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Post Post #4575 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:07 pm

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If town tosses then such is life in a multiplayer game.
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Post Post #4576 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:29 pm

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If there's one thing that was actually touched on there;
Ali, could you talk to me about why you're voting mith here
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Post Post #4577 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:39 pm

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In post 4576, jjh927 wrote: If there's one thing that was actually touched on there;
Ali, could you talk to me about why you're voting mith here
if the game is lost i wanna vote the guy who i wanted to kill d2 but literally no one talked to me or engaged with me, probably because I sounded like an insane person
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Post Post #4578 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:40 pm

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like i give up
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Post Post #4579 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:42 pm

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I wrote so many posts, none of it really got engaged with, and people are just going to do what lld says anyway like
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Post Post #4580 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:44 pm

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I don't think the game is lost yet

In the grand scheme of things I only just started playing it
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Post Post #4581 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:45 pm

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If you wanna talk about mith for a bit though, fine

I think mith might be the third scum (after Ythan and LLD), but it might also be Menalque. Why is it mith?
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Post Post #4582 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:49 pm

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ya well apparently mith is town for ~reasons~ and I'm here like "uuuuuuuuuuuuh, no?" but nobodies cares kekw
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Post Post #4583 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:51 pm

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In post 4581, jjh927 wrote: I think mith might be the third scum (after Ythan and LLD), but it might also be Menalque. Why is it mith?
guy orchestrated the entirety of d1 and just railroaded imaginality d2. HE TOLD DATISI THAT OBVSCUM IMAGINALITY HAD TO GO BEFORE YTHAN AND HERE WE ARE
he's probably the only person in this game that orchestrates this. He's probably the only person who wouldn't want to push through Staeg. Like, why did that elimination not go through if they wanted to shoot him. It makes no sense.

It's not Mena man, Mena just votes Staeg because he just doesn't give a fuck!!!!!
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Post Post #4584 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:51 pm

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We're in melo with a claimed guilty and you're talking about mith are you scum or throwing
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Post Post #4585 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:52 pm

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Mena throughout the game has been very "ya I am just going to do as I please" throughout the game he is not mafia.
It seemed like he was uninterested in what anyone else was thinking during the game.
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Post Post #4586 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 9:59 pm

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I did have mith down as having been a driver of the day 1 lim on Rad as well, actually

If I have time this evening I'll reread day 2
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Post Post #4587 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:00 pm

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Mena does very much have the whole "reads that differ from everyone else" towntell going for him
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Post Post #4588 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:02 pm

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ythan and mith are always wolves together
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Post Post #4589 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:03 pm

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In post 4584, Ythan wrote: We're in melo with a claimed guilty and you're talking about mith are you scum or throwing
I've been trying to ignore your shit for the last couple of pages but honestly

Are you seriously telling Ali to ignore the 2 scum that exist outside of our 1V1
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Post Post #4590 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:04 pm

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In post 4588, Alisae wrote: ythan and mith are always wolves together
Do you have any associative stuff to point out other than 4584
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Post Post #4591 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:08 pm

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every jjh wolf team I can think of wants to vote out staeg. why are they just sending out gimli but not hammering staeg?
That doesn't make sense.
Staeg was suspecting Ythan so they shot Staeg and said "COP HUNTING KILL"
that makes sense. Except when you consider the fact that shooting 2nd pick over just shooting first pick doesn't make much sense at all.

Why is Datisi/Mena hooding Ythan? This doesn't make much sense.
You could argue that they wanted to confirm ascetic status, but why would wolves do this over just shooting Ythan? I had Datisi as wolf w/ Ythan + mith but now I think it's LLD and honestly it can still be either of those two players.
Ythan and mith are always the wolves here.

I mean I've posted this like about all throughout today but it doesn't get read it doesn't get cared about idunno what to do lol
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Post Post #4592 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:09 pm

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In post 4009, Alisae wrote:
In post 530, mith wrote:I particularly don't care for the start of the argument with Ythan.
In post 1710, mith wrote:
Ythan
- Sort of the opposite of LLD; the initial stuff read as town, but feels like she's coasting on that (and draft position) since? To the point that I almost forgot to include her. Wouldn't vote for her today, but if this feeling persists she's going to shoot up the list.

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- Reads like he's trying to solve the game, vote progression has seemed reasonable.
In post 2892, mith wrote: Datisi - "i still want to absolutely kill imaginality, but this kind of play from ythan is fucking unacceptable" (No. We lim the obvious scum, and we sort out Ythan tomorrow. I agree her play is unacceptable, and if she's town doing this and continues to do it expect an epic rant from me after the game. But we need to lim scum today.)

Alisae - shifting discussion to lurkers, ignoring the D2 imaginality discussion (Is she town deathtunneling on her bad mith take and therefore isn't going to listen to me? Maybe. It's hard to see her as scum with imaginality just on the numbers clashing, but if not for that she's the most blatant deflector for imaginality.)
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Post Post #4593 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:13 pm

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Like LLD just being me lol no mith reads like he knew Ythan was cop is like????????????? uh ok?????????????
Staeg was also informed of Ythan being cop/bp and they got shot like?????????????????????
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Post Post #4594 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:15 pm

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mith d1 was the guy who had both staeg imaginality and rad all in fos pool but he only voted imaginality and rad
this guy has to be the wolf that orchestrated the gamestate.
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Post Post #4595 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:18 pm

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Well, that gives me a lot to think about

I'm gonna get back to work but I think I'm convinced
which unfortunately means there is probably no point in me being convinced of anything or having opinions because scum!mith means we lose after my mislim and my opinions are unlikely to have an effect on the game
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Post Post #4596 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2023 12:14 am

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Is there any merit to voting datisi
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Post Post #4597 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2023 12:16 am

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In post 4596, Bellaphant wrote: Is there any merit to voting datisi
No.

Did you ever answer this?
In post 4429, jjh927 wrote: Speaking of gamestate shifts could you talk to me about your read on Datisi
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Post Post #4598 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2023 12:16 am

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In post 4596, Bellaphant wrote: Is there any merit to voting datisi
I would want to say that if we're voting outside the guilty, mith would have better odds
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Post Post #4599 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2023 12:19 am

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Ok but I'm like 50/50 on mith?

@jjh, my read on datisi has been everywhere - they hard defended lld day one but approached other slots differently, start of day two I still scum read them, towards the end I thought they were making decent points and today they've basically been unreadable. I think teams wise it works more of the time than doesn't tho?

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