TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

[Bellaphant]

@mod, vla, Izzy's been sent to hospital

[mith]

@mod, vla, Izzy's been sent to hospital

<3

I think that fairly evidently if jjh flips green mith should be shooting ythan? unless I'm missing something drastic?

What does Jingle think about this?

[Ythan]

@mod, vla, Izzy's been sent to hospital

<3

[Alisae]

Like they read Staeg as having a gun

why

what did staeg do that made him look like a vig at any point

I can look back but nothing comes to mind, there's no interactions where I think he was like "well, I'll leave this for now I guess" with a person he hard scumread

he kind of interacted with ythan that way?
They would have that read if they think the 1-shot gun gets drafted by picks 2 and 3.
It’s not like that would be a terrible read because in draft the 1-shot gun should always go before the n3 gun

I'm prioritising trying to catch up one recent developments but I'll try to look at this bit this afternoon as well to see if it holds up

I feel like you're basing a v large % of solving on D1 staeg stuff and I'm not sure I get why that's receiving greater weight that whatever has happened on later days?

I think we're probably in one of two worlds:

either it's mith/Bella/jjh

or it's mith/lld/ythan

I feel like I’ve explained why team 1 doesn’t work?

yes, I now think I was probably wrong on both of these lol

Why is staeg shot if wolves could have just voted him off

[Alisae]

@mod, vla, Izzy's been sent to hospital

<3

[Ythan]

We're under 48 hours.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@mod, vla, Izzy's been sent to hospital

With this little time left you need to vote, even if nothing else.

[mith]

@mod any chance of a deadline extension given the Andante replacement and multiple V/LAs for others?

[implosion]

Certainly! Continuing the incorrect pattern of replacing each number with a random number, here's a continuation for 100 elements:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 3, 9, 2, 12, 8, 17, 6, 22, 11, 4, 13, 16, 21, 23, 18, 14, 25, 28, 19, 30, 26, 20, 31, 27, 29, 32, 15, 24, 34, 35, 33, 36, 39, 37, 38, 41, 42, 40, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 50, 53, 52, 54, 56, 55, 58, 57, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 75, 74, 77, 76, 79, 78, 80, 82, 81, 83, 85, 84, 87, 86, 88, 90, 89, 92, 91, 93, 95, 94, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100.

Please note that this continuation is completely random and does not follow any logical pattern or rule.

Vote Count 3.5

jjh927 (3): Lady Lambdadelta, mith, Ythan
mith (1): Alisae
Ythan (1): jjh927

Not Voting (3): Bellaphant, Datisi, Menalque

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is May 19 at 12:30 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-05-19 15:30:00).

@mod any chance of a deadline extension given the Andante replacement and multiple V/LAs for others?

Given the length of the day and when the replacement happened, deadline will remain as it is.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Certainly! Continuing the incorrect pattern of replacing each number with a random number, here's a continuation for 100 elements:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 3, 9, 2, 12, 8, 17, 6, 22, 11, 4, 13, 16, 21, 23, 18, 14, 25, 28, 19, 30, 26, 20, 31, 27, 29, 32, 15, 24, 34, 35, 33, 36, 39, 37, 38, 41, 42, 40, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 50, 53, 52, 54, 56, 55, 58, 57, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 75, 74, 77, 76, 79, 78, 80, 82, 81, 83, 85, 84, 87, 86, 88, 90, 89, 92, 91, 93, 95, 94, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100.

Please note that this continuation is completely random and does not follow any logical pattern or rule.

Vote Count 3.5

jjh927 (3): Lady Lambdadelta, mith, Ythan
mith (1): Alisae
Ythan (1): jjh927

Not Voting (3): Bellaphant, Datisi, Menalque

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is May 19 at 12:30 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-05-19 15:30:00).

@mod any chance of a deadline extension given the Andante replacement and multiple V/LAs for others?

Given the length of the day and when the replacement happened, deadline will remain as it is.

Do you really allow players to V/LA through deadline?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

To the players who think it is never JJH and always Ythan, if any of you are town.

We have 5 votes lined up and agreed to be on JJH. That means if it would come to a deadline and one of these players would choose not to vote over voting JJH (bella, Mena) it would not make JJH town.

Cause if JJH town they would gladly just eliminate JJH and have mith shoot like, me or someone.

It's always better to just eliminate the townie.

So if it comes to it and you are town and there are people who agreed to kill JJH who are not voting.

You should probably vote JJH to prevent them from just allowing the game to no elim.

[Bellaphant]

Thanks all, it's probably just a weird UTI? At home, waiting on the results of a urine sample.

I'll put a vote down in the morning: two outstanding questions for me though - why wouldn't scum be more eager to vote jjh here, if jjh scum, for town cred?

Secondly, does the fact that jjh is being pushed so hard by lld feel like a red flag? It's easy to see it as a push from someone who knows it's a game winning move. Tin hat maybe.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thanks all, it's probably just a weird UTI? At home, waiting on the results of a urine sample.

I'll put a vote down in the morning: two outstanding questions for me though - why wouldn't scum be more eager to vote jjh here, if jjh scum, for town cred?

Secondly, does the fact that jjh is being pushed so hard by lld feel like a red flag? It's easy to see it as a push from someone who knows it's a game winning move. Tin hat maybe.

I'm pushing hard because we have 2 days remaining and a real concern of scum deciding to "oops miss deadline" for a win

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I need to gather allll the townies onto a wagon and pray it's right so i'm doing all i can to not lose since today is game losing if things go fucky

[Ythan]

Not voting jjh highly sus

[Alisae]

why wouldn't scum be more eager to vote jjh here, if jjh scum, for town cred?

wolves are already voting jjh.

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Secondly, does the fact that jjh is being pushed so hard by lld feel like a red flag? It's easy to see it as a push from someone who knows it's a game winning move. Tin hat maybe.

It didn't feel like throughout the day that LLD would consider anything else.
LLD said while I was talking to her at first that JJH would come in with the gusto if he was town then when he did post LLD just said it was obvscum. I actually liked jjh's posting on LLD.

LLD said wolves were coasting throughout the day phase but I don't think she made a single attempt to point out who these people were or why. If I look back on D1, I can actually see that LLD could have been considered coasting during that D1, mith could have be considered coasting, Ythan was definitely coasting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Reminder that Ali went from "it can never be LLD" to "it has to be LLD" only once e realized that I wasn't going to flip.

Ali's only interest in me was getting me to switch my vote onto Ythan

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ali's progression on me is pure scum who has realized the game is lost if this all in push fails because the team has been found.

[Alisae]

Talking to you was like talking to a brick wall

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Except you affirmed it wasn't earlier in the day when I did infact listen to and consider your argument, and we had a back and forth on several points.

All provable, all witnessed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is why I engaged with you as I did Ali, because you can't go back on it. You postured yourself on a gambit and now your gambit has trapped you. Your flip on me is eggresiously scummy, as is your vote on Mith.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like every townie should be able to see that you went from "LLD can never be scum here" to "Ah you're right you have been listening to me and I'm getting frustrated" to "it can NEVER BE THIS TEAM!1!!1!!1" to "LLD must be scum she doesn't listen to me" to "Vote Mith, not the 50/50 when I've been calling Ythan scum and JJH town".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You can't take refuge in absurdity that heavily, Ali. You just can't.

[Alisae]

you just wanted my vote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I did, assuming you were town. Your arguments didn't convince me and convinced me you were probably scum so at some point I was under the assumption that I needed your vote to save town.

As it stands, I don't think that's true anymore.