BooneyToonz XVI: Boons Ahoy! - [END]

[Here There Be Dragons]

i should just stop posting i'm being an embarrassing mess

sorry

[Here There Be Dragons]

Frogs is just town, that's non-negotiable

You can try convincing me to care about reconsidering on Drew

it's hard to want to engage with this even if i was fully present and invested.

[Klick]

If you're not enjoying posting don't feel obligated
Do something more fun and come back another time

[Here There Be Dragons]

im gonna afk until my vla is over, this is pointless

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Ranger

yeah idk about Here There Be Dragons being scum anymore

[TemporalLich]

that vote is E-2 btw

[Enchant]

It's good you warned at E-2 or Klick would hammer.

[Ranger]

If there's scum on both wagons and if Frogs is town, this would mean scum went from one mislim wagon, to a different mislim wagon, to a

third

mislim wagon on Students. (Not accounting for there also being a WhemeStar wagon.)
Largely as a group.

Scum generally don't act in that manner. They

can

, if they want to strongly be unified, end the day early, or if they want to save scum. Usually, the answer is something else.

Can you back up that assertion

Yeah. Read any game on mafiascum. Did the scum move from one mislim, to another mislim, to a third mislim, largely as a group?

It'll take you a while to find one which they do. (It's uncommon.)
When you do, it'll likely be...they wanted to be strongly unified, end the day early, or save scum.

It'll take you much longer to find a game where they performed the first without the second. (It's uncommon among the uncommon, and thus very rare.)

What kind of silly logic is this?

The correct kind?

Do scum, largely as a group, largely move from one wagon, to another wagon, to another wagon, with all the wagons they move on being town, without a coordinate effort to deliberately vote together, without scum endangered, without a desire to end a day phase early?

The answer to that is demonstrably 'no'. They don't. At least not on mafiascum.

[Ranger]

Alisae is playing in their town meta here and is not scum. Finito.

Well given I'm town and everyone saying Alisae is town is saying that means I'm scum, consider me skeptical of the slot I believe has mechanical reasons to be scum, interaction-based reasons to be scum, and play-based reasons to be scum.

[Ranger]

Ranger is not playing in a way that is making me more confident about their alignment not being scum.

Yeah, my goal's to eliminate scum, not look town.

[Firebringer]

welp they got us ranger, pack it up. i hope firebringer can take this one home

i got you fam

[Ranger]

You don't really want to directly confront me so you do this half-shade, don't explain your thoughts, and silly ass "logic" to try to turn the gamestate in your favour.
I really didn't like how you were all like "Ah yes, my mindset is so amazingly unique it simply cannot be explained. My reads are just on another level!"

I don't know who this is directed towards; it certainly isn't me.

[Ranger]

Lol so after all that you only have me as a NULLREAD.

Technically, ambivalent.

Null places you in the PoE. I don't have a read on you. Your play could be scum, it could be town. You have interactions which support being scum, you have evidence suggesting you're town. You look suspect by vote history, yet aren't acting as I expect scum actually did by the history.

[Ranger]

This isn't arguing with a scumread. This is arguing to a townread

I don't know how you reached the conclusion interacting with a scumread meant I was talking to them assuming they were town.

I saw a post I thought beneficial to engage. Whatever you saw, I sure didn't. Frogs argued I was informed about the gamestate. I figured I could use the flawed argument to explain a point I wanted to raise.

[Ranger]

and scum also tried to kill Norwee

I don't believe that.

I'll believe WhemeStar targeted Norwee. It's baffling because there's zero chance scum actually would've killed Norwee since Norwee was fairly universally null yesterday so it's not an action which would've succeeded. I'm not WhemeStar though so I can buy him having made that protection.

There's no chance Norwee was killed by the scum.

To me, that's confirmation WhemeStar was directly killed, and by virtue, Kitty Trauma Team killed Theta Alpine.

[Ranger]

would scum!ranger really be trying to obfuscate scum kill by going "ohh its obvious it was TL" when it was really Norwee. Probably?

My stance has consistently been WhemeStar didn't save someone from a kill, and was directly killed.

When I said it was TemporalLich, it was my guess at who WhemeStar targeted off of WhemeStar's iso. TemporalLich was mentioned more consistently as town within, and Norwee was only mentioned once as town in a list of three. My belief WhemeStar was directly killed was in part due to my belief TemporalLich wouldn't have been nightkilled. It remains for Norwee.

[Ranger]

Norwee kill makes a lot of sense

It doesn't.

Norwee wasn't widely townread by the vibes yesterday.
WhemeStar was.

WhemeStar being confirmed to target Norwee is confirmation WhemeStar was directly killed, and confirmation Theta Alpine was vigged by Kitty Trauma Team.

[Ranger]

I still do not understand why Ranger is being scumread

Klick's being pocketed by scum, scum are threatened by me, that simple.

scummy post actually

Well it's true.

I wasn't under any pressure until I picked up my push on Frogs.

The players pivoted from pushing Emperor Flippynips and Here There Be Dragons to instead push me.

Nothing in Emperor Flippynips changed;
Nothing in Here There Be Dragons changed;
The only change was my increase in pushing Frogs, by pointing out why I'm scumreading them across every metric.

Ergo, scum were threatened by me, Klick is pocketed by that scum, and the basis of the scumreads on me is scum being threatened by me.

also you thinking I was the nightkill target is quite strange

I don't.

I thought WhemeStar protected you, while scum directly killed WhemeStar.

I would call both you and Norwee poor protections, personally. Neither you or Norwee were good kill targets last night. Reading WhemeStar's iso led me to believe it was you. We now have confirmation it was Norwee.

Regardless, though, the kill remains as certainly directly on WhemeStar.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like you’re rewriting history now.
Whemestar wasn’t really "universally townread", i’d say it was more like people thought it could be town but they weren’t sure however the slot was largely ignored.

[Ranger]

ya i agree how about we give the birthday boy a wolf flip for his birthday

Well if you want a mafia flip you're going to need to vote scum, which you currently aren't, so...

[Ranger]

Whemestar wasn’t really "universally townread", i’d say it was more like people thought it could be town but they weren’t sure however the slot was largely ignored.

WhemeStar was widely townread at day's end.

People did wagon WhemeStar earlier.

The wagon fell apart with nobody pushing WhemeStar after.

Those were the thread vibes.

[Ranger]

id like to request we stop clearing klick after i flip town

Klick's not clear if Frogs is town; on this I agree.

With Frogs as scum, Klick is always town though; Frogs' N1 action on Klick is never targeting a scumbuddy.

[Ranger]

If you got good arguments i’m willing to listen to them.

1842, 1848.

[Ranger]

I kinda prefer Ranger. I think Dragons is making real bad posts right now, but not the type that would convince anyone so dunno if it’s scummy.

Ranger is not playing in a way that is making me more confident about their alignment not being scum.

One of these is not like the others.

[Ranger]

Neither of you were in hot water until relatively recently

I wonder what would've gotten me in the spotlight?

Perhaps...

I still do not understand why Ranger is being scumread

Klick's being pocketed by scum, scum are threatened by me, that simple.

This could have something to do with it?