Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[Hugir]

Wait, there’s probably only one kill per night anyways.

There might not be Multitasking scum then.

Let me tell you why scum must have multitasking.

We know that scum has the following:
1. Some sort of factional ability
2. Their role
3. Factional kill

Unless you're assuming something silly like 3-men scumteam, one member has to perform more than one action to fully utilize their kit via pigeonhole principle.

[Flavor Leaf]

It feels like you’re trying to make it so there has to be a Roleblocker in this game, and if you’re town, fine, that can be a solution, but I don’t have any reason to be able to take that at face value. I have to trust you completely with it.

That’s the issue. If you’re town, you’re doing the right stuff, but you gotta see why it’s hard to trust that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Wait, there’s probably only one kill per night anyways.

There might not be Multitasking scum then.

Let me tell you why scum must have multitasking.

We know that scum has the following:
1. Some sort of factional ability
2. Their role
3. Factional kill

Unless you're assuming something silly like 3-men scumteam, one member has to perform more than one action to fully utilize their kit via pigeonhole principle.

Idk if there’s proof for #1

[Flavor Leaf]

And alternating kills between scum teams cancels it out too. Using ability on night they don’t have the kill makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

And you’re the only one besides Feysal with an action that seems to be unlimited, so it really doesn’t apply to anyone else herr

[Hugir]

Yeah, but that’s just as much a reason for why you would do it like that as scum.

:shrug:

It really all boils down to this.
Why intentionally choose a hard and risky path when I can choose much easier path and achieve the same result.
For one of the laziest player in this site, that is simply unthinkable for me.
Like it's actually very frustrating. But I can't blame it on others not knowing me. That's not how the game works at all.
Therefore I gotta keep on trying.

[Hugir]

Idk if there’s proof for #1

It's in flipped scum's role PM. It says "your PT has all your factional ability explained."
Like if scum only had factional kill as an ability, why would mod go through all that instead of, you know, just stating that scum has factional kill in the role PM?

[Flavor Leaf]

Furt being a JOAT like makes sense in a possible scumFurt world.

Idk, i kind of like the one way Loverizer in this setup here, and think they’ve answered well today.

[Hugir]

Malediction (Passive): As a disciple of Malediction with …, you have access to a vacuum located here, where you will receive knowledge of your factional ability.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, but that’s just as much a reason for why you would do it like that as scum.

:shrug:

It really all boils down to this.
Why intentionally choose a hard and risky path when I can choose much easier path and achieve the same result.
For one of the laziest player in this site, that is simply unthinkable for me.
Like it's actually very frustrating. But I can't blame it on others not knowing me. That's not how the game works at all.
Therefore I gotta keep on trying.

You’re saying it’s hard and risky, but I think it’s helped you so much more.

If that’s the case, why do anything risky as scum? Because the reward is usually too good to pass up.

[Hugir]

You’re saying it’s hard and risky, but I think it’s helped you so much more.

If that’s the case, why do anything risky as scum? Because the reward is usually too good to pass up.

See that's what I'm talking about risk vs reward.
If I can take the easier path to achieve the same thing, why risk?
If paying a dollar and paying a dime achieve a same result, would you pay a dollar?

[Flavor Leaf]

Then it’s Furt and Keeper.

[Hugir]

Like you can just go look at it yourself.
Decide yourself if you were in same situation as me, would you triple the effort just to achieve the same result that could be done by 1/3 of the effort?

[Flavor Leaf]

Oi. Where’s Hebichan

[Hugir]

Hebi flaked on me loooooooooong time ago, before the game even started.
The only time I was able to get her to post something was back then near the end of D2 when I was in V/LA and basically pleaded to make a post.
Such is my fate when I'm hydraing.
Alisae's love hydra game all over again.

With that said

And you’re the only one besides Feysal with an action that seems to be unlimited, so it really doesn’t apply to anyone else herr

ID had an unlimited role. So did Kawaii's.

[Hugir]

Oh to not discredit Hebi
She did offer me an insight N2.
That was about it.
That's also why I took a jab at her when I lolclaimed scum.

[Hugir]

Then it’s Furt and Keeper.

That's where I am at right now, yes.
I'm still taking my time to go over things.
But honestly I don't see it changing unless you scumslip very hard, and even then I might not even notice that due to how I'm sure on this.

[Flavor Leaf]

Where do we kill first?

[Hugir]

I vastly prefer furtive because roleblock.
But honestly I'm beginning to think it doesn't even matter who I vote first because scum will no kill and we'll probably have to settle it MeLo.

Also I prefer to drag this day a bit while I keep thinking. There is also one of my favorite gotcha-scumtell that can only be seen in ELo/MeLo.

[Hugir]

Btw explain to me where you found furt obvtown today.

[Hugir]

Furt being a JOAT like makes sense in a possible scumFurt world.

Idk, i kind of like the one way Loverizer in this setup here, and think they’ve answered well today.

I like to think roleblock as a factional, because literally all of the roles are single-roles. Maybe except Aisa's role, since it's multiple roles combined into one, but it was still one role nonetheless.

[Hugir]

I vastly prefer furtive because roleblock.
But honestly I'm beginning to think it doesn't even matter who I vote first because scum will no kill and we'll probably have to settle it MeLo.

Also I prefer to drag this day a bit while I keep thinking. There is also one of my favorite gotcha-scumtell that can only be seen in ELo/MeLo.

Also I'd like to use most of this day to squash any sort of "Hugir is scum" arguments.
So if y'all dare, bring it. Come up with anything, even anything outlandish.

Because I already know what shit I'll have to deal with next game day, and I'd rather do it now when I'm actually motivated, since my motivation tends to fluctuate very hard.

[Hugir]

Btw explain to me where you found furt obvtown today.

Because all he really did today was "you can't possibly be serious."

[The Keeper]

I have been largely unwell for the last couple days, this here is a promise to dedicate some time later today (its just last midnight here) to diffusing some of this with my mechanical magnificance, speculative sparkle and illustrious insight.

[furtiveglance]

Btw explain to me where you found furt obvtown today.

Because all he really did today was "you can't possibly be serious."

Because your push is a massive reach