Mini Normal 2304: Conway's Game Of Life [GAME OVER!]

[Espeonage]

If you want some analysis not based around you, then I guess now is a good time to say that sheep has actually been doing some good questioning and showing poise and restraint wrt to reads. I like that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I find it particularly odd for Drew to be coming in here saying Hu Tao is scummy for his catch-up and then immediately saying he didn't say he was scum.
What's wrong with asking for clarification?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I did say I have been sick as all hell.

Welcome back. I hope you're well now.

[Espeonage]

See the difference is that drew said scum lean. Look I'm not sure happy with Drew's one either, but, yours is the more egregious of the two.

[humaneatingmonkey]

And egregious why? Because I want some clarification?

[Espeonage]

I know this wasn't directed to me but why expect this? Cause you're both the top scumreads?

Do you feel I'm the top scumread? Espe is the top wagon, I don't feel like I'm the top scumread.
Why do you scumread me?

See this is the kind of post that perfectly shows why I think you're trying to control narrative in a scummy way.

The three leading scumreads of the game (and minis usually have three) are very clearly Myself, Owl, and you. And yet this is the point you choose to dispute because it doesn't fit your narrative of how you should be read.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I just don't think it's true. It's all there is.
You even added Owl there as an afterthought, but Hu Tao believes it's between the two of us. You didn't even give him the chance to show his cards.

Listen, I'm a very reasonable person. Mafia is fact-based.
If Hu Tao can point me to all the people who think I'm scum, and indeed show me that it's between humaneatingmonkey and Espe then I'll see it.
It's not like I wash over all the posts that are in this game. It's a question. Anyone can answer it. That's what this game is about.

[Random Nurse]

You know, Espionage has ignored my posts directed towards him twice now.

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[Espeonage]

You know, Espionage has ignored my posts directed towards him twice now.

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ignored is incorrect, skimmed past.

[Espeonage]

Of course Mafia get defensive, but the main focus of a mafia, especially a new mafia is to not make waves. So the vibe check says dumb town.

On this point do you read Quiet Owl as being defensive in our interactions?

yes

[Espeonage]

Such a profound and game defining question from so not long ago. I sure hope this allows you to game solve in a way previously unavailable.

[Random Nurse]

Such a profound and game defining question from so not long ago. I sure hope this allows you to game solve in a way previously unavailable.

You shouldn't be so resistant in answering one of my three posts, Espeonage.

[Espeonage]

Such a profound and game defining question from so not long ago. I sure hope this allows you to game solve in a way previously unavailable.

You shouldn't be so resistant in answering one of my three posts, Espeonage.

I literally ISO'd you.

[Espeonage]

Of course Mafia get defensive, but the main focus of a mafia, especially a new mafia is to not make waves. So the vibe check says dumb town.

On this point do you read Quiet Owl as being defensive in our interactions?

Yes

Monkey's eagerness to control the game feels scum-motivated. And this is only exacerbated by the fact that they have really gone hard on the proverbial low hanging fruit.

The lining up of lynches is also always something I am watchful of. In both cases, if owl is town, monkey is just being negligent if town, and if owl is scum it's a very aggressive theater strat. The common thread being that monkey lining up lynches is poo poo.

vote: humaneatingmonkey

IIRC HEM had 3 votes at this time.

Could it be reaching for low-hanging fruit adding a fourth vote at this time?

Surely this is rhetorical.

You ain't no bogeyman. You're just scummy.

Don't discredit discourse bc you're offended.

The brief tonal shift strikes me as odd.

This is a statement sir

[Espeonage]

This game is now the ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer thread. Can we get this moved to Mish Mash?

[Random Nurse]

I don't appreciate your defensiveness. Your recent posts come off as frustrated, short, and lashing out.

You weren't like this earlier.

[Random Nurse]

Question is whether or not this behavior is a Scumtell of yours or not.

Anyone else here have experience playing with Scum!Espeonage?

[Quiet Owl]

hu and bob seems like town vs town. having looked closely at their interactions, drew's behaviour looks even weirder. a really really awkward pocketing attempt maybe?

Also why the vote on Hy Tao when as far as i can tell the only really prior stance on him is this one. going from hu looking liek town to a vote.

On the back of dunns vote on Hu Tao. Looks very opportunistic and with little progression.

VOTE: Owl

"opportunistic" opportunistic would be going after espeon at this point.
i would like to be able to sort hu's slot confidently, prior to voting i was giving them a weak townread, but their catty behaviour since isn't alignment indicative and just makes me dislike them as a person.

hu, please reconsider your approach to the game?

[Quiet Owl]

I don't appreciate your defensiveness. Your recent posts come off as frustrated, short, and lashing out.

You weren't like this earlier.

being scumread for being absent due to a nasty cold is generally a universally frustrating experience.
i don't appreciate the lashing out, but i suspect this explains it quite well.

[humaneatingmonkey]

for being absent

no one is saying this

[Peregrine]

The vibes in this thread are gnarly in a bad way!!

I will catch up tonight or tomorrow (it shouldn’t take long!) but as a sneak peek I see Espeonage as mafia still, and they are coming across poorly in their interaction with HEM!

I’m unsure if it is personality or not at this point, if I am honest but Espe keeps choosing to take the worst faith interpretations and assumptions!

[Peregrine]

I feel as if Owl and Espe are going after angles that make sense together as a team but if nothing else there is one mafia in there and currently I do not know if I would vote anywhere else! Which may be a necessity if these reads are correct and the general feeling of the gamestate leaving them in danger!

[Peregrine]

And while it may be quantifiable by votes I do not get the sense either that HEM is a top mafia read as people do not seem to be engaging with that line of thought as much as I would expect!! I genuinely do not see where HEM’s questioning this game though has been an attempt to control as their engagements seem standard fare interrogation to me!!!

[Peregrine]

Smaller thoughts are that I think Sheep and Hu Tao are town right now, Drew is probably town, Dunnstral is somewhat towny, Nurse is still town, and I think that if I am correct in my reads even partially the remaining mafia are found in Not_Mafia/Bella/Dragons, if only because my current take is that the active mafia are trying to push back on the people suspecting them with the final mafia just… around?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I will vote between {Espeonage, Doctor Drew, Hu Tao, and Night Owl}. My priority is Espe, a tie between Drew and Hu Tao, and Night Owl only if no one has the appetite for the three.

I'll be waiting for Bella's replacement, StD's return, and Dunnstral's input. I want to know where they are in this.