Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Doctor Drew]

They were town in both, as was I.

Ausuka was in second linked game, town I believe? I didn't even look to confirm lol. FB was scum in that game though(the second linked one).

I don't believe anyone alive here was in the first game.

[Ausuka]

Osuka isn't 'as' clear of a read for me. It is based off vibes from previous games where they seemed way more aggressive. It really wasn't until the back and forth got going with Bingle didn't come out, but seemed a bit manufactured. I mentioned I this Ausuka has a high probability of being scum as well, this is partly because they were in the first game I was with Osuka and they keep saying they are just as, or more aggressive here, something isn't jiving there.

I don't think I have the previous experience with Osuka to say for sure but I felt like Osuka was pretty dang aggro out of the gate with 120 and 134

That's the thing, that is Osuka holding back. You are kinda seeing some of the real aggression come out now with the back and forth with Bingle.....but even that feels performative.

Also fuck you Bingle you piece of human garbage.....see? Totally not trying to buddy them lol.

I keep saying it, I just never saw what other people saw in Bingle. Plus he is part of the Whiskey Pocket, though so is Umlaut and I am feeling more wary of them as days go by.

Ausuka, I don't change my reads for the sake of changing them, you can call it stagnant, but if nothing causes me to change them why would I. That being said here is a nice 180 for you(or maybe a 90 lol), your reads list does read pretty towny and your fleshed out read on me is kinda how my game goes, so there is that.

Is it? I mean like my memory of the game you're talking about is vague, but iirc he started flaming when people started trying to lim him on d2 or whatever, and most of his play in that game is broadly similar to here. That doesn't make him town, I just didn't get what you were talking about. Also like, I think holding someone to a standard of "you have to insult people a lot and call everyone a big stinky idiot or you're scum" is kind of lame and incentivizes behaviour which makes the game less fun

I don't expect you to change your reads for no reason but usually people's reads just change over time naturally with new posts and new evidence. I guess you've been doing that more recently

[Doctor Drew]

Osuka isn't 'as' clear of a read for me. It is based off vibes from previous games where they seemed way more aggressive. It really wasn't until the back and forth got going with Bingle didn't come out, but seemed a bit manufactured. I mentioned I this Ausuka has a high probability of being scum as well, this is partly because they were in the first game I was with Osuka and they keep saying they are just as, or more aggressive here, something isn't jiving there.

I don't think I have the previous experience with Osuka to say for sure but I felt like Osuka was pretty dang aggro out of the gate with 120 and 134

That's the thing, that is Osuka holding back. You are kinda seeing some of the real aggression come out now with the back and forth with Bingle.....but even that feels performative.

Also fuck you Bingle you piece of human garbage.....see? Totally not trying to buddy them lol.

I keep saying it, I just never saw what other people saw in Bingle. Plus he is part of the Whiskey Pocket, though so is Umlaut and I am feeling more wary of them as days go by.

Ausuka, I don't change my reads for the sake of changing them, you can call it stagnant, but if nothing causes me to change them why would I. That being said here is a nice 180 for you(or maybe a 90 lol), your reads list does read pretty towny and your fleshed out read on me is kinda how my game goes, so there is that.

Is it? I mean like my memory of the game you're talking about is vague, but iirc he started flaming when people started trying to lim him on d2 or whatever, and most of his play in that game is broadly similar to here. That doesn't make him town, I just didn't get what you were talking about. Also like, I think holding someone to a standard of "you have to insult people a lot and call everyone a big stinky idiot or you're scum" is kind of lame and incentivizes behaviour which makes the game less fun

I don't expect you to change your reads for no reason but usually people's reads just change over time naturally with new posts and new evidence. I guess you've been doing that more recently

I am not saying osuka should be a dick or I am gonna scum read him, I just felt he was holding back a bit here. Much in the same way people say I am tighter when I am scum, I kinda get there could be a similar vibe with Osuka.

I fully realize I could be projecting my own self meta on him though.

[Invisibility]

what posts made you feel like he was holding back?

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: umlaut

[Donempire]

Reveal as the IC

No point in laying low since maf can find me at night now.

Whisper roles to me xd

[Datisi]

fun fact:

Donempire is mod-confirmed to be aligned with the

town

.

[osuka]

this is a dumb conversation that will lead nowhere so i'll lay it out for everyone here: yes i was holding back, no it isn't theater, no it's not alignment indicative, yes it's just me getting tilted when i have to go through pages' worth of dumb shit

i try not to get tilted but sometimes it gets the better of me. i don't want to flame people and, contrary to popular belief, that's not my default behavior and i'm not actually an ass. i'm just eloquently explaining how and why a given take/opinion/post is stupid. that's all it is

[osuka]

like i don't actually get into a game and think to myself "man what a great day to go off on a random person", like i only really do it if they say really dumb shit repeatedly or if they say it and then double down and dig their heels in. otherwise i'll just say it and fuck off for the most part

i try not to get completely off the rails immediately, if that makes any sense

[osuka]

VOTE: umlaut

explain?

[osuka]

also - not that this really matters but what the fuck? that's a very very strange time to reveal yourself as ic. i don't know why you would do that. there's not even any votes on you, unless i'm just not paying enough attention to the votecounts

[Donempire]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

[Doctor Drew]

this is a dumb conversation that will lead nowhere so i'll lay it out for everyone here: yes i was holding back, no it isn't theater, no it's not alignment indicative, yes it's just me getting tilted when i have to go through pages' worth of dumb shit

i try not to get tilted but sometimes it gets the better of me. i don't want to flame people and, contrary to popular belief, that's not my default behavior and i'm not actually an ass. i'm just eloquently explaining how and why a given take/opinion/post is stupid. that's all it is

[Donempire]

Rat should be town

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

[Doctor Drew]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

But like Osuka said, you were basically under no real danger here. Even if scum found you tonight, still would be another night before you were killed.

And you are doing it because you have the hubris to be that confident in your hero play on FB?

[Radical Rat]

Does it matter why? What's done is done, and what's Don is Town. There's no real reason to interrogate this right now

[Doctor Drew]

Does it matter why? What's done is done, and what's Don is Town. There's no real reason to interrogate this right now

Touche.

But Don this is why East Coast is better.

[Donempire]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

But like Osuka said, you were basically under no real danger here. Even if scum found you tonight, still would be another night before you were killed.

And you are doing it because you have the hubris to be that confident in your hero play on FB?

Not because of that. Anyone who knows me knows i don't just ego, i just go for whatevers most optimal. Also, the second scenario of me living at least another day doesn't take into account the possibility maf found me today already - i wasn't exactly townread yesterday and it's not a low probability they checked me yesterday.

What i did here is just streamline the game further, so precious time isn't wasted on dwelling on my alignment. I was going to get night killed one way or another, and it doesn't hurt to reveal today instead of tomorrow. I'm not a powerrole, i don't get info at night.

[Donempire]

Does it matter why? What's done is done, and what's Don is Town. There's no real reason to interrogate this right now

Touche.

But Don this is why East Coast is better.

You win some you lose some. At least cali doesn't have more rats than people

[Radical Rat]

I take offense to that

[Doctor Drew]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

But like Osuka said, you were basically under no real danger here. Even if scum found you tonight, still would be another night before you were killed.

And you are doing it because you have the hubris to be that confident in your hero play on FB?

Not because of that. Anyone who knows me knows i don't just ego, i just go for whatevers most optimal. Also, the second scenario of me living at least another day doesn't take into account the possibility maf found me today already - i wasn't exactly townread yesterday and it's not a low probability they checked me yesterday.

What i did here is just streamline the game further, so precious time isn't wasted on dwelling on my alignment. I was going to get night killed one way or another, and it doesn't hurt to reveal today instead of tomorrow. I'm not a powerrole, i don't get info at night.

Ok fair enough.

But why FB?

[Doctor Drew]

I take offense to that

Post of the game award right here.

[Donempire]

Ok fair enough.

But why FB?

I generally dislike his playstyle of pushing people or points and then reverting to making fun of people who try to have a discussion about it, re 720. This playstyle is not only unhelpful but also helps him avoid getting pressed on most of his points as he just acts sarcastically if pressured, basically removing accountability from his posts. So you might consider this as a kind of policy lim as well, but i do think some of his posts like 700 are just scum mindset regardless.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok fair enough.

But why FB?

I generally dislike his playstyle of pushing people or points and then reverting to making fun of people who try to have a discussion about it, re 720. This playstyle is not only unhelpful but also helps him avoid getting pressed on most of his points as he just acts sarcastically if pressured, basically removing accountability from his posts. So you might consider this as a kind of policy lim as well, but i do think some of his posts like 700 are just scum mindset regardless.

Do you have experience with FB?