Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.12

with 15 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-06-28 17:00:00).

yeet

Bingle [4]:

Ausuka, Firebringer, The Bulge, Invisibility

Ausuka [3]:

Umlaut, Black, Doctor Drew

Doctor Drew [2]:

osuka, Merlyn

Cook [2]:

Bellaphant, Radical Rat

Black [1]:

Meuh

Meuh [1]:

Bingle

not voting [2]:

Skygazer, Cook

mod notes

Invisibility is v/la until monday.
this is a mod note.

flavour

[Umlaut]

Sold.

VOTE: Cook

[Datisi]

prodding Firebringer and Cook.

[Firebringer]

flavour

This guy needs to marry this girl

[Firebringer]

Meuh [1]: Bingle

This is a bad vote

Also Datisi is still scum

[Ausuka]

Hi so I got like chocolate oreo here it's really nice

[Datisi]

replacing Cook.

[Ausuka]

I’d be interested in Ausuka/Merlyn takes on meuhs response to sg being you didn’t wk ausuka compared to scum wouldn’t wk ausuka.

I think it was towny because it was a good point about skygazer being sus rather than trying to defend herself from a vague hypothetical which wasn't really substantiated (and I also disagree with being a self proclaimed expert on ausuka)

[Ausuka]

Idk how to respond to the cook wagon because her posts are indeed ??? but like I do think she's like that as town too and usually gets limmed early sooooo hopefully the replacement is more readable

[Ausuka]

Ausuka, why do you disagree? You were in the same game with Osuka and I, you cannot say they are the same here.

Idk what to say except if you don't think osuka has been aggressive and "too nice" i think we are reading different games

[Datisi]

sheepsaysmeep replaces Cook.

[sheepsaysmeep]

idk why I do this to myself

[Radical Rat]

Welcome aboard! I'm sorry you rolled scum

[sheepsaysmeep]

Hardclaim town actually

[Radical Rat]

Oh damn, my bad

[osuka]

Alright:

First, wagon on me:

Ausuka - Primarily, voting me as OMGUS. I still think Ausuka isn't particularly towny, but generally her placement on my wagon isn't a really scummy one.
Firebringer - Voting me for a meta case (and a bad one). His case on me is that I'm not doing a thing that's NAI for me, I'm doing a thing that's NAI for me, and that I'm doing a thing that he claims isn't NAI for me based on a game he was the backup mod for, but which is notably NAI for me. I'm not really a player who can be caught via 'meta case'. Regardless, I believe that Firebringer believes the case, which makes him a fairly strong town read.
The Bulge - Apparently, the main thrust of Bulge's scum read on me was my leading question at Ausuka. I had thought there was a significant portion to do with the mech speak accusation, but on reread it does seem very reasonable that that callout was nonspecific and not actually aimed at me. Bulge's accusation that it's ridiculous I would think so is, imo, silly, since his clarification that it wasn't actually about mechspeak was directly quoting a post about people specifically calling me out for mechspeak. The implication there, to me, was that the 388 was in fact singling me out. I don't really think that is unreasonable. Of the people voting me, I think this is the worst vote, but I don't particularly think it makes Bulge scum.
Invisibility - Vizzy's mostly been sheeping bad cases on me, but the way the way she's doing it doesn't scream scum to me.


Of these 4 I think there is no way there's a pair of scum and that it's unlikely that there are two different scumteams represented. Generally, despite the shit quality of each of the reads, I think they are more likely than not to actually be things the people behind them think. I vaguely agree that the wagon on me is roughly town driven.

unless i missed something - why are you offering reads on the people on your wagon? what is this?

[osuka]

I like Bulge's case on Bingle but then I look at Bingle's ISO and it's like, hmm. Kind of just wanna leave that slot to sort for later

Last game of this sort(technically fire and ice) Bulge was way less present than here. They would kind of pop in to piss of python(which I was doing much the same lol).

This Bulge seems so different, like they turned on try hard mode. It really is pinging me hard in my gut.

Though that could just be the Wendys I just ate.

i was avoiding that game as much as i could for my own sanity's sake, this playerlist is a joy

it better not have been because of me

not even close

<3

[osuka]

I haven't been dancing around the Bingle wagon, I have been pretty clear I don't think anything they have done seems scummy and I don't have any interest in joining it.

Sure you have. You've not had any interest in joining it, but that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't think scum will really want to hop on my wagon here. You also haven't done any real defending of me, which is reasonable. I don't particularly scumread your lack of involvement in the wagon, but it is where I expect scum to be atm. Similarly, Meuh also doesn't 'have any interest in joining it'. Compare: Umlaut and Merlyn actively defending me, although not particularly strongly.

?????????????

if you're town, why would scum not jump on your wagon?

[Datisi]

prodding Bellaphant.

[osuka]

I feel like "everyone on my wagon is town" is not the readlist Bingle comes up with if they are just making things up to sound towny

why? i've definitely seen weirder and i think that readslist makes close to no sense regardless of anyone's alignment lmao

[osuka]

idk why I do this to myself

scumclaim
VOTE: sheep

[osuka]

go catch up and convince me otherwise

[sheepsaysmeep]

im trying but reading is really boring

[Skygazer]

i'm sleppy

[Skygazer]

will make a concerted effort to read 2nite if i dont fall asleep. i feel like once i get goin i'll stay goin. sorry guys, low motivation lately :c