In post 1049, Garlic Bread wrote:
[skygazer, hellbooks] are 2 slots that are like I Feel they are just Town but they haven't actually Done anything I can be like "Yup I'm not getting potentially snowed by this"
but I know I'm not gonna pull more content out of them
xof/tris are the most locktown, alisae as well on sheep scum flip
I mostly vibe with this in a sheep scum world. Xof I have absolute null, but I don't think I've ever had good meta on them.
Of course, in a sheep scum world, I get power mislimmed, but whatever. You all can figure it out after that.
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In post 1049, Garlic Bread wrote:
[skygazer, hellbooks] are 2 slots that are like I Feel they are just Town but they haven't actually Done anything I can be like "Yup I'm not getting potentially snowed by this"
but I know I'm not gonna pull more content out of them
xof/tris are the most locktown, alisae as well on sheep scum flip
I mostly vibe with this in a sheep scum world. Xof I have absolute null, but I don't think I've ever had good meta on them.
Of course, in a sheep scum world, I get power mislimmed, but whatever. You all can figure it out after that.
idt you're number 1 partner candidate for sheep partner for me anymore
In post 1054, VP Baltar wrote:
I think there was one game we were in where you died and andres and I pushed your dead reads. I don't remember if they were right or not
i miss andres
if that was Bunnies, I ran over a mafia d1 and had you+Innocentvillager(a mafia) as my legacy but mathblade replaced in and killed like 2 obvious towns lol
I think pushes like this on me tend to be wolf-driven lol and am not sure if that's justified or not. my experience is like, town can sort of see the light in me, like because theyre genuinely reflecting on me they can see little nuggets and other shit, and wolves tend to be like wtf is there to like about this guy; why aren't we just pummeling him? I made a mildly correct read for a moment like this in election mafia, where bingle + lld were pushing the notion "at this point we just have to assume sheep is wolf because PoE, there's no reason to think sheep's villa so we just work with sheep lockwolf obv." whereas my townreads were either like just townreading me sometimes iirc, or guiltylion here and there was always like ahh I guess sheep is wolf but I like this sheep post, I liked that sheep post, poe makes sense but there's really stuff I like. and wolves tend to straight up just not see it and I think that's potentially a valid tell
I think theres two things that bug me about this push that Ive already talked about. 1) I feel like poe is a really really really overused item in the push against me. im just so constantly reading from alisae/garlic (ig mainly garlic) "everyone else is villagery" in combination with skepticism at how tf u can find sheep is villagery. that just doesnt seem like it holds for me, that you can lock all these different people at fairly confident town for the purposes of solving (sky, xof, lower poster types etc) and then be outraged that sheep is able to be found as villager; one of the two is fake. I feel like I have like a comparable amount of meaningful content/insights as a certain half of the playerlist combined, like I rly dont think theyre super high quality insights or particularly villagery but the way garlic talks about me pretends they dont exist.
2) I feel like there's this outright refusal to truly explain the push on me. like I saw alisae saying something about deferring to garlic who's better explaining the sheep push, and im like wait a second what the fuck garlic has definitely been unwilling to talk about it in a ton of depth and retorting "why have you found sheep villagery." like I guess alisae named posts and it's fine, but it's meh. nothing matches up to the magnitude of confidence in the push (v confident) + the dynamic with garlic is weird and hard to believe as natural. might tilt koba but I often think maybe youre just not able to explain this read on me to the level you portray, like you talk about how youre reallyyy so certain and then it's just shallow / there's an avoidance to really try to sell it with to people with reasoning/casing and it just feels off
I dont know what I want to do with this because I think garlic has done some very prob just villager things that I would usually just lock someone away for in a game like this
and alisae had aspects of their wall/worldview that I like.
for example =their descriptions of the trio aligns somewhat lol with something I felt about the game ish. I have a town group and then I have a group of people I dont feel like I can >rand read d1, and they all have valid excuses why theyre so meh to me
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yeah i finally bit the bullet and went thru sheep games and sheep is perfectly capable of this stuff in their completed scumgames like this
Ok, so having gone through these games, I think you basically have a fairly broad range of play as either alignment.
If I'm making general statements, I think you can and do sometimes show more dynamics as scum, and you can be slow to start as town. So I need to account for that. That being said, I noticed mykonium did call you out for this same kind of shallow and static play as scum in that one game. There, you had camped what looked like an rvs vote on them.
One point against my theory is that you do generally appear less combative as scum, which doesn't fit with this game as much. You see much more eager to appease as scum than tangle with people pushing on you from what I saw.
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In post 471, hellbooks wrote:
ive heard through the grapevine that post 1023 is booby trapped-- whoever makes that post has to say "i love you" to three friends. watch out! oh and also eat a spoonful of mustard
