Open 878: Scarfolk Council | The End

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.6

Despite the letter spacing typo on the poster, Scarfolk’s 1972 tourism campaign was as successful as the mayor had hoped. Seven tourists visited that summer. Oddly, they were all called Timothy, wore identical clothes and appeared to communicate with each other telepathically. Everyone in Scarfolk called them ‘The Tim Seven’.

Three days after they arrived in Scarfolk all the birds disappeared and for months after the Tims left whenever Scarfolk residents tried to use their telephones all they could hear on the other end was distant, frantic backward birdsong.

‘The Tim Seven’ also claimed they could psychically channel a long-dead Scarfolk resident - a fifteenth century plague doctor called Ranlyn Spangles - but they could only pick up his thoughts that referred to wigs or soup spoons.

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Doctor Drew (4):

Cephrir, sheepsaysmeep, implosion, GuerillaWoo

Andante (3):

Menalque, Invisibility, Aisa

GuerillaWoo (2):

Cat Scratch Fever, Doctor Drew

Alianna (1):

Dunnstral

Cat Scratch Fever (1):

skitter30

Not voting (2):

Andante, Alianna

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-06-03 21:40:00)

Notes:

• Cephrir is on V/LA through Monday 5/29.

[Umlaut]

Seeking a replacement for Doctor Drew.

[sheepsaysmeep]

blah

[Umlaut]

Enchant replaces Doctor Drew.

[Invisibility]

oh that was fast. Hi Enchant

[Enchant]

Some people can't bear votes on them.

I enjoy them.

[Enchant]

Anyway pretend i said something town and unvote or you regret it

[sheepsaysmeep]

Aisa's approach the last few days is nagging me

The way she has tested different votes (me, skitter, andante) just looks a little openwolfy to me

a) I think it highlights how she's struggling to form legit scumreads, which is just a little more likely wolf than villager

b)I think a more villagery approach would be like alianna's readlist, where she i) admitted explicitly to having a lack of wolfreads and b) concluded "there's likely a decent amount of wolves in the inactives," which is a valid conclusion imo. rather than like, aisa forcing herself to turn on different actives, such as her former townreads

[Aisa]

am I ignoring this logic too?

Is this directed at me? If so I'm not sure what you mean

[sheepsaysmeep]

like in particular the momentary vote on me is still on my mind

theres like the "I'm just trying this to test what happens" aspect
which is just kinda wolfy to me outside of rvs

"I don't necessarily outright wolfread you, but I feel like what you've done is fakeable, so I want to challenge the townreads on u"
this just feels.. more inherently wolf-motivated to me. like even if there have been townreads that I disagree with, im not inclined to try to challenge them at this point. but theres so much direct scum reason to do so. the notion of "fakeable" feels like inauthentic justification when I would assert literally everyone has technically done easily fakeable stuff this game

[Aisa]

Hi sheep
(I'm a bit tired so I'm just gonna like respond to random stuff and I will systematically address anything I miss today tomorrow)
I think it's like in general as a player I enjoy fooling around for a bit. Sometimes I don't vote my top scumread right away but I like poking and prodding and reactions testing a bit. Or I vote someone who I think is, like, an "underrated" wagon but not necessarily scummiest in absolute terms. When I type it out like this I realise it's a bit daft and maybe I don't need to play these silly games and can cut straight to the chase, but, yeah, just been a habit for a while and takes energy to shake off.

Is there anything in particular you wanna chat about while I'm here?

[sheepsaysmeep]

hi Im tired too lmaoo

ur post implies the existence of stronger scumreads than the people youre voting for. do u have any actual outright scumreads this game? my understanding was u were doing this because of a lack of actual scumreads and u were actually trying to hit scum

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think it's like in general as a player I enjoy fooling around for a bit. Sometimes I don't vote my top scumread right away but I like poking and prodding and reactions testing a bit. Or I vote someone who I think is, like, an "underrated" wagon but not necessarily scummiest in absolute terms.

like this is something very normal to me that I'd probably do

it's more, something about how u havent rly presented anything directly as wolfy. more wishy-washy. which feels wolfy

[Invisibility]

am I ignoring this logic too?

Is this directed at me? If so I'm not sure what you mean

like am I guilty of ignoring the logic behind Andante's posts that Skitter is also guilty of

[sheepsaysmeep]

I'm also noticing a slight tone difference from when I was scum with her, but I can't really put it into words yet. I know that's not exactly helpful, just going to note it anyway.

I am curious if u can link this game pls. tho I prob wont read super in depth

[Aisa]

Oh, right
@sheep
Bit of column A (no strong scumreads) bit of column B (I might have a stronger scumread but I don't mind investigating a less strong scumread / nullread first). Like, if I had to instantly dayvig someone yesterday I might have chosen skitter instead of you, but I'm also nowhere near confident enough about either scumread that the order in which I investigate them particularly matters to me, and I care more about the process of talking to people than pushing a specific strong scumread at the moment. Does that make sense?

Anyway, scumreads at the moment:
- I think I scumread Andante but that was like quite a spur of the moment thing and I if I sit down and reflect on it the read could change
- I also kinda secretly scumread CSF, maybe less strongly than Andante (but who knows, it's all kind of a tangle at the moment, maybe my reads are changing too often for a ranking to be meaningful). Because she's not very active and my understanding is she just has an activity tell as scum.

Sorry you're tired too I hope it's the kind that'll go away with some rest

[Aisa]

I'm also noticing a slight tone difference from when I was scum with her, but I can't really put it into words yet. I know that's not exactly helpful, just going to note it anyway.

I am curious if u can link this game pls. tho I prob wont read super in depth

viewtopic.php?t=90462

I think it's like in general as a player I enjoy fooling around for a bit. Sometimes I don't vote my top scumread right away but I like poking and prodding and reactions testing a bit. Or I vote someone who I think is, like, an "underrated" wagon but not necessarily scummiest in absolute terms.

like this is something very normal to me that I'd probably do

it's more, something about how u havent rly presented anything directly as wolfy. more wishy-washy. which feels wolfy

[Alianna]

I'm also noticing a slight tone difference from when I was scum with her, but I can't really put it into words yet. I know that's not exactly helpful, just going to note it anyway.

I am curious if u can link this game pls. tho I prob wont read super in depth

viewtopic.php?t=90462
We were both part of the Dei Ex Machina hydra. I was Nyx, she was Morta, and our third partner was Janus.

[Aisa]

Uh, I don't know how I accidentally submitted. Let's try this again. Looks like Alianna has linked the game so I don't need to worry about that.

I think it's like in general as a player I enjoy fooling around for a bit. Sometimes I don't vote my top scumread right away but I like poking and prodding and reactions testing a bit. Or I vote someone who I think is, like, an "underrated" wagon but not necessarily scummiest in absolute terms.

like this is something very normal to me that I'd probably do

it's more, something about how u havent rly presented anything directly as wolfy. more wishy-washy. which feels wolfy

Ok. I think this is something I am well established to do if you talk to anyone who's played with me before. I think ideally I aspire to be such that if I have a really confident scumread, then that person flips scum most of the time. Because if my confident scumreads don't flip scum, then I was just overconfident?

But I don't know of any strategy that reliably catches scum except meta for certain players and maaaybe just thinking a bunch for several consecutive game days, so I'm just really waffly all the time lol.

[sheepsaysmeep]

this is hard

[sheepsaysmeep]

would u say u scumread skitter

[Aisa]

So basically earlier when I saw Andante's play in Terminator my brain decided her play in Terminator was not at all alike to her play here.

It was a mystical experience. In the space of like 5 minutes my brain decided to rewire the reads 180 degrees and went from "skitter is scum for the way she is pushing obvtown Andante" to "skitter is town who saw the light before any of us did". It also turns out that when Andante OMGUSes you it suddenly becomes a lot easier to empathise with the other player she is OMGUSing

So like no I don't scumread skitter right now

[Invisibility]

you thought Andante was obvtown? I still don't really understand why you TR'd Andante

[sheepsaysmeep]

hmmmm ok thank u

I think Andante OMGUS is another andante town or at least NAI feature that we've been talking about this whole time ftr lol. it's been present in every game I played with her

[Aisa]

am I ignoring this logic too?

Is this directed at me? If so I'm not sure what you mean

like am I guilty of ignoring the logic behind Andante's posts that Skitter is also guilty of

I just looked at this
Yeah, I think me 10 hours ago would have said you were guilty of this too. I think when I read your earlier posts on Andante I probably softly dismissed them in my head at the time.

Sorry this discussion has become so messy, I think that I have undergone, uh, a lot of read progression in the last 48 hours. If I'd known this was gonna happen I would have, like, just shut up for a bit until my reads settled. But too late for that now, and we're all stuck together trying to understand the mess in my head