Micro 1082 - I’m the Real Tracker (Day 4)
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Last edited by GuyInFreezer on Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:49 am, edited 1 time in total.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
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The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
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Howdy, will catch up in the next hour or two.
UNVOTE:'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I would like you to elaborate on this actuallyIn post 273, Donempire wrote: I would also say that political clout is a townlean for now. I might elaborate if needed.Invisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Still catching up, but these two posts stuck out to me for very different reasons.
On a lighthearted note, this just made me laugh. I miss playing with you Bingle.In post 77, Bingle wrote: Merlyn is probably town for the meta read. Also the meta read is shit.
I would say that site wide people have too much preoccupation with the what over the why, but I wholeheartedly agree with what you said here.In post 94, Bingle wrote: I think overall this game has a strange preoccupation with the what over the why, when generally I think scumhunting should emphasize the exact opposite.
Ok, back to the grind, hopefully my next post will be less fluff lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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This is the only read I don't get. PC's reads don't really mesh with mine and I also don't really like how he jumped on your wagonIn post 273, Donempire wrote: I would also say that political clout is a townlean for now. I might elaborate if needed.-
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Then why bring it up?In post 98, Invisibility wrote: I have nothing to say about mechanical stuff cuz I am bad at mechanical stuff
This post by Black jumps out at me, like in my soul it feels like role phishing.....but I don't know how it can be at the same time. I kind of wanted to highlight so a different set of eyes tells me I am onto something.....or just to call me a giant idiot. I will accept either lol.In post 169, Invisibility wrote:
they don'tIn post 165, Black wrote: Pretenders know they are pretenders, right?
This is a stretch.....and didn't you just go right back into mech stuff as well?In post 180, Donempire wrote:
This is a town-leaning post. Scum would have liked the discussion devolving into mech-talk.In post 98, Invisibility wrote: I have nothing to say about mechanical stuff cuz I am bad at mechanical stuff
I agree with this, kind of feels like they are trying to stoke the fire of Jason(now me) v Bingle.In post 235, Black wrote:
I don't like this. Why is Bingle scummy for focusing on the setup but Jason is town?In post 224, Political Clout wrote: I like jason for town and delta slight town
I think you bingle are focusing a lot a lot on the setup slightly scummy
After a skim through, I feel good with a vote on Done or PC.
But given that Jason was on Done, and I trust them as a solid player, I will go back there.
Also I do love repping into Jason's spot, gives me some much needed real time insight into their town game lol.
VOTE: Donempire
Pre Edit: Hi Black!'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I mean, I have one theory.In post 284, Black wrote:
This is the only read I don't get. PC's reads don't really mesh with mine and I also don't really like how he jumped on your wagonIn post 273, Donempire wrote: I would also say that political clout is a townlean for now. I might elaborate if needed.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Also, I tried to sub into Merlyn's slot.....but you beat me too it Black lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Nah, I'm just a dummyIn post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: This post by Black jumps out at me, like in my soul it feels like role phishing
Why do you scumread Don? And what do you think about Kowah?-
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Too bad! She's mine :pIn post 288, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, I tried to sub into Merlyn's slot.....but you beat me too it Black lol.-
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I could go Kowah.....but I always lean scum on them and probably am giving them some benefit of the doubt.....I don't understand a no Lim on D1 in basically any situation.In post 289, Black wrote:
Nah, I'm just a dummyIn post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: This post by Black jumps out at me, like in my soul it feels like role phishing
Why do you scumread Don? And what do you think about Kowah?
Don's 180 to me kind of sums them up, just making a read to make a read. Invis's 98 that I quoted is also basically just fluff and a post for no reason, Don really is doing some mental gymnastics to make it town. I argue it is just a fake read.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I am still letting the game envelop me as well, things may change as I soak it in*
*As I drink more'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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after this much mech talk I'm incline to believe it's alignment indicative but to me the jason mech talk he was content to leave it at his first post on mech talk and was merely answering questions about it that struck me as town bingle has actively and openly engaged in it I think it replaces a lot of content this is just my opinion but that's how I see the situation. do you think it's alignment indicative? what I also don't like is that bingle agreed with me about playing it like an all vanilla game and then continued to do it that is my highest gripe with the mech talk I think.In post 273, Donempire wrote: Scumread.
VOTE: Kowah
I act like i am waiting on kowahs explanation on how he is town here, but i'm afraid that ship sailed after his last few posts. I was waiting on their action following me pressing them on their strategy to vote them, and they did pretty much what i expected.
I would also say that political clout is a townlean for now. I might elaborate if needed.
Black i would say hasn't posted enough for me to get a definite read, but if i had to i would also put them at a townlean.
Bingle and JW have been too caught up in mechtalk for me to get a good read on them.
Appearence.................... hasn't made an appearence in a long time :cool: so i have no read on them either.
All my other reads haven't changed.Ya basic!-
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I wanted to explain why I let myself lapse into not posting lolIn post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: Then why bring it up?Invisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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this is a pretty fair pointIn post 293, Political Clout wrote: bingle has actively and openly engaged in it I think it replaces a lot of contentInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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I feel like 80% of your posts have been about mech talk lolIn post 247, Bingle wrote: Like 80% of the thread has been mech talk, and there's really no point to it today. The tl;dr is pick your target based on your own personal thoughts to prevent scum from playing around any publicly assigned choices. We decide whether the flips suggest we should claim targets tomorrow, full claim tomorrow, or claim nothing tomorrow. If we full claim, we discuss whether those choices make sense. If we don't, we continue playing the game of mafia.Invisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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do you think the disconnect is scum because you are pretty brutal with admonishing him but don't assign a town/scum value. why not?In post 261, Black wrote:In post 249, Kowahbunga wrote:
I would hammer it right now if I could.In post 226, Political Clout wrote:
why didn't you warn kowah then that his actions were helping scum? and I feel like you are assuming a lot in kowah's intentions like he did x so y must be true it doesn't follow logically. In fact his inconsistency does give me pause let me do y but do x instead. I think that itself is worth exploring. at what point does someone go from 'spitballing' to advocating?In post 175, Donempire wrote:
I don't like meta reading someone if they are used to doing scummy things as town. The reason people including me were suspect on his no-lim gameplan was because it would be forcing town into hibernation. Playing the game simply in mechanical terms would only benefit scum here. If that is how he plays as town!kowah, then we need to warn him that this helps scum and be suspicious of him anyways as the facts of the matter dont change. And fwiw, i don't buy meta reads, so i'm plainly reading people as per their actions, not their intentions.In post 56, Merlyn wrote:
Delta, why did you answer Invis's question and not mine?
But my statement is backed up by something- Kowah doing this as town in our previous game together. You were actually there too, though you replaced out pretty early, but I think you were still around when Kowah started advocating a D1 no lim policy there too.
I don't believe spitballing ideas itself is scummy. However i don't believe kowah has done enough to convince us of his game plan, which also with him abandoning his no-lim idea as he votes bingle makes it seem as though he wasn't that committed to it in the first place and was just saying it to get some content out.
@ kowah how attached are you to no limming day 1?
There is a disconnect in your thought process here. You say you would hammer a no-lim right now but then you go on to say that you don't really want to lose information this game. Do you not consider ending the Day on page 10 a loss of information? Because I do. Cutting discussion short like this would only benefit scumIn post 259, Kowahbunga wrote:
I guess what scares me most, and is likely entirely unavoidable, is the potential of lost information this game. It's going to happen, and I just don't want it to. Reading this post makes me no longer feel a mass claim is a good idea today. I stand by a no lim.In post 252, Bingle wrote:
I mean, technically we could massclaim, determine which roles contained pretender slots lim one of those roles and have a pretty good shot at publicly outing pretenders on D2. That would also be a very stupid plan.In post 250, Kowahbunga wrote:
Isn't this literally impossible to do without their flips? Not even scum can know who is a pretender until the flip. In fact, one of the scum could even be a pretender. So this post seems very odd.In post 231, JasonWazza wrote: Also another News Flash for Bingle, outing the Pretenders early, isn't actually good for town.Ya basic!-
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Ugh, Black is gonna be that slot that keeps pinging me as scum but I keep overthinking it as well.In post 297, Political Clout wrote:
do you think the disconnect is scum because you are pretty brutal with admonishing him but don't assign a town/scum value. why not?In post 261, Black wrote:In post 249, Kowahbunga wrote:
I would hammer it right now if I could.In post 226, Political Clout wrote:
why didn't you warn kowah then that his actions were helping scum? and I feel like you are assuming a lot in kowah's intentions like he did x so y must be true it doesn't follow logically. In fact his inconsistency does give me pause let me do y but do x instead. I think that itself is worth exploring. at what point does someone go from 'spitballing' to advocating?In post 175, Donempire wrote:
I don't like meta reading someone if they are used to doing scummy things as town. The reason people including me were suspect on his no-lim gameplan was because it would be forcing town into hibernation. Playing the game simply in mechanical terms would only benefit scum here. If that is how he plays as town!kowah, then we need to warn him that this helps scum and be suspicious of him anyways as the facts of the matter dont change. And fwiw, i don't buy meta reads, so i'm plainly reading people as per their actions, not their intentions.In post 56, Merlyn wrote:
Delta, why did you answer Invis's question and not mine?
But my statement is backed up by something- Kowah doing this as town in our previous game together. You were actually there too, though you replaced out pretty early, but I think you were still around when Kowah started advocating a D1 no lim policy there too.
I don't believe spitballing ideas itself is scummy. However i don't believe kowah has done enough to convince us of his game plan, which also with him abandoning his no-lim idea as he votes bingle makes it seem as though he wasn't that committed to it in the first place and was just saying it to get some content out.
@ kowah how attached are you to no limming day 1?
There is a disconnect in your thought process here. You say you would hammer a no-lim right now but then you go on to say that you don't really want to lose information this game. Do you not consider ending the Day on page 10 a loss of information? Because I do. Cutting discussion short like this would only benefit scumIn post 259, Kowahbunga wrote:
I guess what scares me most, and is likely entirely unavoidable, is the potential of lost information this game. It's going to happen, and I just don't want it to. Reading this post makes me no longer feel a mass claim is a good idea today. I stand by a no lim.In post 252, Bingle wrote:
I mean, technically we could massclaim, determine which roles contained pretender slots lim one of those roles and have a pretty good shot at publicly outing pretenders on D2. That would also be a very stupid plan.In post 250, Kowahbunga wrote:
Isn't this literally impossible to do without their flips? Not even scum can know who is a pretender until the flip. In fact, one of the scum could even be a pretender. So this post seems very odd.In post 231, JasonWazza wrote: Also another News Flash for Bingle, outing the Pretenders early, isn't actually good for town.
This post really seems like you are trying to make a case when it isn't there Black.
And I do like PC's question here.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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No offense but are you reading my posts? I haven't liked Kowah since I replaced in. I had him at the bottom of my reads list after my catch up and I'm voting for him. I think the disconnect is probably scum, yeah, and I don't think I'm being brutal about it like you're claimingIn post 297, Political Clout wrote: do you think the disconnect is scum because you are pretty brutal with admonishing him but don't assign a town/scum value. why not?
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