Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[Flavor Leaf]

Suffice to say, I admit that the 3 best options to fade today are Abnegation, Hugir, or ActionDan.

ActionDan vs Hugir have that redirect confusion, but the Goldfish theory kinda can explain that.

ActionDan has a N1 Disturbed action, which even if he were scum, i think they’re telling the truth, and could be targeted by scum.

Note there could be multiple scum in that group of 3, however, I don’t think all of them are.

Abnegation I had already stated could be lying about their claim. It was a good claim to get them here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Whatcha playing?

I think I’m leaning Abnegation for today. It makes sense they came to pocket me early as well with helping me and interacting directly early this day phase.

[Abnegation]

Why now?

i don't think their push on me is honest.
they're not addressing my points and they're misrepresenting rauth's posts, likely to fit a narrative that makes me look suspicious.

[Abnegation]

What good would flip flopping on Abnegation that way do me as scum? You think a person can’t immediately flip a read after working things through? They were also directly interacting with me more, so I feel at least a friendly banter easily could warrant it based on how I felt during them and I talking to each other.

I didn’t feel like they were trying to do anything to deceive me at all, and they were even here helping me work things out.

We both landed on Feysal, which I think is common ground and makes sense I could town read them considering we share the same read, at the very least pressuring together is really only beneficial to at least see what happens gamestate wise.

Why wouldn’t it seem real?

how'd me helping you go from being towny to being scummy?

[ActionDan]

Whatcha playing?

League, my computer's gpu has been so fucked up for the past few months that I can't play fun steam games anymore. So its League or netflix. or DBD on console but my desire to play that game comes and goes.

As far as I'm concerned I've made the best effort I could to look at Abnegations points and I simply do not agree / see what they see. there might be a couple other ways to explain one kill a night so far aside from the probable jailkeeping of scum but they sure don't exist in abnormal kills from Rauth's posts.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nice, nice. You seem like a Diamond+ player for League.

I’m happy with my casual silver MVP right now.

@Abnegation - I’ve made no hard conclusions, I just get it on a pure analytical level while your flip can confirm a lot, and see the world.

On a personal level, I started to town read you, but as ActionDan mentioned, it was a quick flip, and that seems to be directly based on the personal interaction, and could be something you as scum could have done to try and ease me away, and if so, worked.

Hope my thought process comes away from where I’m at.

[Abnegation]

yeah, that seems fair.
i'm probably out for the night. need to actually process all the chaos that happened in this game today.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve been playing The Mageseeker, the league of legends game that came out this week. It’s solid, i don’t play a lot of single player games nowadays, but like the world, but I even read the League of Legends book Ruination, and I liked it.

And of course, I liked Arcane, I give it a 9.9 out of 10. Maybe a 9.8, but still big.

The world they’re starting to do is getting me more than the game, the game just hits that hyper casual competitive niche for me

[Narration]

I just returned from my vacation. I'll make the VC later tonight or tommorrow morning.

[furtiveglance]

I’ve been playing The Mageseeker, the league of legends game that came out this week. It’s solid, i don’t play a lot of single player games nowadays, but like the world, but I even read the League of Legends book Ruination, and I liked it.

And of course, I liked Arcane, I give it a 9.9 out of 10. Maybe a 9.8, but still big.

The world they’re starting to do is getting me more than the game, the game just hits that hyper casual competitive niche for me

Who are your 3 picks for the 3 scum remaining

[Hugir]

Day 3 Count GIF

Feysal (2) - Enchant, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1) - furtiveglance
Hugir (1) - IceDragon70
ActionDan (1) - Abnegation
Abnegation (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- The Keeper, Feysal, Hugir

Notes

• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Keeper is V/LA to Sunday.
  
• I am V/LA to Monday.

Day 3

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-25 11:44:00)

Unofficial VC for notes

[Hugir]

I’ll decide my vote my tomorrow
This game is actually hella mind boggling

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve been playing The Mageseeker, the league of legends game that came out this week. It’s solid, i don’t play a lot of single player games nowadays, but like the world, but I even read the League of Legends book Ruination, and I liked it.

And of course, I liked Arcane, I give it a 9.9 out of 10. Maybe a 9.8, but still big.

The world they’re starting to do is getting me more than the game, the game just hits that hyper casual competitive niche for me

Who are your 3 picks for the 3 scum remaining

idk, gotta think on it. i do believe my posts give some indication, though of my thoughts on most slots.

[Feysal]

The fact Feysal waited until after Rauth showed up and gave up is nasty to me.

This confirmation bias of yours is getting a little silly. If you read my ISO, you should have seen me mention I set my clock to wake me up before deadline. My location on my profile is there for a reason, so people would know my time zone. I'd stayed up to something like 5 AM trying to figure out what to do.

I have read all the posts I missed, and seen a lot of wild and some not so wild theories, but I'm in no state to think about them right now. I have developed a nasty toothache, and can't focus. Going to see a dentist tomorrow.

I'm right now pretty much where I was at the start of the day, with the roleblocks pointing to Abnegation.

[Narration]

Day 3 Count III

Feysal (2) - Enchant, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1) - furtiveglance
Hugir (1) - IceDragon70
ActionDan (1) - Abnegation
Abnegation (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- The Keeper, Feysal, Hugir

Notes

• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if I missed any votes or questions.

Day 3

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-25 11:44:00)

[Narration]

Prodding Enchant

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact Feysal waited until after Rauth showed up and gave up is nasty to me.

This confirmation bias of yours is getting a little silly. If you read my ISO, you should have seen me mention I set my clock to wake me up before deadline. My location on my profile is there for a reason, so people would know my time zone. I'd stayed up to something like 5 AM trying to figure out what to do.

I have read all the posts I missed, and seen a lot of wild and some not so wild theories, but I'm in no state to think about them right now. I have developed a nasty toothache, and can't focus. Going to see a dentist tomorrow.

I'm right now pretty much where I was at the start of the day, with the roleblocks pointing to Abnegation.

Still think it’s nasty and warrantable of a scum read if you end up being town. It’s not bad play or anything, just nasty in the scum tingling sense.

If you read all the posts you missed, you’d see I’ve even been leaning away from the possibility of you as scum based on my AbnegationScum understanding.

[Flavor Leaf]

I even like specifically stated Hugir, Abnegation, AD were likely the best votes for the day.

You’re just looking salty for the vote still on you, but i think I brought that up already too

[Feysal]

Still think it’s nasty and warrantable of a scum read if you end up being town. It’s not bad play or anything, just nasty in the scum tingling sense.

I just quoted that one because it felt silly from my perspective. And yes, I had read everything, and knew your current position.

[Flavor Leaf]

Then if you are town, you’re using your singular pov to rationalize it as silly while trying to dismiss it as such when from my pov, there’s nothing that shows that it’s not warranted a piece of the discussional pie.

Just looks overly defensive

[Flavor Leaf]

I see that as more of a scum tactic than a town one myself

[Flavor Leaf]

Could almost be a ‘right for the wrong reasons’ type of defense if you end up being Red Scum

[furtiveglance]

I still think Abnegation is town. Why?

Their claim is risky if false: investigatives would be able to disprove the claim in certain scenarios.

So if you want to sell Abnegation as scum then, you really have to believe in a scum role which actually shows as the opposite scumteam every other night, which seems like an unlikely role to put in to me.

The Keeper remains suspicious to me due to the likelihood of their non-Benediction announcement having come from scum (and the already-stated benefit of self-targeting with such a role)

If it came down to ActionDan vs Hugir, I'd probably vote for AD.

My reads currently look something like this:

Enchant, IceDragon70
Abnegation
Feysal, Flavor Leaf, Hugir
ActionDan, The Keeper

I think we should probably agree to let IceDragon lead the elimination today, since they are confirmed by Enchant (and that does not look like scum/scum to me at all). I'm slightly concerned by the voices in the POE themselves being louder than the towny voices today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Follow the townie is like a compromise wagon, and if the townie is off, it benefits scum more than town.


I’m leaning the same direction as ID anyways, though, but does give me hesitation on ADScum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Annoyingly, i do think I’d lean AD over Hugir, which I don’t necessarily like that we all lean that way right now