Micro 1085: Even/Odd Killers [GAME OVER]

[Roden]

@Roden: True, but as I say, from vibes I feel that they're townie. Playstyle, sure but vibes tell me they're town.

Who is your top townread?

Either Datisi or Sheep

I also asked you to comment on Datisi.

Could you oblige please?

You gotta give me time to type

[JasonWazza]

Votecount 1.11

Appearance (3) - Thestatusquo, Merlyn, Roden
Thestatusquo (2) - Donempire, sheepsaysmeep
donempire (2) - fireisredsir, Datisi
Datisi (1) - Deltabreedy

Not voting (1) - Appearance

(expired on 2023-07-05 18:05:27) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

[Datisi]

also it feels to me that most of your case around me is built on the assumption that i'm noobscum or that i don't know how to play scum which like always annoys the shit out of me lmao

[Roden]

Can you quantify that for me?

It was a lot of waffle to get down to... You haven't sorted him yet.

Are they a townlean then?

Not quantify, but just say what you mean kind of thing.

Is this at me? I thought I was very explicit with my thoughts there lol

[Merlyn]

Hiya Delta!

I don't like how Merlyn skirted over someone going to E-1 here.

what should I have said? "No, stop, you fools!" Shea knows the consequences of a lim that early, it's more useful to see where he ends up going with it.

I think the page 2 avoidance of addressing the E-1, combined with what has felt like at times some quite drifty/actively lurky gameplay plus the arguably bad-faith argument with Appearance maybe felt just a bit too much off the mark. It seemed genuine when I read it but on reflection (and I won't edit the above, so as to show my thought process), the whole exchange felt a bit confrontational as opposed to genuine belief that Appearance was scum.

No, the argument was in good faith, and no I don't think Appearance is town.

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: deltabreedy

[Deltabreedy]

also it feels to me that most of your case around me is built on the assumption that i'm noobscum or that i don't know how to play scum which like always annoys the shit out of me lmao

That's not something I've put across, it's vastly reductive and is a poor attempt at discrediting my argument.

Again - why is your aim primarily to discredit what I am saying through vague assertions rather than telling me where my vote should be going?

I also don't care if you're annoyed at this - I won't be abandoning this line of thought until I'm satisfied.

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Ninja'd:

Can I get a readslist please Merlyn?

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@Roden: I typed it after your first post and before your second.

I was just reminding you of the question.

And your followup before addressing my request for you to clarify did clear it up so thank you. I think you're pretty off with that read tbh but cheers.

[Merlyn]

I'll make one tonight when I get home from work

[Datisi]

@delta (am on mobile so no quote surgery)

that's not something you put forward, but i can very clearly see it's implied. because people don't accuse good scum of "perspective slipping" and "no intent behind scumhunting"

again, because your view of my slot is garbage and i'm trying to change your mind and/or see whether you really believe it

why should i be telling you where to vote. you can read the game and see who i've expressed suspicion on and who i'm voting right now

[Deltabreedy]

No, you're really seriously trying to discredit my argument off the back of nothing - do you honestly think I'm trying to put you down as newbscum when you're approaching 25000 posts here? Seriously?

There's a base level of understanding of the game that is implicit with the fact that you have such a high count here - so no, I'm categorically not implying shit.

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The narrative that I'm saying you're newbscum is an entirely fabricated argument that serves to cement my position on you being scum rather than weaken it.

[fireisredsir]

i also think that while not directly calling him noobscum your case is a really semantic one that doesn't really feel like good faith sorting

i think that there's no way to believe that was a legit slip without believing that datisi is incompetent bc lol

i also think this is more like the points you push when you're scum

[Datisi]

honie you're accusing me of perspective slipping, what are you talking about lmao

[fireisredsir]

the e-1 was also on me not sheep

[Datisi]

you're accusing me of something that realistically, only very incompetent scum ever makes a mistake on, but then you're claiming you're not accusing me of being a noob

dude

[fireisredsir]

I mean I can put a full-on case together on you but at present it's a central pillar yeah.

Nothing you've said is really convincing me that I need more to be honest.

this post is probably the worst one

[Deltabreedy]

Will it make you happier if I say they made a mistake whilst being very very experienced, then doff my cap and tug my forelock?

No-one is immune to perspective slipping and tbh you've got a bit of an ego if you're getting offended at this.

Again, I think this is faux outrage.

[Deltabreedy]

you're accusing me of something that realistically, only very incompetent scum ever makes a mistake on, but then you're claiming you're not accusing me of being a noob

dude

If you want to push the narrative that you're incompetent, that's more on you than it is on me.

I'm still yet to see a good reason why I oughtn't keep my vote here. This reaction

stinks

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[Datisi]

i'm typing these posts while taking a serene night walk in the countryside

this ain't even close to what my outrage looks like

[fireisredsir]

i think that reading it in the manner that you did requires deliberately ignoring a more likely explanation

[Datisi]

If you want to push the narrative that you're incompetent

[Datisi]

i also think that while not directly calling him noobscum your case is a really semantic one that doesn't really feel like good faith sorting

i think that there's no way to believe that was a legit slip without believing that datisi is incompetent bc lol

i also think this is more like the points you push when you're scum

i was actually thinking this is townie for him

i'd need to actually check his scum games, but i don't get the vibe he's a "purposefully push hella bad arguments at a relatively townread person for townpoints"

[Deltabreedy]

i'm typing these posts while taking a serene night walk in the countryside

this ain't even close to what my outrage looks like

As I said. Faux outrage.

[Deltabreedy]

If you want to push the narrative that you're incompetent

Quote it in full now mate

[fireisredsir]

i also think that while not directly calling him noobscum your case is a really semantic one that doesn't really feel like good faith sorting

i think that there's no way to believe that was a legit slip without believing that datisi is incompetent bc lol

i also think this is more like the points you push when you're scum

i was actually thinking this is townie for him

i'd need to actually check his scum games, but i don't get the vibe he's a "purposefully push hella bad arguments at a relatively townread person for townpoints"

i went and read/skimmed a town and a scum game and i definitely did lol

more that his arguments as scum just seemed really kinda bad whereas as town they were sometimes bad but he was more likely to continue trying to sort and solve and reassess rather than doubling down on them

[JasonWazza]

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