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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:52 am

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In post 486, osuka wrote: holy shit either my brain is fried and i desperately need sleep, or half of you can't put together a sentence to save your fucking lives, huh? this entire thread hurts to read
In post 487, osuka wrote: this is the first post in the thread that actually makes any sort of sense and it's well-written enough that i understood all of it on the first try. great jorb!
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:54 am

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In post 482, osuka wrote: that reads like you're rambling and it makes negative sense
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:56 am

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In post 492, Meuh wrote:
In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
This is my first game with Ausuka but this kinda feels like an exaggeration? Like I am sure she has flipped scum before. Where does that fit into this?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 am

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In post 499, Invisibility wrote: I do not like the reasoning for this vote
What don't you like about it?
In post 499, Invisibility wrote: this feels like fluff which is a thing that is probably still scummy in this setup
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 am

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In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
scum also love white knighting ausuka (which i would know because i have) :shifty:
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:59 am

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okay i have to actually play this game today i guess
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:01 am

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In post 490, Ausuka wrote:
In post 476, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 470, Ausuka wrote:
In post 469, Radical Rat wrote: To an extent, yes, but also there's a reason the things are scummy, and that's usually because scum does them.
Everything is context dependent but on the whole i disagree with this
How would you define "scummy" if not as "like scum?"
Things that a lot people consider scummy
So what is the point you're actually making here then? Remove the word "scummy" from your vocabulary, what is it you're trying to point out about Black?
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:01 am

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In post 504, Skygazer wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
scum also love white knighting ausuka (which i would know because i have) :shifty:
When did this happen
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:02 am

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In post 506, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 490, Ausuka wrote:
In post 476, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 470, Ausuka wrote:
In post 469, Radical Rat wrote: To an extent, yes, but also there's a reason the things are scummy, and that's usually because scum does them.
Everything is context dependent but on the whole i disagree with this
How would you define "scummy" if not as "like scum?"
Things that a lot people consider scummy
So what is the point you're actually making here then? Remove the word "scummy" from your vocabulary, what is it you're trying to point out about Black?
Doing things blatantly opportunistically - like voting the two biggest wagons consecutively without any real reason to do so - is something I think scum are less likely to do because they are the most preoccupied with playing how town 'should'
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:04 am

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Alright, that makes more sense, thank you.

I'd still hesitate to hand out townreads for it, but I understand the point better.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:05 am

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I haven't actually made up my mind about Black yet. I think I'm leaning scum though
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:07 am

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In post 448, Black wrote: I think scum want to publicly town hunt this game. Like moreso than usual because I feel like the scum teams probably want to coordinate with each other as far as knocking off townies. The problem is townies are going to do this too because it's what townies do. So it might be hard to pinpoint where the noise is coming from but I think we can at least feel good about scum helping town sort
Isn't this a bit contradictory? If both scumteams are sharing genuine townreads, they're just making the PoE worse for them aren't they?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:12 am

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In post 499, Invisibility wrote:
In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me.
Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
I do not like the reasoning for this vote
In post 448, Black wrote: I think scum want to publicly town hunt this game. Like moreso than usual because I feel like the scum teams probably want to coordinate with each other as far as knocking off townies. The problem is townies are going to do this too because it's what townies do. So it might be hard to pinpoint where the noise is coming from but I think we can at least feel good about scum helping town sort
this feels like fluff which is a thing that is probably still scummy in this setup
VOTE: Black
I think the reasoning itself is fine but the bolded bit seems like it's overjustifying which I don't love
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:12 am

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In post 497, Bingle wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
Who is it and why?
You and/or Black, maybe Drew
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:15 am

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In post 502, Black wrote:
In post 492, Meuh wrote:
In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
This is my first game with Ausuka but this kinda feels like an exaggeration? Like I am sure she has flipped scum before. Where does that fit into this?
Played with her twice, she was town both times and this happened in both games, sure she could still be theoretically scum but it's enough to find the Ausuka wagon bad
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:16 am

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In post 507, Ausuka wrote:
In post 504, Skygazer wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
scum also love white knighting ausuka (which i would know because i have) :shifty:
When did this happen
Yeah what
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:16 am

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Composition wise, I definitely like the Bingle wagon better than the Ausuka wagon
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:16 am

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VOTE: Black
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:17 am

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In post 516, Radical Rat wrote: Composition wise, I definitely like the Bingle wagon better than the Ausuka wagon
Agreed, though I also feel like the setup makes wagon composition less pertinent than it usually would
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:18 am

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In post 511, Radical Rat wrote: Isn't this a bit contradictory? If both scumteams are sharing genuine townreads, they're just making the PoE worse for them aren't they?
I guess this makes sense
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:19 am

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In post 512, Meuh wrote: I think the reasoning itself is fine but the bolded bit seems like it's overjustifying which I don't love
The bolded part is basically the only reason I'm voting for her lol. It's all gut
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:20 am

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In post 514, Meuh wrote: Played with her twice, she was town both times and this happened in both games, sure she could still be theoretically scum but it's enough to find the Ausuka wagon bad
So this only happened twice? Ok so it is an exaggeration
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:22 am

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In post 515, Meuh wrote:
In post 507, Ausuka wrote:
In post 504, Skygazer wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
scum also love white knighting ausuka (which i would know because i have) :shifty:
When did this happen
Yeah what
This feels kinda defensive like "I'm not white knighting Ausuka when did this happen?!"
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:25 am

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VOTE: Meuh

I’ll probably do a readslist tonight.

Pedit: I think both Meuh and merlyn are defending ausuka much more strongly than anything ausuka’s done merits, FWIW.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:25 am

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I mean, I was referring to the skygazer white knighting me part. I don't remember it happening
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