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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:49 am

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Ew
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:56 am

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Nightplay wise I think the vig shouldn't be shooting tonight and that if the Watcher has a red check on Italiano they also shouldn't come out. If they have a red check on someone else then they should come out and we should figure out if it's a good idea for me to be on them instead of S_S. If it is I'll 50/50 it to try and eat the bullet there
In post 2224, iamveryhappy wrote: I trust Italiano to some extent.
If you want me to claim I should
Claim targets/actions @neapolitan
Claim tomorrow instead unless you have useful red/green checks you haven't crumbed (Italiano Red is not a useful check)

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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:05 am

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In post 2224, iamveryhappy wrote: I trust Italiano to some extent.
If you want me to claim I should
Claim targets/actions @neapolitan
Also like how would a town!Italiano setup even work? That'd be

Town Tracker

Town Ascetic 3-shot Rolecop

Town Backup Watcher

Town Novice 2-shot Weak Bodyguard

Town Vigilante
(At this point they might actually be ungated)
Town Odd-night Neapolitan

Town Watcher/Vanilla Town

Vanilla Town

Vanilla Town

Vanilla Town

Mafia

Mafia

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That just feels like too many PR's at that point

Also I just realized something
In post 2216, fireisredsir wrote: im confused why vig didn't shoot italiano
Vig could be Loyal

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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:10 am

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ew you right
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:11 am

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Wow, this is a lot of town PRs?

Italiano is confirmed right
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:20 am

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In post 2229, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Wow, this is a lot of town PRs?

Italiano is confirmed right
Italiano's very likely scum here, why do you think Italiano's confirmed?

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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:25 am

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I think I misused the term "confirmed".
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:18 am

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Alright go ahead and bus me.

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I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:19 am

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kk
gettem
so
the term 'bus' is scum sring scum stuff like that
so both of you are scum
VOTE: italiano ew scummy wummy baka
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:25 am

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What do we think about Italiano giving up instead of trying to go for the sweep after KKFC and happy thought he could be town? Also since we're going to be on S_S the Watcher should probably ask for clarification overnight on who they have to target to see the kill if S_S is the target of the nightkill

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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:40 am

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nah but
we already have 4 town power roles: the weak thingy, tracker, rolecop and vig
surely enough
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:49 am

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In post 2235, iamveryhappy wrote: nah but
we already have 4 town power roles: the weak thingy, tracker, rolecop and vig
surely enough
Tracker's dead and so is the Rolecop, Klick/Black was the Tracker and Cook was Rolecop.

From the PR's still alive we've got:
  • Novice 2-shot Weak Bodyguard (Me, and there's no more checks coming from here since I'm stuck keeping S_S alive)
  • Vig (Not outed, but also the optimal play from them is to stop shooting for the rest of the game)
  • Watcher (Maybe exists? But if they do then the setup probably implies a Ninja so they might not actually be that useful)
We still have dayplay to do, don't turn your brain off trying to solve with nightplay cause we don't actually have the roles for that. Also my point wasn't if Italiano is scum (like he already admitted it), my question is why he gave up on trying to pocket you/KKFC for the sweep?

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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:57 am

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man probably saw that you claimed and went aw shit
watcher is likely nonexistent like my biology teacher
your role is a protection role w/weak as well
man is outed very clearly
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:05 am

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i think he was pretty outed but giving up is always a strange choice

i feel like it's more likely to be a strategic choice than literally giving up

see recent dance game where scum ydra left the dance to pull me out of it and people thought she was giving up and so limmed the wrong person without really thinking about things

i guess my point is that people should be careful about assumptions here since he probably would be doing this if he thinks he left his team in a good place and looking unpaired w him? otherwise it doesn't really make sense
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:06 am

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also i interpreted katy's post differently @flower, i thought he was saying confirmed scum not confirmed town

im not sure why anyone would think italiano is confirmed town lol
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:26 am

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In post 2230, Flower wrote:
In post 2229, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Wow, this is a lot of town PRs?

Italiano is confirmed right
Italiano's very likely scum here, why do you think Italiano's confirmed?

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Oh I meant confirmed scum sorry! I was confused by your response at first.
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:48 am

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when Italiano made that post both Katy and Happy expressed that they didn't TR Italiano so I think it was just joever and he wants to prevent further associatives like Fire said
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:51 am

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In post 2224, iamveryhappy wrote: I trust Italiano to some extent.
If you want me to claim I should
Claim targets/actions @neapolitan
why did you trust Italiano here?
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:53 am

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In post 2242, Invisibility wrote:
In post 2224, iamveryhappy wrote: I trust Italiano to some extent.
If you want me to claim I should
Claim targets/actions @neapolitan
why did you trust Italiano here?
I trust that italiano is Neapolitan yes
but the red one
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:58 am

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yeah prob
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:00 am

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In post 2238, fireisredsir wrote: i feel like it's more likely to be a strategic choice than literally giving up
Oh for sure. I mean he can already tell that he's not getting out of it today, so why give up info by fighting it.

And he thinks his team's in a good spot so he doesn't need to create WIFOM/muddy the waters.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:01 am

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I think it's probably better to just end the day so scum don't have as much info off of which to decide the kill.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:04 am

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Also, odd-night cop claims are never real.

The next time you all see an odd-night cop claim, you know what to do.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:08 am

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In post 2247, Something_Smart wrote: Also, odd-night cop claims are never real.

The next time you all see an odd-night cop claim, you know what to do.
time for me to put a town odd-night cop in my setup
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:09 am

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In post 2246, Something_Smart wrote: I think it's probably better to just end the day so scum don't have as much info off of which to decide the kill.
VOTE: Italiano

I will say:
Tracker
Watcher
Backup Watcher
Vig
Weak Bodyguard
Cop

isn't this a lot of town PRs? I have no understanding of the meta for these games but it seems off to me. Is it possible that we had a backup Watcher and no Watcher?

I think I trust Flower claim because of the soft and it explains why they didn't call out S_S harder for the weird mechanics mismatch yday.

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