I think people tend to townread people who push the game out of RVS and being active in the early game, and that doesn't make them scum. I have some difficulty thinking Dunn genuinely believes that
The "your nullreads are actually scumreads" point felt like splitting hairs
also a thought that crossed my mind earlier was did Dunnstral really see Alianna's readslist, open up activity overview, and cross check it? I feel like this is a kind of read that is more likely to come from someone who had already read the entire game and had a sense of who was active and who was not, but he claimed he didn't do that
he was also one of the people who threw out a fast townread on Woo, and while I realize not all of those people are going to be scum, he's also not towny out of that group
(2) what do you like about Alianna?
I went to quote some posts out of her ISO that I liked for you, but uh, on the whole she feels more reactive than I remembered. Here are some posts I remember liking though-
In post 209, Alianna wrote:
Current reads: Andante is towny because reasons, Aisa and Invisibility are towny because vibes, Doc and CSF are ever so slightly north of null (Doc because I kind of want to trust Aisa's meta read and CSF because 151 is a good post), and
skitter might be sus but I need to re-read her ISO.
Meh, skitter can go back in the nullbin.
One question though Alianna, shouldn't you have a meta read on me by now and not have to trust another player?
If you think I should have a meta read on you, do you have a meta read on me?
I liked how she responded to Drew's question in 227, and then she actually flipped the question back to her interrogator!
In post 259, Alianna wrote:
I don’t agree with the idea that Andante is obvious town or that Invis is tunnelling her, but I don’t necessarily think Andante making those assertions is scum-indicative.
I think this is a good post. I think instead of honing in on some things in her ISO that maybe don't feel consistent, she takes a more holistic approach. It was very similar to how I felt at that point in the game
In post 254, GuerillaWoo wrote:
The wagon on Andante's pretty good, but Drew has said he wants to catch up so I don't know why he's being wagoned either.
Came in with some brazen stuff and immediately self-declared obv town. The assumption ig is that scum wouldn't engage in any bravado or start questioning TRs on themselves? But that assumption is worth more when it's not Andante just saying "So what I did just now makes me locktown". It comes off as awareness of reads on yourself, and like, feigning confidence in RVS is just super easy to do. She did this after saying Implo is tryharding early.
It's a solid place for a wagon.
I need to reread the thread and try to figure out if I have any town reads based on anything said that early. I think Invis and skitter saw the logic in
not
seeing the logic in Andante's posts, but I'm not sure if there were any more, and I don't have a better yardstick for townie behavior thus far.
If you think Andante is a good wagon, why did you never vote her?
Good post
In post 305, Alianna wrote:
Not interested in Andante wagon because I think she's town. The votes there are all meh for different reasons.
Drew wagon is somehow even more meh.
Cephrir and Invis are voting there because...why?
Woo wagon feels slightly better, at least on CSF's side. 250 raises some good points. Doc's 285 feels a little tinfoily though lol.
Not much explanation for this one idk, I just liked it
(3) have you played much with enchant?
yeah I've played several games with him now. If you're trying to gauge whether or not I am good at reading him, I have unfortunately come to realize that I am not. I like playing with him tho, Enchant is a vibe
I'm feeling a little better. It seems I've got a lot of reading to do, probably won't be able to get to that tonight though. I'll do my best to get myself caught up tomorrow and answer any questions anyone has for me.
I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 26
On hiatus from playing mafia.
I went to quote some posts out of her ISO that I liked for you, but uh, on the whole she feels more reactive than I remembered.
I will address this, though, since it's right there and doesn't require any reading for context. The game you're referencing represents one end of my townrange; it's by far the most effort I've ever put into D1. It's not a good example of how I usually play. Meta-read it at your own risk.
I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 26
On hiatus from playing mafia.
In post 850, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
also a thought that crossed my mind earlier was did Dunnstral really see Alianna's readslist, open up activity overview, and cross check it?
Well I posted an image of me doing that so I'd say yes I did do that. I'm not sure what you are arguing here.
In post 753, Andante wrote:
- I think this post would’ve been fine… if it was Dunn’s first post, but after “catching up” and commenting on activity levels, feels weird, not sure if this makes dunn scum, but like with this and above, I’m not really seeing how dunn would be town and make these posts
I didn't call lurkers scum or anything, did I? Not sure what your point is either.
In post 753, Andante wrote:
- I think this post would’ve been fine… if it was Dunn’s first post, but after “catching up” and commenting on activity levels, feels weird, not sure if this makes dunn scum, but like with this and above, I’m not really seeing how dunn would be town and make these posts
I didn't call lurkers scum or anything, did I? Not sure what your point is either.
Enchant, why are you voting for me?
Because i am not voting Andante and pretty sceptical about selfvoting.
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In post 855, Alianna wrote:
Yep, that one.
I think I'm using the word "meta" a little more loosely than you're using it there.
It was just a thought that came to my head.
Never mind, I understand what you mean now.
I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 26
On hiatus from playing mafia.
In post 850, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
also a thought that crossed my mind earlier was did Dunnstral really see Alianna's readslist, open up activity overview, and cross check it?
Well I posted an image of me doing that so I'd say yes I did do that. I'm not sure what you are arguing here.
Yes you did but not without reading the game first. Or is checking activity overview something you randomly just do?
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,
In post 863, Invisibility wrote:
I think CSF is town. She's been sort of forging her own path but not in a like, stand outside the rest of town and nobody sees me way
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