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Post #59 (isolation #6) » Sun May 21, 2023 6:12 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
I voted Kop to try to push the day forward. They had 1 post total and I preferred to push there over Asri who had more content (if only by a little). I was also trying to get Andante to take a stance (or to explain their stance, at least). I am now also trying to get The Bulge to take a stance and I'm not sure why they are being weird about this.
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Post #61 (isolation #8) » Sun May 21, 2023 6:55 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
In post 59, Dunnstral wrote:
I voted Kop to try to push the day forward. They had 1 post total and I preferred to push there over Asri who had more content (if only by a little). I was also trying to get Andante to take a stance (or to explain their stance, at least). I am now also trying to get The Bulge to take a stance and I'm not sure why they are being weird about this.
This one mostly talked about music, welcomed kop onto tunnel and asked kop 'yes?'. This one isn't saying you're saying something scummy yet, your explanation can come from town. It's just that kop was there and voting and aksing questions, it made him look scummy yes. But to say Asri made more content just because this one hade more posts is a little meh. Because kop had more posts near the end, and you did stay on when the wagon was e-1 so. And Kop was going after Asri on actual content. No one was really doing that except maybe against kop, so overall I find it weird you set kop up as being inactive where others in fact were, and how you sort of frame the kop wagon as moving the game along without using the actually decent recent for voting for kop in that he was perhaps deliberately scummy due to vannilla status.
This one might have expected a vote on the bulge, redff, even megazumaril maybe to mve the day forward but again right now let's say this is neutral and this one still has you at town.
Dunnstrall killing Andante one NK possibility. Andnate being strong another?
RedFF's hammer almost read like a challenge to Umlaut to me. Where is Umlaut? Where is red? This one will wait a bit.
Kop had one post, to me it made more sense to vote the person with less presence. I saw Kop's second post when the thread was locked along with everything after that, their first post was an rvs vote. The wagon reached e-1 and then was subsequently hammered while I was sleeping, so it's not really a choice I made but a consequence of having voted there earlier.
I voted Kop because there was already 2 votes on Kop; I didn't think voting somebody with 0 votes as an rvs would be helpful. That is why I was comparing Kop to you, since you were also at 2 votes.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
Terrible post, we are 3 pages into the game. Scumread.
We are also on day 2 and you are still making "trolly" posts like "whats up" right after hammering.
In comparison in the last game you played you were asking questions from the first page and you don't give off the trolly vibe.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
i mean there's not much to go off of in the first two pages for any serious content
In post 69, The Bulge wrote:
would love for red to chime in. im not ready to call him scum for the hammer, it didnt seem all too serious and given the gamestate idk if its even AI. but without a comment from him at this point the game will continue to stall and that pushes him right off the fence between trolling and antitown.
You seem to disagree with me in your first post here but then you come to the same conclusion anyway. Or are you seeing this as different from what I'm saying?
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Post #86 (isolation #12) » Mon May 22, 2023 6:50 am
Postby Dunnstral »
I admit that when I was looking at redff's posts I wasn't narrowing things down to just the beginning of the game. Does that make it a "terrible post" or invalidate my point? I don't really think so.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
Terrible post, we are 3 pages into the game. Scumread.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
Terrible post, we are 3 pages into the game. Scumread.
I mean... do you disagree that you've given off that vibe? I feel like hammering five minutes after reading your role PM is enough to singlehandedly conclude that you aren't really trying, and 43 is enough to singlehandedly conclude that you have a trolly vibe, page count be damned.
Like,
you
are the one who caused day 2 to start on page 2, and now you're criticizing someone for making conclusions about you based on your day 1 play?
I'm reading post 87 as disagreeing with your post 80, and post 88 as agreeing with post 87. So logically I would expect you to walk back your read in post 80. Right now your thoughts process doesn't make sense to me, as you seem to be agreeing with post 87 but still hold the opinion in post 80 (which is in conflict with post 87).
Am I misunderstanding what your post 88 is saying?
These games don't look similar to this game for the same reason: You don't give off a trolly vibe in those games. You are welcome to highlight how you think those are similar to this game though.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
Terrible post, we are 3 pages into the game. Scumread.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
Terrible post, we are 3 pages into the game. Scumread.
I mean... do you disagree that you've given off that vibe? I feel like hammering five minutes after reading your role PM is enough to singlehandedly conclude that you aren't really trying, and 43 is enough to singlehandedly conclude that you have a trolly vibe, page count be damned.
Like,
you
are the one who caused day 2 to start on page 2, and now you're criticizing someone for making conclusions about you based on your day 1 play?
I'm reading post 87 as disagreeing with your post 80, and post 88 as agreeing with post 87. So logically I would expect you to walk back your read in post 80. Right now your thoughts process doesn't make sense to me, as you seem to be agreeing with post 87 but still hold the opinion in post 80 (which is in conflict with post 87).
Am I misunderstanding what your post 88 is saying?
In post 103, redFF wrote:
implosion didnt come out with a bs meta read like you did
Hold on, post 87 is Implosion agreeing with the meta read.
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Post #110 (isolation #20) » Tue May 23, 2023 7:17 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 58, MegAzumarill wrote:
Umlaut Who do you think is the towniest/scummiest on the kop wagon except red.
Anyone else can answer as well
In post 90, MegAzumarill wrote:
Liking implo so far, kinda forgor about this game and its late so i'll have more tomorrow
In post 93, MegAzumarill wrote:
How about this game? What are your rhoughts on other slots red?
Meg can you explain how you went from wanting to talk about other people in post 58 to wanting to pressure red in post 93. And did anything ever come out of 58?
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Post #131 (isolation #21) » Wed May 24, 2023 8:36 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 117, implosion wrote:
Dunn, do you actually scumread redFF for the trolly vibe? Or is it just an observation you're not sure what to make of? It seems implicit that it's a scumread but I don't think it's been made explicit, and you started it off by asking "what's up with that" rhetorically. If you do scumread red, is it based entirely on that, or do you also scumread the quickhammer for being a quickhammer/scumread red for other things?
I thought it was something worth bringing up. I would say yes I lean scum due to it. I think the way they have responded during this day phase is of more interest and I think that is scum-indicative as well - I don't like that they are going after me for looking at their meta, and don't think their thought process regarding me after responding to you makes sense.
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
i mean there's not much to go off of in the first two pages for any serious content
In post 69, The Bulge wrote:
would love for red to chime in. im not ready to call him scum for the hammer, it didnt seem all too serious and given the gamestate idk if its even AI. but without a comment from him at this point the game will continue to stall and that pushes him right off the fence between trolling and antitown.
You seem to disagree with me in your first post here but then you come to the same conclusion anyway. Or are you seeing this as different from what I'm saying?
i didnt disagree with the content of your post i just thought "what is up with that" was a silly question with an obvious answer. like i wasnt sure what was so confusing about a nonserious vibe in the gamestate we had here d1
In post 61, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm looking at redFF's posts on site and they seem to try in games. Like they have thought put into their posts. And in this game I am instead getting a trolly vibe which doesn't match with what I am seeing. What is up with that?
i mean there's not much to go off of in the first two pages for any serious content
In post 69, The Bulge wrote:
would love for red to chime in. im not ready to call him scum for the hammer, it didnt seem all too serious and given the gamestate idk if its even AI. but without a comment from him at this point the game will continue to stall and that pushes him right off the fence between trolling and antitown.
You seem to disagree with me in your first post here but then you come to the same conclusion anyway. Or are you seeing this as different from what I'm saying?
i didnt disagree with the content of your post i just thought "what is up with that" was a silly question with an obvious answer. like i wasnt sure what was so confusing about a nonserious vibe in the gamestate we had here d1
I don't think the "obvious answer" was ever given
thats just the thing with obvious answers
my point is you're comparing red's play in normal games and red's play in maybe the slowest moving game ive ever seen and not considering the difference that makes in how serious one can really be, esp on page 2
I don't think the game being slow paced was a factor at the time. One day went by where redff didn't even post, and then redff hammered, and then redff posted at the start of the day.
And I don't think that is just the thing, really. It wasn't obvious to me, they could have explained it if they thought so, but instead we have you explaining it for them and them not commenting at all. This is really just your interpretation IMO.
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Post #197 (isolation #29) » Sun May 28, 2023 7:09 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 196, The Bulge wrote:
like if a townie is trudging thru mud to figure out the game, umlaut is riding on paved roads. he's making more sense of things than i think the game thread has to offer, if that makes any sense.
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Post #213 (isolation #30) » Wed May 31, 2023 6:14 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Andante's vote was rvs and red was eliminated instead of being night killed.
I think it more likely that Andante would have pushed either the e-1 vote from yesterday or the hammer vote yesterday, rather than continue to vote for me
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Post #226 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:58 am
Postby Dunnstral »
Asri I read you as trying pretty hard to throw suspicion onto me right now while making it seem like you are just being reasonable and pointing out observations. But I don't think you are just pointing things out or "thinking about things", I think you are pretty clearly casting shade on me and fishing for agreement.
I don't like that they were pushing that red needed to die just for quick hammering. I believe that is an easy stance for scum to take yesterday. Their thoughts on who mafia is today is not fully clear to me.
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Post #265 (isolation #38) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:09 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Asri I am of the opinion that you are the one in the wrong in this argument. And it is a bit stubborn to suggest that all four of us are instead acting in bad faith collectively.
That doesn't mean you mafia and I am noting that everybody did disagree with you as seeming anti-aligned with anyone. Not sold either way.
I'm not sure that we should be looking for pairings today but instead we should be looking for who is the individually most likely to be mafia, flip that player, and then figure out the partner the next day. Right now I'm not sure who I would vote for today yet. I think we should focus on day 2 when redff got voted out instead of day 1.
This and other Dunn interactions on music with implo and this one felt real wholesome, town wholesome, at the time.
I am bothered by this because you didn't mention this when it happened, so I am worried you are now ascribing meaning to things to try to fit your current read that you believe I am town.
Just a bit thought. I am kind of waiting to hear the opinions of the rest of the players as I'm not sure where they stand right now
Also normally this would be ignored, it is possible that scum killed Adante because they are afraid of the push from Adante, and not like they would have known at the time, but Adante probably tracked Dunn.
I know I know, I definitely am grasping at straws, but trying to find something lol.
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Post #357 (isolation #51) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:52 am
Postby Dunnstral »
Bulge I already responded to you about Umlaut and I showed how what you are saying (that I never interacted) is not true - and I showed where I interacted and how it was not true, and then you dropped the point.
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Post #358 (isolation #52) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:55 am
Postby Dunnstral »
Drew and Bulge both voting for me means they both have to be mafia. To me, at least, since nobody else hammered me. Unless Umlaut is about to switch to me but that seems unlikely since they placed the vote on Doctor Drew.
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Post #366 (isolation #53) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:14 am
Postby Dunnstral »
I cc that; I am vanilla cop. I was blocked the first night and then got Bulge as vanilla. Bulge is the only player I haven't been considering today because my result made that less likely, but it looks like they are a mafia goon.
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Post #376 (isolation #55) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:18 am
Postby Dunnstral »
It doesn't make sense for Doctor Drew as pr to have a vanilla result on me but still preferring me as the vote today, especially when considering somebody else as mafia. They flipped votes off of Asri around the time I said I'd vote for Doctor Drew over Asri
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Post #381 (isolation #56) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:21 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 374, Asri Teroka wrote:
This one wants to hammer for fear of wild card umlaut scum.
If you hammer drew today I will die at night and you should get Bulge tomorrow instead of reevaluating IMO
I think mafia would be more likely to hold back on voting and wait for the rest to vote rather than placing their vote on doctor drew here.
Or put another way, if Umlaut is mafia they could win today since Bulge would have to be the town and they are voting for me, but instead they have chosen to bus
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Post #401 (isolation #57) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:55 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 384, The Bulge wrote:
meanwhile meg and drew have both been gunning for asri bc their slot was blocked after meg voiced suspicion of asri above anyone else d2. there is a clearly traceable logic there. there is no logic or trajectory with dunn's claim.
Drew's stance on my slot does not make sense given their check. I believe the way I have avoided pushing on you given you've done frankly little today is telling
If that isn't objectively obv scum then I don't know what is.
I wasn't going to claim because Asri was leaning towards you and claiming would just force a 1v1 and my role would have been useful if I got it off again and it wasn't c lear who the team was today
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Post #404 (isolation #59) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
Postby Dunnstral »
If you had a vanilla check on me you would have thought I was more likely to be town than not. Since I am only half as likely to be mafia as those you didn't check. Instead you pushed me anyway for very flimsy reasons - I think it was just Andante dying.
