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I also have some outside odds at Datisi being town but those worlds almost exclusively look weird. It's why I'm confident on Datisi and JJH.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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How well thought out is this?In post 4174, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
JJH/Datisi/MenaIn post 4173, Alisae wrote: Hey LLD, I would like to understand what teams it is that you see.
JJH/Datisi/Bella
JJH/Datisi/You
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I am there on you with Datisi because I think targeting Ythan is odd. Like, why is that happening? How did that happen? These are details I'm not really sure about.In post 4175, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I also have some outside odds at Datisi being town but those worlds almost exclusively look weird. It's why I'm confident on Datisi and JJH.
If I am hooding Ythan's team, I am hooding them for Titus, but that doesn't seem like that was the intent?
jjh obviously needs to play, I vote there if it doesn't.
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I am asking how well thought out 4174 is because at a glance it seems like you just took jjh/Datisi and just threw every unsorted player, and I wanna know if this is the case or if there is logic behind how all of those teams could be real.-
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yes, obviously. Mechanically, either Ythan is faking a guilty (and so Ythan is scum) or Ythan is town (and so JJH is scum).In post 4177, Alisae wrote:
I am there on you with Datisi because I think targeting Ythan is odd. Like, why is that happening? How did that happen? These are details I'm not really sure about.In post 4175, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I also have some outside odds at Datisi being town but those worlds almost exclusively look weird. It's why I'm confident on Datisi and JJH.
If I am hooding Ythan's team, I am hooding them for Titus, but that doesn't seem like that was the intent?
jjh obviously needs to play, I vote there if it doesn't.
I think 1 of {Ythan, jjh} being a wolf is definitely something we can agree on?
Outside world where they are BOTH scum and this is a gambit exists in the back of my mind but that's not something I'm worrying about rn.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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It's mostly just "I'm at JJH+Datisi+One more" and no argument you have given me for why any of those 4 other people can't be the third slot holds enough water so.In post 4178, Alisae wrote: I am asking how well thought out 4174 is because at a glance it seems like you just took jjh/Datisi and just threw every unsorted player, and I wanna know if this is the case or if there is logic behind how all of those teams could be real.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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wynaut?In post 4180, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
It's mostly just "I'm at JJH+Datisi+One more" and no argument you have given me for why any of those 4 other people can't be the third slot holds enough water so.In post 4178, Alisae wrote: I am asking how well thought out 4174 is because at a glance it seems like you just took jjh/Datisi and just threw every unsorted player, and I wanna know if this is the case or if there is logic behind how all of those teams could be real.-
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JJH/Ythan + Datisi + Ali/Mena/Bella/Mith-
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I feel like I am trying to look at the game as a whole and ask questions about why these events are happening if certain people are wolves. If you are telling my that my arguments aren't holding up when you're also telling me "idunno sounds like a problem for the future people" ok you tell me what were wolves doing throughout d1 why did day 1 play out like it did why did staeg get shot why did marashu get shot?
You're asked me to think about why Marashu got shot, and I provided you with a solution that justifies why everything happened and that team also just so happens to be a team that shoots marashu.-
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day 1 was defined by a bunch of townies hitting LHF until they died and scum didn't need to do shit so the staeg wagon unfolding on itelf was either 1) townies deciding it wasn't worth it or 2) scum deciding there was value in not pushing Staeg over the edge and looking town on a back off.In post 4183, Alisae wrote: I feel like I am trying to look at the game as a whole and ask questions about why these events are happening if certain people are wolves. If you are telling my that my arguments aren't holding up when you're also telling me "idunno sounds like a problem for the future people" ok you tell me what were wolves doing throughout d1 why did day 1 play out like it did why did staeg get shot why did marashu get shot?
You're asked me to think about why Marashu got shot, and I provided you with a solution that justifies why everything happened and that team also just so happens to be a team that shoots marashu.
Either way, scum were coasting, Rad imploded on his own damn self... it's a lot.
Imaginality was always dying day 2 so again what do scum need to do but look town and plan for future days.
We have... very little to go off of in prior wagonomics that isn't at least somewhat poisoned by how poorly positioned we are.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Who on this playerlist would feel like they didn't have to do anything? I feel like your approach to this doesn't take into consideration what the players have done, and it doesn't take into consideration what those players might actually do.In post 4184, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
day 1 was defined by a bunch of townies hitting LHF until they died and scum didn't need to do shit so the staeg wagon unfolding on itelf was either 1) townies deciding it wasn't worth it or 2) scum deciding there was value in not pushing Staeg over the edge and looking town on a back off.In post 4183, Alisae wrote: I feel like I am trying to look at the game as a whole and ask questions about why these events are happening if certain people are wolves. If you are telling my that my arguments aren't holding up when you're also telling me "idunno sounds like a problem for the future people" ok you tell me what were wolves doing throughout d1 why did day 1 play out like it did why did staeg get shot why did marashu get shot?
You're asked me to think about why Marashu got shot, and I provided you with a solution that justifies why everything happened and that team also just so happens to be a team that shoots marashu.
Either way, scum were coasting, Rad imploded on his own damn self... it's a lot.
Imaginality was always dying day 2 so again what do scum need to do but look town and plan for future days.
We have... very little to go off of in prior wagonomics that isn't at least somewhat poisoned by how poorly positioned we are.
Why did wolves shoot Staeg and Marashu? Wouldn't shooting Ythan just be a better, more effective, cop hunting shot?
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LLD If you don't care for my logic, then use me as your sounding board. We're voting together so we should be able to at least try to sync w/ one another and I think this is the way to do it.
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idunno I would like to be able to be relied on a little bit-
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i'd be happily doing that if i wasn't literally having to run off to do another medical proceedure or self care thing every hour or so while trying to mix free time activities into it
i'm not at 100Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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here's a question for you
if it's Ythan/Datisi/Mith
show me the interactions between those slots that indicate that, cause Ythan/Mith I'm just not seeing it
but I see a TON of Datisi soft defending Gimli, go look at Datisi's iso for Gimli day 1Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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can you make an attempt to do so before telling me "ya we're doing jjh"In post 4188, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: i'd be happily doing that if i wasn't literally having to run off to do another medical proceedure or self care thing every hour or so while trying to mix free time activities into it
i'm not at 100
if you don't make an attempt to do so and just tell me to vote jjh I am going to post yellow and then get paranoid about it being you ythan and mith-
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yes and then Mith is going to shoot you in the face tonight for antagonizing him because you didn't onboard with us and tried to swing it the other direction and if you're town that really IS game over.In post 4190, Alisae wrote:
can you make an attempt to do so before telling me "ya we're doing jjh"In post 4188, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: i'd be happily doing that if i wasn't literally having to run off to do another medical proceedure or self care thing every hour or so while trying to mix free time activities into it
i'm not at 100
if you don't make an attempt to do so and just tell me to vote jjh I am going to post yellow and then get paranoid about it being you ythan and mith
I've been giving you my ear on EVERYTHING. I don't have to do this.
do you notice we're te ONLY PEOPLE TALKING besides Mith? Why is mith out here arguing with you? It's like the town went fucking dead on purpose, prod dodging because one of two things is true
1) you're scum and trying to sway me
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2) you're town and ONE OF US IS WRONG and if they can let us come to the wrong conclusion on our own they don't need to do SHIT about it.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If anything, for me, Mith is town BECAUSE he's antagonizing you in return, he doesn't have to if he's scum here. He's still solving for his shot for tonight. It's patently obvious to me.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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but Datisi has mild pop ins that offer nothing constructive, Mena is nowhere to be seen, Bella keeps catching up with "mood" and "same" posts
JJH is doing nothign, he's on page 40 wiht... no insights.
Ythan is still ghosting the game and resting on her laurels as a cop who dies tonight and needs to sell herself.
WHERE IS ANYONEYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm not the one trying to convince you. I've already got you locked in with me on step.
So the fact I'm here is solely for you. I'm town pushing past my limits to try my best to not fuck this shit up.
YOU are the one who is possibly telling your scum buddies to get back and let you handle this. OR you're town and one of us is wrong and they're waiting to see if we make a wrong choice before opposing us. general set ups. Bella setting up on the Ythan town train, Datisi setting up on the JJH town train.
they're polarized. And one of those slots is town, probably!Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I mean it hardly exists because like Ythan is getting away with being a non-participant. Hard to find those associations when you hardly have to bring up the slot.In post 4189, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: show me the interactions between those slots that indicate that, cause Ythan/Mith I'm just not seeing it
The biggest red flag to me is this
This reads like mith trying to derail Ythan and focus the votes onto Imaginality.In post 2892, mith wrote: Datisi - "i still want to absolutely kill imaginality, but this kind of play from ythan is fucking unacceptable" (No. We lim the obvious scum, and we sort out Ythan tomorrow. I agree her play is unacceptable, and if she's town doing this and continues to do it expect an epic rant from me after the game. But we need to lim scum today.)
Agrees w/ the general sentiment that Ythan's play is unacceptable but we HAVE to lim this other scummy person instead. This is like, distancing 101 to me, I love putting my wolf partners in my fos pool but not ever voting them and voting town instead! How does this not read to you as that.-
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it reads town to me. it reads like someone who picked up on Ythan's role almost always being cop.In post 4195, Alisae wrote:
I mean it hardly exists because like Ythan is getting away with being a non-participant. Hard to find those associations when you hardly have to bring up the slot.In post 4189, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: show me the interactions between those slots that indicate that, cause Ythan/Mith I'm just not seeing it
The biggest red flag to me is this
This reads like mith trying to derail Ythan and focus the votes onto Imaginality.In post 2892, mith wrote: Datisi - "i still want to absolutely kill imaginality, but this kind of play from ythan is fucking unacceptable" (No. We lim the obvious scum, and we sort out Ythan tomorrow. I agree her play is unacceptable, and if she's town doing this and continues to do it expect an epic rant from me after the game. But we need to lim scum today.)
Agrees w/ the general sentiment that Ythan's play is unacceptable but we HAVE to lim this other scummy person instead. This is like, distancing 101 to me, I love putting my wolf partners in my fos pool but not ever voting them and voting town instead! How does this not read to you as that.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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like fucking hell Ali, I knew Ythan was a cop YESTERDAY.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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PEOPLE ARE ON VLA!!!In post 4191, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
yes and then Mith is going to shoot you in the face tonight for antagonizing him because you didn't onboard with us and tried to swing it the other direction and if you're town that really IS game over.In post 4190, Alisae wrote:
can you make an attempt to do so before telling me "ya we're doing jjh"In post 4188, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: i'd be happily doing that if i wasn't literally having to run off to do another medical proceedure or self care thing every hour or so while trying to mix free time activities into it
i'm not at 100
if you don't make an attempt to do so and just tell me to vote jjh I am going to post yellow and then get paranoid about it being you ythan and mith
I've been giving you my ear on EVERYTHING. I don't have to do this.
do you notice we're te ONLY PEOPLE TALKING besides Mith? Why is mith out here arguing with you? It's like the town went fucking dead on purpose, prod dodging because one of two things is true
1) you're scum and trying to sway me
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2) you're town and ONE OF US IS WRONG and if they can let us come to the wrong conclusion on our own they don't need to do SHIT about it.
JJH IS BEHIND, HASN'T READ
MENA HAS SPURTS OF ACTIVITY AND THIS IS IN LINE WITH THAT
Datisi's presence fell off a cliff, sure
Ythan has been doing what they have been doing since Days 1 and 2.
Bella shows up sometimes.
lmao there's literally nothing happening besides us talking when we get chances to talk. I'm just trying to make use of the time.
You are technically correct, you don't have to do this, but aren't you the person who said that you didn't know? Aren't you the person who said to leave it to the future people? Ok, so if you didn't know, wouldn't you want to be asked the questions to figure it out?-
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I HAVE NO IDEA >_<In post 4193, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: but Datisi has mild pop ins that offer nothing constructive, Mena is nowhere to be seen, Bella keeps catching up with "mood" and "same" posts
JJH is doing nothign, he's on page 40 wiht... no insights.
Ythan is still ghosting the game and resting on her laurels as a cop who dies tonight and needs to sell herself.
WHERE IS ANYONE
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