittens] - nullscum
[Ausuka] - scumlean
[] - just scum

I think this is where I'm at right now, lacking people on the townlean category. I don't have much confidence on not being wrong in my nulltown tier somewhere. Arko was demoted to null and kowah was "promoted" back to null from nullscum since last readlist.