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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:47 am

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Aureal (E-2): Enchant, yessiree

Not Voting (5): Black, The Bulge, furtiveglance, Aureal, Oclaxian Empire

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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 am

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In post 1662, Black wrote: Can you give me the tl;dr on why Bulge is scum? I haven't looked into his iso but I have TR'ed him pretty much all game

Also you're sure yessiree is scum now even though you thought python was town? What has been so bad about their posting?

The second line is what I wanted to say. The first line I can answer because I've already asked it. "No I can't."

Unless he feels like trying harder for you because you're now somehow his top townread. :(
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:25 am

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In post 1671, Black wrote:
In post 1670, yessiree wrote: black let me ask you a question, what's ur step 2 after you get the game solve

play hope mafia and hope the teams cross kill each other like Aureal?

ninja'd :evil: :evil:
My step 2 is to try and lim scum and see what happens afterwards

It's funny because I thought about it some more and realized that if we get to 2:1:1 we can actually still win if we eliminate town, but not if we eliminate scum.

What even is this game.
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:29 am

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In post 1677, Aureal wrote:
In post 1671, Black wrote:
In post 1670, yessiree wrote: black let me ask you a question, what's ur step 2 after you get the game solve

play hope mafia and hope the teams cross kill each other like Aureal?

ninja'd :evil: :evil:
My step 2 is to try and lim scum and see what happens afterwards

It's funny because I thought about it some more and realized that if we get to 2:1:1 we can actually still win if we eliminate town, but not if we eliminate scum.

What even is this game.
Whoa
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:31 am

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Anyway I still want to hear more from Black about me! I've been expectantly awaiting this talk and all I've gotten so far is "just feels like Aureal is scum" and that makes me sad. :(
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 am

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UNVOTE:

I guess it's complicated
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:52 am

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In post 1679, Aureal wrote: Anyway I still want to hear more from Black about me! I've been expectantly awaiting this talk and all I've gotten so far is "just feels like Aureal is scum" and that makes me sad. :(
Sorry, my priorities are elsewhere atm. I haven't even gotten the chance to dive into your ISO to confirm my meta read. Well I probably did have the chance but I didn't take it. Anyway, I have the day off tomorrow so I plan on spending some time on stuff I've been putting off. I'll try to solidify my read here but I still think I'm right about you
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:54 pm

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VOTE: The Bulge

I want to be right on a scum this game.

If other scum want to help vote scum, feel free.
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:02 pm

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In post 1681, Black wrote:
In post 1679, Aureal wrote: Anyway I still want to hear more from Black about me! I've been expectantly awaiting this talk and all I've gotten so far is "just feels like Aureal is scum" and that makes me sad. :(
Sorry, my priorities are elsewhere atm. I haven't even gotten the chance to dive into your ISO to confirm my meta read. Well I probably did have the chance but I didn't take it. Anyway, I have the day off tomorrow so I plan on spending some time on stuff I've been putting off. I'll try to solidify my read here but I still think I'm right about you

I understand, it's the same for me ofc. This hasn't been the priority. This is a game I signed up for against my better judgment just because I saw the people involved and couldn't help it. This is the biggest, most active game (on day one) that I've been a part of and I've been quite busy with long workdays and little free time so I was barely hanging in there keeping up with it. I've been running more on gut here, and obviously that's not working out well. I'm not too happy with how I've played either. But it feels pretty bad for you to pop up, see I've got two LOL Y NOT votes on me, and decide to keep on this track as if an "oh but don't flash wagon" aside is going to do anything to stop that. It's time for us to dig down and reassess, but it feels like maybe you've just given up.

Also, I've said it before in other places, but I feel like trying to meta me is just not going to work well. I play the game I've got. Plenty of people have tried to scumread me off of meta, pointing at some other game and talking about how different I feel from that town game. My games are not the same, so I don't think I act that much the same, within certain parameters. If you think differently, please let me know why, I like feedback about myself. :mrgreen:

In post 1682, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: The Bulge

I want to be right on a scum this game.

If other scum want to help vote scum, feel free.
I want to be right too! I wish wanting was enough to make it so. :?

I'm kinda partway there on this one. I was somewhat townreading him but mostly from tone. I did skim his ISO when looking into Mala though, and saw a lot of defense of her there which I took to support them being partners. I guess it could be buddying though.

I'll have more time to review things and try to come up with a direction soon, because I'm pretty lost now.
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:31 pm

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In post 1683, Aureal wrote: Also, I've said it before in other places, but I feel like trying to meta me is just not going to work well. I play the game I've got. Plenty of people have tried to scumread me off of meta, pointing at some other game and talking about how different I feel from that town game. My games are not the same, so I don't think I act that much the same, within certain parameters. If you think differently, please let me know why, I like feedback about myself.
I feel you here and I know exactly where you're coming from regarding meta. I'll try to reassess when I have time
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:40 pm

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In post 1677, Aureal wrote:
In post 1671, Black wrote:
In post 1670, yessiree wrote: black let me ask you a question, what's ur step 2 after you get the game solve

play hope mafia and hope the teams cross kill each other like Aureal?

ninja'd :evil: :evil:
My step 2 is to try and lim scum and see what happens afterwards

It's funny because I thought about it some more and realized that if we get to 2:1:1 we can actually still win if we eliminate town, but not if we eliminate scum.

What even is this game.
if we get to 2:1:1 and elim town, it's a draw, at that point mafia will never shoot each other because shooting town/no action gives higher EV than shooting the other mafia
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:49 pm

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only out i see is to transpose to 2:1 but thats entirely dependent upon night kills
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:50 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:03 am

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I'm high on hopium that Mafia will crosskill
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:37 am

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Oclaxian Empire is being prodded.
The Bulge is due for their third prod and is being replaced for inactivity.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:48 am

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VOTE: The Bulge

i say we just kill bulge and save our mod the trouble, decent chance of flipping scum
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:49 am

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In post 1690, yessiree wrote: VOTE: The Bulge

i say we just kill bulge and save our mod the trouble, decent chance of flipping scum
I agree that there's a decent chance but why do you find him scummy?
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:56 am

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it's just a poe read because he's not one of my townreads
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 am

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why aren't you voting if you agree there's a decent chance of that slot flipping scum?
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:03 am

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yessiree wrote:why aren't you voting if you agree there's a decent chance of that slot flipping scum?
VOTE: yessiree

The chance Bulge flips scum is purely mathematical to me. I think there's a better chance you flip scum though
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Results are kind of all over the place here but I still think python's frequent vote switching on D1 is alignment indicative. It really felt like they were in survival mode and the opportunistic vibe is something I don't like coming from python. They felt too manipulative

This is where I want to go today but that might change if I dig deeper into ISOs
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:12 am

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just say if u dont want to have a conversation with me, you know anything i say about python is gonna be biased

you're wrong tho
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:16 am

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In post 1695, yessiree wrote: just say if u dont want to have a conversation with me, you know anything i say about python is gonna be biased

you're wrong tho
We can have a conversation all day if you want. I'm not sure anything you say can get me off my read but I'm more than willing to listen
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:18 am

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I want yessiree dead. That’s my prodge
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:21 am

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In post 1697, Oclaxian Empire wrote: I want yessiree dead. That’s my prodge
that sucks
u were one of my top tr :?
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:24 am

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In post 1698, yessiree wrote:
In post 1697, Oclaxian Empire wrote: I want yessiree dead. That’s my prodge
that sucks
u were one of my top tr :?
This feels like a pocketing attempt. How does him wanting to kill you affect your read on him?
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