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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:19 am

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In post 296, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Days
- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
In post 2, bugspray wrote: Day 1 begins. Nobody is voting to put anyone else into the box.

(expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)
@mod Is the day deadline wrong or am I misunderstanding the rule?

the deadline is correct; the stated deadline from the 'Mechanical Rules and Information' section supercedes the one above:

In post 0, bugspray wrote:
Mechanical Rules and Information
(this section may be incomplete, more things will be added, removed, or changed as they become public knowledge or change. some of this may require zeitgeist. rest assured, all rules are written down in the moderator thread)
  • Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players must vote on who to put into the box.
  • Night phases last for 24 hours (one earth spinny). During this time players with night actions will take night actions.

sorry for any confusion
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:19 am

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OK, start reviewing the whole d1 for now:
page1: Mostly greeting stuff, with aliana started discussing the gm
page2: Bianco put up some deeper exploration, me bumping my observation, start with jason, bianco and aliana discuss the box, which eventually lead to part of revealing in the op
page3: Lots of experiments conducted jason, bianco, aliana and me. I mentioned the bracket, and it got closed successfully.

page4: We made it to page 4 with a discussion of sample pm.
In post 79, bugspray wrote:
In post 78, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 76, biancospino wrote:
In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?
Moderator error.
We started playing a normal mafia from here. and is where I got 2 naked votes from doctor and jason. I didn't really like their post in page 3, like:
Spoiler:
In post 89, JasonWazza wrote: Mine is real.

And i will point this out, pondering aloud may actually help the town as a whole, given that we were given the single box answer publicly by pondering about the box.
In post 90, Doctor Drew wrote: Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

I couldn't be sure if it's a way for Town!drew to get things out of rvs (as he mentioned in ), or just a wierd way scum!drew tried to interact with his partner jason, or simply trying to push me.
And @drew: And are you serious about scumreading bianco and me at that time or is this simply a joke?
In post 97, Doctor Drew wrote: Please don't tell me this as easy as just Bianco/heip.
And p4 ends with ceej popped up and encouraged us to play normal mafia.

Page5 start with something I like about Jason () Nice question, though no reply from the mod. Then Jason had a quick realtime interaction with me, arguing about several things. I'm not quite good at doing argues, especially in real-time situations. Looking back, I DID look sussy in some minior details, but jason and drew had something too, so are they pushing a bit too hard? Bianco has also voted for me ()
Ircher stated to do some defence on me, and looks fine on me.
The weirdest post on p5 is merlyn's . The first sentence is fine, and the second one?felt somehow overly defensive.

More will come out tomorrow.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:20 am

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In post 300, qm camille wrote:
In post 296, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Days
- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
In post 2, bugspray wrote: Day 1 begins. Nobody is voting to put anyone else into the box.

(expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)
@mod Is the day deadline wrong or am I misunderstanding the rule?

the deadline is correct; the stated deadline from the 'Mechanical Rules and Information' section supercedes the one above:

In post 0, bugspray wrote:
Mechanical Rules and Information
(this section may be incomplete, more things will be added, removed, or changed as they become public knowledge or change. some of this may require zeitgeist. rest assured, all rules are written down in the moderator thread)
  • Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players must vote on who to put into the box.
  • Night phases last for 24 hours (one earth spinny). During this time players with night actions will take night actions.

sorry for any confusion
I see. Thanks!
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:52 am

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The game is getting wierd...
Why we are reaching late day1, where we
a) Not having lots of townread globally. Probably we are having experienced scums among the active players to screw us up?
b) Wagon is not sth. I like. Will do some research tommorow.
c) So many elim options there... Why?
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:20 am

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In post 298, Merlyn wrote: Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?
Mhm, no, and we've gone over this point already; , .
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:39 am

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In post 301, heipizhu4 wrote:I I didn't really like their post in page 3, like:
Spoiler:
In post 89, JasonWazza wrote: Mine is real.

And i will point this out, pondering aloud may actually help the town as a whole, given that we were given the single box answer publicly by pondering about the box.
In post 90, Doctor Drew wrote: Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

I couldn't be sure if it's a way for Town!drew to get things out of rvs (as he mentioned in ), or just a wierd way scum!drew tried to interact with his partner jason, or simply trying to push me.
Am I missing something, there is no actual interacting between Drew and Jason on p4 (I assume "page 3" was a typo since you linked , )?
They both voted you in quick succession, but other than that, they seemed to operate fairly indipendently? In fact the two posts you've linked entirely fail to support your hypothesis, Drew is actually talking to me and
you
, not at all to JW, in 90
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:41 am

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To add to bianco's point, Scum have day talk, there is no need to communicate in thread.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:46 am

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In post 304, biancospino wrote:
In post 298, Merlyn wrote: Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?
Mhm, no, and we've gone over this point already; , .
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:28 am

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VOTE: Merlyn
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I get a vibe of looking for reasons to cast suspicion rather than genuine trying to sort.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:12 am

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ah, the patented "voting Merlyn for vibes" vote that's happened so much in this game.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:33 am

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In post 309, Merlyn wrote: ah, the patented "voting Merlyn for vibes" vote that's happened so much in this game.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:07 am

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In post 298, Merlyn wrote: Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?
I don't really think this is an issue. Drew scum reads you and me independently of each other. That doesn't mean we're scum together, but rather, we're Drew's two strongest reads. Trying to form associative reads on Day 1 is a fool's errand.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:10 am

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In post 301, heipizhu4 wrote: OK, start reviewing the whole d1 for now:
page1: Mostly greeting stuff, with aliana started discussing the gm
page2: Bianco put up some deeper exploration, me bumping my observation, start with jason, bianco and aliana discuss the box, which eventually lead to part of revealing in the op
page3: Lots of experiments conducted jason, bianco, aliana and me. I mentioned the bracket, and it got closed successfully.

page4: We made it to page 4 with a discussion of sample pm.
In post 79, bugspray wrote:
In post 78, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 76, biancospino wrote:
In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?
Moderator error.
We started playing a normal mafia from here. and is where I got 2 naked votes from doctor and jason. I didn't really like their post in page 3, like:
Spoiler:
In post 89, JasonWazza wrote: Mine is real.

And i will point this out, pondering aloud may actually help the town as a whole, given that we were given the single box answer publicly by pondering about the box.
In post 90, Doctor Drew wrote: Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

I couldn't be sure if it's a way for Town!drew to get things out of rvs (as he mentioned in ), or just a wierd way scum!drew tried to interact with his partner jason, or simply trying to push me.
And @drew: And are you serious about scumreading bianco and me at that time or is this simply a joke?
In post 97, Doctor Drew wrote: Please don't tell me this as easy as just Bianco/heip.
And p4 ends with ceej popped up and encouraged us to play normal mafia.

Page5 start with something I like about Jason () Nice question, though no reply from the mod. Then Jason had a quick realtime interaction with me, arguing about several things. I'm not quite good at doing argues, especially in real-time situations. Looking back, I DID look sussy in some minior details, but jason and drew had something too, so are they pushing a bit too hard? Bianco has also voted for me ()
Ircher stated to do some defence on me, and looks fine on me.
The weirdest post on p5 is merlyn's . The first sentence is fine, and the second one?felt somehow overly defensive.

More will come out tomorrow.
Hi heipizhu, I don't think you ever answered my question earlier about 232.
In post 240, Ircher wrote:
In post 232, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 230, JasonWazza wrote: and how am i wrongly pushing you by explaining why i had first voted you over 100 posts later?
Because it's a scumplay to do inaccurate quotes. I have previously mentioned that agreed with some of your accusations on me, but I can't really say I like this one. You seem to be underestimating the power of the information, or why the mod would say the reviewers would take a moral duty upon themselves to tell as many people as possible so that they do not sign up for the game?
I'm not sure I followed this 100%. Which inaccurate quotes are you referring to here?
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:11 am

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Also, did you not have any analysis for the first three or so pages? Mechanical stuff can be harder to read, but there's usually something to gleam there too.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:13 am

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In post 308, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Merlyn
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I get a vibe of looking for reasons to cast suspicion rather than genuine trying to sort.
In post 309, Merlyn wrote: ah, the patented "voting Merlyn for vibes" vote that's happened so much in this game.
No, I think that was a good vote based on your previous post.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:02 pm

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In post 303, heipizhu4 wrote: The game is getting wierd...
Why we are reaching late day1, where we
a) Not having lots of townread globally. Probably we are having experienced scums among the active players to screw us up?
b) Wagon is not sth. I like. Will do some research tommorow.
c) So many elim options there... Why?
I vibe with this, I had similar thoughts come to my mind yesterday. I kind of want to townread it?
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:05 pm

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By the way, I noticed that it says "choose one player to put in a box" and not "the box" in the mafia role PM, so I asked for clarification. The box we vote people into during the day is the same box that the mafia put people into at night.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:07 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote: There is only one box, and everyone inside has to share.
Apricot, we already knew that.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:09 pm

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I saw that, the wording just made me question it lol.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:10 pm

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In post 316, Aliana wrote: By the way, I noticed that it says "choose one player to put in a box" and not "the box" in the mafia role PM, so I asked for clarification. The box we vote people into during the day is the same box that the mafia put people into at night.
I thought we weren't going to talk much mech anymore in this game, do better Aluminum.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:13 pm

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Apricot? Aluminum? Is every word starting with A now my name?
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:14 pm

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Did you only just now notice?
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:20 pm

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I noticed, but this? And ACCORDION? This is getting out of hand!
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:23 pm

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In post 278, JasonWazza wrote: I'm gonna give my very broad reads of the game so far, note these buckets are a bit wider then normal and in no particular order.

Town;
Drew
CJ
Accordion

Null;
imaginality
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Scum;
Merlyn
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Bianco
On a more serious note, I'm not sure if I missed this, but what's the reasoning for putting bianco in the scum list?
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:26 pm

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Feels very similar to Brass and Shrapnel to me.
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