Mini Normal 2299 | Postgame [Village win]

[Doctor Drew]

I did not target Bulge.

Also, I tend to believe that FL's intentions are righteous here.

[Enchant]

I did not target Bulge.

Also, I tend to believe that FL's intentions are righteous here.

I don't.

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VC 2-I

Not Voting (11):

Alianna, bristep123, Deltabreedy, Doctor Drew, Emperor flippyNips, Enchant, Flavor Leaf, Hu Tao, KittyTacky, redFF, Theta Alpine

With 11 alive, it takes 6 for an execution.

Modnotes:

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2023-05-07 10:00:00).
  
• There was a mistake in the last VC; The Bulge was still listed as if they were still alive.

[redFF]

The Mew wagon developed stupid quick with people just hopping on with what felt like very little progression - do you not agree?

Eh. He was scummy enough for a day 1 lim.

[redFF]

Ninja'd: why are we playing Flavour's game here? Like I just don't see why you're blindly following it - if they clicked their fingers and ask would you leap off a cliff too?

I find it hard to see the scum motivation for FL claiming this here out of the blue. So im willing to go along with him.

[Hu Tao]

Agreed

[Alianna]

Hell yeah, 3 people targeted Bulge last night.

I'm a Multitasking JOAT with a Watcher ability and a Tracker-Finder ability.

I targeted Bulge with my Watch and got 2 names back, and I targeted Doctor Drew with the other, he is not Tracker.

So we gonna do a fun little trust game.

Gonna need everyone to claim 'I did not target Bulge' or 'I targeted Bulge with a _____ action'

Fill in the blank with your action please.

Interesting.

[Alianna]

I did not target The Bulge.

[Enchant]

100% FL claim is bullshit btw.

[Alianna]

I believe it.

[Enchant]

I believe it.

Cuz you naive.

[Theta Alpine]

is it really so hard to understand why there would be a preferred order to claiming

i am present but as someone with comprehension of intent i will wait to claim until the other three claim their actions

having said that
this really has not improved in my eyes at all so until what info flavor leaf ends up uncovering is revealed
VOTE: deltabreedy
and by not improved i mean
wow
that was just

okay quick lesson
town elimination in early game is better then no elimination in nearly all situations
night kill is somewhat incriminating but i could also see it in a world where delta is being set up for a mislim
however
with deltas first post this day in consideration
either you do not have any experience with gambits or
well
trying a bit too hard to steer things
not necessarily scummy to do so but along with everything else i have noticed

[Theta Alpine]

i should be able to do a proper reads list later once i do a full read through though
i may wait until flavor leafs info has been fully unveiled
along with any other info that gets revealed at that time

[Theta Alpine]

Firstly, what on earth was that Mew wagon - can someone explain that for me?

I don't recall there being much anti-Mew sentiment so for them to just get so suddenly offed was pretty awful. I'd wager good money that scum is on the wagon there.

Second - I think doing what Flavour suggested is daft. I don't buy it.

mew wagon was at first just
i do not fully understand why it happened actually
so i cannot really explain how it started

as for why they got eliminated though
really it is as simple as
they were the easiest to get to elimination at day end

also
what flavor leaf is doing right now is almost always more harmful to scum then it is to town
i will not however
explain why until it has run its course
as to do so would be to tell scum the proper way to play in this situation

[Enchant]

what flavor leaf is doing right now is almost always more harmful to scum then it is to town

I know what FL doing and it's harmful for town.

[Theta Alpine]

what flavor leaf is doing right now is almost always more harmful to scum then it is to town

I know what FL doing and it's harmful for town.

well
i will explain my reasons for saying it is more harmful to scum once everyone has claimed and flavor leaf reveals their info
and then we can argue about it then

[Alianna]

I do have one thing to say about the plan, but I'm not sure if I should bring it up now or if I should wait until we have all the claims.

[Enchant]

It's not really gonna help if everyone notice but "oh well i won't speak why" publically for no reason.

Literally lol.

[Theta Alpine]

It's not really gonna help if everyone notice but "oh well i won't speak why" publically for no reason.

Literally lol.

scum are not always competent

and for a brief glimpse but not the whole picture
the worst case scenario if flavor leaf is town telling the truth is one scum found with two town lost
this claiming process helps reduce the odds of us getting that worst case scenario

and anyways i do plan on revealing what i know at the end anyways
i am very conveniently at the end of the claiming order now

[Enchant]

It's not really gonna help if everyone notice but "oh well i won't speak why" publically for no reason.

Literally lol.

scum are not always competent

and for a brief glimpse but not the whole picture
the worst case scenario if flavor leaf is town telling the truth is one scum found with two town lost
this claiming process helps reduce the odds of us getting that worst case scenario

and anyways i do plan on revealing what i know at the end anyways
i am very conveniently at the end of the claiming order now

Your guess why i claimed early while being at end of order as well?

[Theta Alpine]

to be fair that part of claiming is not always as town-beneficial
it can be if flavor has good reads but if not uh

[Alianna]

It's not really gonna help if everyone notice but "oh well i won't speak why" publically for no reason.

Literally lol.

scum are not always competent

and for a brief glimpse but not the whole picture
the worst case scenario if flavor leaf is town telling the truth is one scum found with two town lost
this claiming process helps reduce the odds of us getting that worst case scenario

and anyways i do plan on revealing what i know at the end anyways
i am very conveniently at the end of the claiming order now

Worst case scenario is actually that scum have a ninja, both Bulge visitors are town, and we've just told the scum who all the PRs are.
I don't know the first thing about mini normals despite having recently modded one, but if there's a watcher/tracker-finder and an implied tracker (or is tracker-finder with no tracker a thing?), there's probably something to counter that.

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